Been Overlooking Something On THF

I recently capped my EVA on my 90THF @ 361.

361 + 8/8 merits so I am sitting at 377 EVA Skill.

I have like 8 EVA on my TP set so I TP in 385 EVA.

As I am looking through my traits, i am remembering that THF has a built in EVA bonus... Reports are that the EVA bonus is +60 @ 90???

So if that is true, is that already included or am I TPing in 445EVA?

That is not included, but I'm not sure what the conversion of evasion to evasion skill is.

But yes, you have more than 385 evasion. THFs are squirrelly :P

Everything I have read states that +1 eva is very very close to +1 eva skill

How do u have 8 eva merits is this something new I didn't know about? I swear u can olny put 4 in but I could be crazy wrong

Eva should be floored on most mobs if you have capped skill and merits

4/4 ~

The Wiki lists job traits as mirroring "Accuracy Bonus" i think. So it goes up wonky.

Though i don't recall any tests being done on it, What with the nature of testing evasion sucking.

Sorry - Its 4/4 ~ Just was doing too many different things at once and didn't catch my mistake there on the Merits.

So 361 base EVA @ 90THF
8 merits (4/4)
50 worst case JT (Reports go up to 60 @ .9 = 54 skill)
30 on gear (30 @ .9 = 27skill)

So I guess that would put me 361+8+50+27=446 worst case scenario ~ Throw on C&D in abyssea and your nearly 500EVA on THF. Should be fine to lower almost all mobs to 20% I would assume.

or is that overkill???

You don't even need C&D so badly if you have a well built eva set. I believe you can switch to GH for the AGI and extra Crit rate

^ works on most mobs. RR/GH/Apoc can keep your Evasion solid on almost anything. What it doesnt, a good EVA set fills in the rest.

My EVA set is +50EVA

I'm guessing we have a pretty similar Eva build then. Here's mine:



The first major upgrade that comes to mind is an AGI Kila. I offhand Auric once TH lands with THF's Knife so I can benefit from the extra SB which I've fallen in love with once I realized how good it is when stacked.

Eventually, when I'll get back in game I'll probably start working my way on something like this:



Auric dagger will need to go.

Edit: Btw, last time I checked debates over Evasion skill VS Evasion some tests were brought out and reported Skill losing to pure Evasion past the 200 level mark.

It wouldn't be too surprising if Evasion skill worked just like any other combat skill and granted less than 1 past the 200 mark. If I remember correctly then, evasion skill grants 0.9 Evasion.

I wouldn't go for a full pure Evasion build though, as I believe an increase in the base skill level also affects the cap on the amount of pure evasion that can be added. This last setence falls into the "Eyeballing" standard though, so don't take it for granted.

Evasion bonus jt is equal to evasion in gear as far as i know. Oh, and you can also add another 100ish evasion on top of that number due agi~

tanking in my tp gear, using AoA/GH/RR works just fine for me on most things

most i do is put an eva kila in there sometimes >:


this is what i use as my normal eva gear
would use torero torque in it if i had one ~.~


and this is my ohshitomgwtf eva gear <.< x2 eva kila
sold eva torque and scouters rope :O
would love to get a torero torque and fugacity beret tho ~.~ and that mantle maybe

also /wave garka D: idk why i'm always thinking i should know you :S

ya knwo i still cant figure out if it better to tp in full af3+2 or to have lokis on and or balerines and ocelot gloves instead. Same goes for how much af3+2 to be switching in and out for sa/ta and wses. Basicly where line between a dot job or a ws job.

Edit: also which dagger combo best baring trials ones.

There was some discussion going on lately on what would be the best TP set for a DD THF and I think this was pretty much the result. If not the best setup, it offers nice stats while holding as much AF3+2 as possible without losing loads of Haste.



For SA and TA you shouldn't really hold your hopes on AF3+2 to proc so it's best to gear according to the DEX and AGI bonuses.
Same thing for WS, don't hold onto AF3+2 to hope for the Additional effect to proc. Loki and Ocelot items are nice, but not great for TP.

Edit: The whole point on the above set was regarding the bonus granted by Nusku's Sash over a Haste belt when you can cap haste with both.

For more AF3+2 you could always go for a set like this, which is the most common Haste cap / DD build:




or even this:



if you happenned to be using Atma of the Omnipotent (DEX Superior:50 - Haste+ Superior:10% - Enmity+ Minor:?).

This is my EVA set, can add lots more but i find this is more than enough for most things.

To drunk to post my EVA set.. (Its on my item sets) But 4/4 EVA and capped EVA Skill. With 2 EVA Atmas you can pretty much hold anything you want even outside of abyssea with any healer or duo/solo it. THF is God.

FTFY

mh idk i guess in the end its all about personal preference >:


this set has the lowest attack/accuracy, 5% dual wield more than the other two, but its not true haste cap and its kinda expensive


this has the highest acc/att of all 3, most af3 pieces, 2% double att more that the first set and 26% haste


this is a little more like a tanking/tp set
not true haste cap like the first, could either use dagger or neck to cap it ( i use dagger cause i'm cheap >.>)

the omnipotent set idk if its worth trading GH for it :S tho i guess it would give some nice numbers for rudra's storm w

on topic : i'm wondering wtf you guys are tanking with 2 eva atmas and a full eva set @_@

He did say he was pretty drunk ;P

The set meant for Atma of the Omnipotent was mostly for a DD THF. You do sacrifice the straight 20% Crit rate from GH, but 50 DEX can compensate for that a bit

yeh and i'm pretty tired ><

Tell me about it.. I've been trying to fall asleep or the past 4 hours .. :(

And the alarm rings in 3 hours

meh i wish i had a working parser to test stuff like that omnipotent set vs gnarled horn >: tho i dont have that 2. set to test anyway ><

mrr i didnt sleep all night lol not much to do today thank god ~.~

Sleep some for me then, will ya? :P

Inb4 u find out all sets are crap cause u got to much double attack in them.

According to new data if DA and TA proc on the same swing they cancel each other out wich isnt a big issue outside abyssea but its kinda crap inside where u have high amounts of TA due to apoc or A&O.
But since its not 100% sure yet i think all of the above sets are ok^^

Edit: kunda off topic i guess but meh

this is what i use when i eva tank i really dont have any eva hands or waist and i most of the time even have my thief knife on cuz it seems that we all want that TH =D

This is the second time someone mentions that but I still can't seem to get it right.

Are you saying that if you proc a Triple Attack during an Attack round you can't proc a Double Attack on that very same attack round and vice versa?
If so, I don't see how it could be so "bad" as long as you get either of the two during an attack round.
If, aside from this new data, TA has priority over DA, then it'd meand that unless you proc a TA you can STILL proc a DA, right?

I'm just really tired today so please bare with me for asking this.