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Realistic time for getting a relic?
By Wafflechan 2011-03-21 20:57:41
I hear it's like a traumatizing amount of time and money, but like, is it really that bad these days with being 90 and having us a decent shell? Is dyanamis really that much of a drain on ones finances? Will it really take months? And do you think these dyna overhauls coming from SE will make it easier?
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By Fenrir.Enternius 2011-03-21 20:59:21
Should wait until they implement the thing that gets rid of Hourglasses. I'm sure currency will drop in price quite a bit.
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2011-03-21 21:00:19
As it stands now, unless you're INSANELY lucky in dynamis. It'll take you Months of dynamis if all you're going for is currency (not buying currency outside of dynamis) If you have people willing to do that for you, then great. But depending on weapon, it'll take you a decent amount of time.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-03-21 21:02:16
If you have a lot of money, doesn't take long at all. If you're planning on straight up doing dyna for most of your coins, 300 coins a run is about reasonable. Can do 2 runs a week (looking at now, not when they update it cause they were also adjusting drop rate so yea idk how it will be then).
600 coins a week.
Need like what? 15,000 coins (if getting a loan for the last 3k).
25 weeks, roughly half a year if you're not buying coins on your own.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Elysien 2011-03-21 21:02:26
Probably 2-3 months if you got a steady gil income and go twice a week. Problem is finding currency and finding people to actually attend dynamis reliably. This update will definitely make it easier due to more supply, and much cheaper since you can just go w/ a group of friends everyday and not having to actually buy currency or glasses.
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By Bismarck.Octaviusc 2011-03-21 21:02:54
Took me years, not months but then again I funded my own relic. Months would be assuming you have a shell that allows you to sponsor and you get all currency. Sure that's a possibility but unless you are in an established shell already it will take much longer....remember this isn't abyssea.
I'd also wait until the changes take place to decide if this is something you still want to pursue. GL with whatever you decide.
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By Gezira 2011-03-21 21:03:04
Sell alot of things to alot of people that are really easy to get with small amount of effort for alot of gill and buy alot of currency to get a relic really fast.
Edit: but beware my advice cause I lack the interest / motivation / commitment to actually do what i said.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-21 21:04:11
something something lolrelics
Anyway, currency isn't going to plummet in price. Every time they've increased the availability of currency prices actually rose due to a greater increase in demand, eventually settling back as they were or slightly higher. I foresee a lot of people trying to obtain a relic after this update and SE said they'd be adjusting currency droprates to more or less maintain the current influx iirc so don't hold your breath for prices to plummet.
As for having a shell to fund you a relic, well... if you can actually find people who are willing to get you a relic for basically nothing then I'd imagine you're well on your way already. I don't know how long it'd take, probably no more than a couple months if you spammed cities.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-21 21:05:20
Bismarck.Octaviusc said: Took me years, not months but then again I funded my own relic. Months would be assuming you have a shell that allows you to sponsor and you get all currency. Sure that's a possibility but unless you are not in an established shell already it will take much longer....remember this isn't abyssea.
I'd also wait until the changes take place to decide if this is something you still want to pursue. GL with whatever you decide. Who says you can't self-fund a relic in under a year? lol
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By Wafflechan 2011-03-21 21:06:11
Phoenix.Uzugami said: As it stands now, unless you're INSANELY lucky in dynamis. It'll take you Months of dynamis if all you're going for is currency (not buying currency outside of dynamis) If you have people willing to do that for you, then great. But depending on weapon, it'll take you a decent amount of time. Phoenix.Uzugami said: As it stands now, unless you're INSANELY lucky in dynamis. It'll take you Months of dynamis if all you're going for is currency (not buying currency outside of dynamis) If you have people willing to do that for you, then great. But depending on weapon, it'll take you a decent amount of time. I was looking to do Gugnir, when you say depending on the weapon, are some way easier than others?
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By Fenrir.Jmr 2011-03-21 21:08:18
Especially if your a fisherman, since they now have 10k NPCable fish.
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By Bismarck.Octaviusc 2011-03-21 21:08:30
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Bismarck.Octaviusc said: Took me years, not months but then again I funded my own relic. Months would be assuming you have a shell that allows you to sponsor and you get all currency. Sure that's a possibility but unless you are not in an established shell already it will take much longer....remember this isn't abyssea.
I'd also wait until the changes take place to decide if this is something you still want to pursue. GL with whatever you decide. Who says you can't self-fund a relic in under a year? lol
You assume it would only take a couple of months, do you know how much currency you'd have to accumulate in this time? I was not as fortunate as some of my friends that did one but I'm speaking from my experience. Everyone is different, don't tell the guy it will only take a few months and then have him fall short and lose millions of gil in the process.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Elysien 2011-03-21 21:08:46
Wafflechan said: Phoenix.Uzugami said: As it stands now, unless you're INSANELY lucky in dynamis. It'll take you Months of dynamis if all you're going for is currency (not buying currency outside of dynamis) If you have people willing to do that for you, then great. But depending on weapon, it'll take you a decent amount of time. Phoenix.Uzugami said: As it stands now, unless you're INSANELY lucky in dynamis. It'll take you Months of dynamis if all you're going for is currency (not buying currency outside of dynamis) If you have people willing to do that for you, then great. But depending on weapon, it'll take you a decent amount of time. I was looking to do Gugnir, when you say depending on the weapon, are some way easier than others?
Yes, ie spharai's last stage is bynes, which is way cheaper than relics needing shells or coins.
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By Valefor.Worlace 2011-03-21 21:10:12
If you're funding your own, this was the easiest method for me. I set a goal of how much gil I wanted to make per week or per day for that matter, and went for that (mine was 6m/week). If your primary goal is to build a relic, then you should have no problem reaching these.
Depending on prices and the relic you could get it done within 6 months. That's all a thing of the past now though with new update
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2011-03-21 21:10:46
Phoenix.Uzugami said: As it stands now, unless you're INSANELY lucky in dynamis. It'll take you Months of dynamis if all you're going for is currency (not buying currency outside of dynamis) If you have people willing to do that for you, then great. But depending on weapon, it'll take you a decent amount of time. I was looking to do Gugnir, when you say depending on the weapon, are some way easier than others?[/quote]
Weapons like Bravura (Uses 10,000 byne to finish) are easier to "finish" than weapons like, Amano or something partly due to Silverpieces being more costly. *Note: Assuming you have people willing to do your weapon for you, It would be easier (imo) to spam sandy for silverpiece -> Sell those -> Buy the bynes. But that's just my opinion. lol
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-21 21:12:07
Bismarck.Octaviusc said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Bismarck.Octaviusc said: Took me years, not months but then again I funded my own relic. Months would be assuming you have a shell that allows you to sponsor and you get all currency. Sure that's a possibility but unless you are not in an established shell already it will take much longer....remember this isn't abyssea.
I'd also wait until the changes take place to decide if this is something you still want to pursue. GL with whatever you decide. Who says you can't self-fund a relic in under a year? lol
You assume it would only take a couple of months, do you know how much currency you'd have to accumulate in this time? I was not as fortunate as some of my friends that did one but I'm speaking from my experience. Everyone is different, don't tell the guy it will only take a few months and then have him fall short and lose millions of gil in the process. Holy ***, reading comprehension.
I didn't assume self-funding a relic would take a couple months. That was an estimate for city farming and buying more currency with your own gil. I didn't tell him it would only take a few months, only that it could be done in that timeframe. You made it sound like self-funding has to take a year+ when in reality I've seen people build relics start to finish in 6-8 months with no help from a Dyna shell.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-03-21 21:12:24
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Anyway, currency isn't going to plummet in price. Every time they've increased the availability of currency prices actually rose due to a greater increase in demand.
Not entirely the same, but ABC prices decreased on Bismarck after the change in limbus entry prices.
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By Bahamut.Phix 2011-03-21 21:12:32
Wafflechan said: Phoenix.Uzugami said: As it stands now, unless you're INSANELY lucky in dynamis. It'll take you Months of dynamis if all you're going for is currency (not buying currency outside of dynamis) If you have people willing to do that for you, then great. But depending on weapon, it'll take you a decent amount of time. Phoenix.Uzugami said: As it stands now, unless you're INSANELY lucky in dynamis. It'll take you Months of dynamis if all you're going for is currency (not buying currency outside of dynamis) If you have people willing to do that for you, then great. But depending on weapon, it'll take you a decent amount of time. I was looking to do Gugnir, when you say depending on the weapon, are some way easier than others? Why gungnir :S
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-21 21:16:30
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By Bahamut.Phix 2011-03-21 21:17:15
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: SHOCK SPIKES Oh ***son how could i forget thats PRO
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2011-03-21 21:18:46
On another note, gl with relics lol. I got to stage4 only to have people *** about me doing a relic in our ls because they thought their ruby ring wearing monk deserved relic h2h lol lost about 20mil in upgrading after I said *** it and sold my bynes :/ (Point: don't upgrade till your sure you're gonna finish! XD)
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By Wafflechan 2011-03-21 21:20:40
Bahamut.Phix said: Why gungnir :S Becauseeee the best drg on my server uses the 90 one, and does scary ridiculous damage?! Why not get one :V.
By Serj 2011-03-21 21:22:46
Bahamut.Phix said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: SHOCK SPIKES Oh ***son how could i forget thats PRO
They do 50 damage and stun at 100% for 5 seconds, brah. I read it on wiki; it must be true.
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By Bahamut.Phix 2011-03-21 21:22:59
Wafflechan said: Bahamut.Phix said: Why gungnir :S Becauseeee the best drg on my server uses the 90 one, and does scary ridiculous damage?! Why not get one :V. Who? and in all honesty its not very good do idk oat pole if money is an issue or suck it up and do the mythic :S
By Wafflechan 2011-03-21 21:29:38
Bahamut.Phix said: Wafflechan said: Bahamut.Phix said: Why gungnir :S Becauseeee the best drg on my server uses the 90 one, and does scary ridiculous damage?! Why not get one :V. Who? and in all honesty its not very good do idk oat pole if money is an issue or suck it up and do the mythic :S Dude's named Olfar, he is a hero amongst drg on Asura.
By Serj 2011-03-21 21:31:20
Bahamut.Phix said: Wafflechan said: Bahamut.Phix said: Why gungnir :S Becauseeee the best drg on my server uses the 90 one, and does scary ridiculous damage?! Why not get one :V. Who? and in all honesty its not very good do idk oat pole if money is an issue or suck it up and do the mythic :S
I think OAT is better than relic..
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2011-03-21 21:32:19
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: something something lolrelics
Anyway, currency isn't going to plummet in price. Every time they've increased the availability of currency prices actually rose due to a greater increase in demand, eventually settling back as they were or slightly higher. I foresee a lot of people trying to obtain a relic after this update and SE said they'd be adjusting currency droprates to more or less maintain the current influx iirc so don't hold your breath for prices to plummet.
As for having a shell to fund you a relic, well... if you can actually find people who are willing to get you a relic for basically nothing then I'd imagine you're well on your way already. I don't know how long it'd take, probably no more than a couple months if you spammed cities.
Honestly, even if they adjust (lower) droprates on currency, the influx into Dynamis will be so great, the prices will stay the same, if not plummet (specifically bynes, and possibly coins). Remember it's going from a 3 day event to a once-a-day event with TE revisions (ala Abyssea most likely). That's a ton of potential time in Dynamis.
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By Lakshmi.Aeyela 2011-03-21 21:32:29
Wrong thread, /facepalm.
By lordriku 2011-03-21 21:34:45
Not to sound like a troll or anything but if you like drg do mythic, relic polearm is one of the lamest relics.
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By Bismarck.Samusaki 2011-03-21 21:35:15
You need to look at all factors on building the weapon. First you need to find the gil to straight up by coins or members to help with the zones. Since AF gear isn't worth much anymore, it's gonna be tricky finding enough people to help you clear and spam Sandy so you can collect the coins for free just because they like you. Most people are thinking, what's in it for me.
So with that said, in a numbers scenario if you spammed the cities twice a week and all coins were kept by you, it would take about 7 months if your coin count averaged 300 per run. (6 months if you find someone to bum the 30 last 100 pieces from) Even with levels being at 90, you still need 7-10 people. That is unless you got yourself some decent players, which we all know that will rarely happen, I've heard of shells wiping with an alliance of 18 even in Bastok, because people didn't know what they were doing. Then you still need to think about the attestations and fragments.
It's still a large task trying to manage your shell, make sure everyone is happy and that you have the skills to pull zones and keep things running smoothly.
PS hey Oct!! Miss ya! Gonna do some Beaucidine when we get back online for your clear. Go Go 90 Amano! :-)
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I hear it's like a traumatizing amount of time and money, but like, is it really that bad these days with being 90 and having us a decent shell? Is dyanamis really that much of a drain on ones finances? Will it really take months? And do you think these dyna overhauls coming from SE will make it easier?
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