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Charged Whisker
Ragnarok.Arcalimo
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By Ragnarok.Arcalimo 2012-02-07 12:37:16
BH-RR- Lion best set up. Dex will give more out put than MaB or Int. Average 1 shot w/ 7k whiskers on most any mob EP or DC. Check profile to see gear sets have CW set listed. I clicked to see your item sets and all I see is a really shitty/typical JP TP gearset. Are the rest hidden, or is this what you were referring to?
The day he posted that he was wearing his CW set so it did appear on his profile.
Not sure if he meant that, i couldn't see anything on his item sets either.
Bahamut.Glizdus
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By Bahamut.Glizdus 2012-02-16 03:11:59
i'm at the point of gathering set for CW.
farmed atmas atm too. got lion yesterday.
so you guys suggesting to go fully on DEX+?
i saw many different builds. also with INT+
if i go DEX+ atmas setup: ultimate, rr, lion?
why not BH instead of lion?
got access to lion, mm, ultimate, rr so far.
waiting on your answer before i get broke on stuff which i won't use :)
Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-02-16 03:19:04
Lion, Blinding Horn and Ultimate are the best set of atmas, I think.
Personally just not to mess up my "recently used" atma list, I just use Ultimate, Lion and MM.
My set is'nt perfect either:
But as long as I use 1 whirl of rage, pretty much any pull dies from that + CW.
Bahamut.Glizdus
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By Bahamut.Glizdus 2012-02-16 03:54:19
ok. thnx.
what are best places to start?
some mobs are more resistant to magic i think.
i've tried la theine on frogs.
w/o gear swaps, w/o atmas.
nearly died to two frogs ;)
by then at least i got better atmas (lion and ultimate)
i wonder if i can solo BH on NIN/DNC with this equip:
all red staggers available but club (had to go /war but will loose stun)
capped EVA+merits+9 AGI merits. can get a new eva torque and boxer's mantle if needed.
and i wonder if it's possible to dodge Lighttning Spear by moving to the side of NM like it was possible on Dark Ixion.
Bahamut.Glizdus
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By Bahamut.Glizdus 2012-02-16 05:45:36
lol just got my first attempt on BLU/RDM with some gear dex+int+mab that i had in MH + atma of lion, ultimate, rr.
bougth only Jupiter's staff :)
half of my MP was gone on buffs xD
pulled two detectors > whirl (one detector got hit for 677, second resisted) > dream flower > enervation > planilune embrance > CW > BAM! both got hit for 2800 dmg xD
MP left for Sheep song and Run away! xD
didn't used Efflux nor Chain Affinity.
i'm too weak lol.
Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-02-16 05:51:26
well, why on earth would you use wlegs, atheling mantle, af gloves, spirit torque and twilight belt in CW set? :p
Basicly I don't think it's possible to do well without gearswaps, atleast not alone.
Also remember to switch to a sword for whirl, as it's based on your melee acc, and you have really low accuracy with a staff.
Edit:
Also, another reason I love MM is the refresh, makes me able to keep going for ages even without lots of 2hr chests (like when I do trials and cba to cap lights first)
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-02-16 06:21:21
Best whisker set going at the moment, right?
I even logged in to find out the name of that belt too xD
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By Hnic 2012-02-16 06:22:35
Check out this link for gear choices, also you can check out this forum link where CW discussion is pretty informative;
CW Setup Forum
Best possible CW Gear set
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Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-02-16 06:25:24
Best whisker set going at the moment, right?
I even logged in to find out the name of that belt too xD
That looks pretty much top-notch yeah
Not quite sure about strendu vs a second thundersoul when BA is up
If there are any improvements, they are'nt huge, atleast.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-02-16 06:28:40
Sound, I'm actually using the same set you posted though lol
Ofcourse I was cheap and bought an NQ ocelomeh head :<
Ramuh.Lorzy
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2012-02-16 06:33:08
lol just got my first attempt on BLU/RDM with some gear dex+int+mab that i had in MH + atma of lion, ultimate, rr.
bougth only Jupiter's staff :)
half of my MP was gone on buffs xD
pulled two detectors > whirl (one detector got hit for 677, second resisted) > dream flower > enervation > planilune embrance > CW > BAM! both got hit for 2800 dmg xD
MP left for Sheep song and Run away! xD
didn't used Efflux nor Chain Affinity.
i'm too weak lol. use ba, can probably get a deceit mask for cheap, teal saio, teal slops or af3 or wlegs work with mab augment, nifty mantle, you can get a free jupiter's ring from a quest, warwolf belt, artemis medal. get af3 hands/legs/feet upgraded, especially feet.
Bahamut.Glizdus
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By Bahamut.Glizdus 2012-02-16 07:00:02
well, why on earth would you use wlegs, atheling mantle, af gloves, spirit torque and twilight belt in CW set? :p
as i said. i went whit gear i've found in MH xD
bought only staff ;]
i knowm that ineed to work on gear :)
thnx for fast respond :)
Bahamut.Dannyl
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By Bahamut.Dannyl 2012-02-16 11:40:04
"pretty informative"? 6 posts vs 16 pages of posts here....
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By Odin.Tashan 2012-02-16 11:53:26
Bahamut.Glizdus
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By Bahamut.Glizdus 2012-02-17 02:50:10
did some tweaking to my gear:
i'm working on feet atm. with 2 box NIN+WHM got 3 WHM seals, 1 DRK and 1 BLU out of 4 bomb kills. with yellow up 1 WHM dropped.
can't believe how lucky i am ;)
with ascetic's tonic + bust affinity + memnto + planilune and enervation on mobs was able to pull 4 800dmg. had to resleep and finish with thunderbolt.
still need to speed up things, cos MAD debuff wears before i'm able to cast sleep + nuke.
used lion / ultimate / mm atma. working on BH.
what you guys think about replacing Teal saio with this:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/10453/praeco-doublet
Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-02-17 03:13:44
Depending on which mobs you'r pulling, 4800 dmg should be enough dmg that you easily can finish them off with CA whirl(just remember to switch to a sword)
I think Teal is better then praeco, but Loki's kaftan is probably better than both, as long as you have BA on.
If you'r ever in doubt about using INT or DEX gear, I think 1 dex and 1 int are pretty much equal, but with BA active, the DEX value doubles.
Can keep that in mind when you upgrade your gear
Shiva.Galbir
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By Shiva.Galbir 2012-02-17 03:21:44
1 DEX is worth about 5 INT with Burst Affinity and Mavi Basmak +2
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Bahamut.Glizdus
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By Bahamut.Glizdus 2012-02-17 03:29:23
Loki's is out of my reach i'm afraid. too many ppl from LS wanted it. and damn thing won't drop even if we kill Turul.
Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-02-17 03:42:03
1 DEX is worth about 5 INT with Burst Affinity and Mavi Basmak +2
How much is the boost on +2s exactly?
Wikis only have info on +1s <_>
Valefor.Kermit
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By Valefor.Kermit 2012-02-19 22:22:21
Say you didnt have ultimate but you had hell's guardian, any difference in whisker damage?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-02-19 22:23:48
They have exactly the same amount of MAB.
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By Carbuncle.Omgwheresmyname 2012-04-01 22:54:54
Im stuck in tech school right now not being able to play!! This is killing me reading all of your comments but not being able to participate/help >:|
lol I will finally be able to be back on in 5 days after a long long 9 weeks of BMT..
I'm so ready to play, and help out.. So if anyone is on carbuncle and need a sexy BLU mofo.. FIND MEEE
as you can see i'm having withdraws.. :P but can't wait to game with you guys again!
Ciao:)
ps- also if you need help with anything, gimme a pm or a shout whatever floats your boat. I believe i am experienced enough to hopefully give a strong reply.
Cerberus.Draupnir
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By Cerberus.Draupnir 2012-04-11 20:56:21
Is anyone having problems casting enervation, I pull all my mobs and go to cast the spell and get "You cannot attack that target" even if I have it claimed it still won't let me. Any ideas?
Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-04-11 21:13:19
If you use spellcast, it could be that your resources are messed up and it's auto correcting things all wrong. But that's a pretty rare issue with such an old spell.
Carbuncle.Grandthief
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By Carbuncle.Grandthief 2012-04-11 21:21:27
Yea, happenened with Fantod on BST also, when using Falcorr.
I forgot what you had to add to the macro though, in order to make it work. Can't make it through the menu, can just type it out or make a macro.
Maybe it was something like /raw /ma "spell" <t>
Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-04-11 21:26:02
it is but then your spellcast rules and sets won't work with it.
Just need to fix your resources "IF" that's the issue.
Can test by unloading spellcast or using the raw though.
Cerberus.Draupnir
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By Cerberus.Draupnir 2012-04-11 21:42:02
I do use sc so what would you do to fix that lol -.-;
Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-04-11 22:26:39
Try a cast with it spellcast unloaded. See if it works. If it does then you can attempt to update.
To update resources just type in //updateresources in the chatlog or open the console and type updateresources. As a note, your resources should be updated automatically everytime you log in.
There is also another file that may need to be updated but this one requires you to manually download it and save over it.
Think this is the latest one:
http://forums.windower.net/topic/20916-new-resources-method-out-for-testing
it goes in your windower plugins folder.
Cerberus.Draupnir
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By Cerberus.Draupnir 2012-04-12 01:33:35
Ok well back on the game unloaded spellcast could cast enervation w/o any issues, loaded it back up and same problem, did //updateresources and it did its usual thing but didn't add anything new, tried using spell again same problem. So I took that manual way and did that and still not working :/
Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-04-12 09:22:26
Hmm. perhaps your spellcast is doing something to it. Such as canceling the spell or something else weird.
Do you know how to get a debug log?
Just put this in your spellcast, you may have some of them but the only important one for this particular test is Debug="true"
Code <config
showgearswaps = "False"
showspellinfo = "False"
HideErrors="False"
Debug="True"/>
Once you place this portion in your XML then reload the xml in game using /sc r and then attempt to cast the spell.
After that you should have a debug log with your character's name in it(like this: debug_charname.log) that will appear in the spellcast folder.
If you can post the contents of that log file to a pastebin or in a spoiler or something then I can examine it to see if it's causing the issue.
This file basically displays every action spellcast goes through as it reads your incoming commands and then takes action based on your rules. You can use this to figure out where your sc is messing up and how it handles various rules.
So there's a taru BLU on my server that is hitting a group of detectors in Abyssea Altepa for 6K+ damage. He shots most of the group tho. However when I try it I can't get over 2.6K with my Charged Whisker. I can only use Beyond, Kirin & MM as my magic atmas so I don't know where I'm going wrong.
Here's my current Charged Whisker set
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