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Can Primeval Brew be dispelled?
Carbuncle.Asymptotic
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-01-02 20:13:13
I don't know if anyone has tried this against anything that dispels stuff.
Can mobs dispel our brew? That would be kind of awful.
Bahamut.Dasva
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-02 20:16:36
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: Can mobs dispel our brew? That would be kind of hilarous. ftfy.
And idk doubt it though
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By Titan.Darkwizardzin 2011-01-02 20:22:30
Im 90% sure they wouldn't make it so that an item that costs 2 mil in curer (or used to anyway) could be dispelled by monsters. That would just be stupid.
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By Sylph.Skinner 2011-01-02 20:37:19
I'm pretty sure you'd straight up resist dispel. If dispel was an add effect from a TP move, you'd probably resist it too.
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Bahamut.Aeronis
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-01-02 20:38:09
Assuming it works the same way as RR.
Bahamut.Zoltar
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By Bahamut.Zoltar 2011-01-03 08:01:00
Someone on the server told me they paid a RDM to chainspell brew Rani and Rani's first spell was dispel which only took off chainspell. The RDM managed to screw it up still
Fenrir.Krazyrs
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By Fenrir.Krazyrs 2011-01-03 08:17:54
Bahamut.Zoltar said: Someone on the server told me they paid a RDM to chainspell brew Rani and Rani's first spell was dispel which only took off chainspell. The RDM managed to screw it up still
could be worse, para proc'd on my friend at shinryu fight when he went to brew, guess he was lucky it was only 200k crour and a stone
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-01-03 09:17:10
Fenrir.Krazyrs said: Bahamut.Zoltar said: Someone on the server told me they paid a RDM to chainspell brew Rani and Rani's first spell was dispel which only took off chainspell. The RDM managed to screw it up still could be worse, para proc'd on my friend at shinryu fight when he went to brew, guess he was lucky it was only 200k crour and a stone
O.O that sucks to no extent. I cant say I wouldnt be laughing my *** off it that happened to me. Thats worse than popping a brew and as soon as I get close enough to start weoponskilling Shin, the game starts to lag. So it looked like shin was just standing there, when really he was casting and tp moving. Lag stops, shin is at full with about 40 more seconds on the brew. /facepalm
And im gonna go with the resisting a dispel answer for the brew effect.
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By Asura.Kresaera 2011-01-03 09:18:27
Fenrir.Krazyrs said: Bahamut.Zoltar said: Someone on the server told me they paid a RDM to chainspell brew Rani and Rani's first spell was dispel which only took off chainspell. The RDM managed to screw it up still could be worse, para proc'd on my friend at shinryu fight when he went to brew, guess he was lucky it was only 200k crour and a stone
ouch! that sucks!
Bahamut.Zoltar
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By Bahamut.Zoltar 2011-01-03 09:57:11
I've only brewed Shin with THF (Aeolian Edge + Beyond/VV/Ultimate) for 8-12k minimum dmg and sometimes his hp appears to stay at 100% even though he's dead in 4-5 weaponskills. Much lag as well
Ragnarok.Kyoshin
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By Ragnarok.Kyoshin 2011-01-03 10:04:18
Bahamut.Zoltar said: I've only brewed Shin with THF (Aeolian Edge + Beyond/VV/Ultimate) for 8-12k minimum dmg and sometimes his hp appears to stay at 100% even though he's dead in 4-5 weaponskills. Much lag as well
From what I've seen of screenshots and videos, his HP bar doesn't lower at all. Even with TParty it won't show the HP %.
Bahamut.Dasva
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-03 10:08:02
Ragnarok.Kyoshin said: Bahamut.Zoltar said: I've only brewed Shin with THF (Aeolian Edge + Beyond/VV/Ultimate) for 8-12k minimum dmg and sometimes his hp appears to stay at 100% even though he's dead in 4-5 weaponskills. Much lag as well From what I've seen of screenshots and videos, his HP bar doesn't lower at all. Even with TParty it won't show the HP %. Sometimes it briefly shows during his tp moves.
Fenrir.Krazyrs said: Bahamut.Zoltar said: Someone on the server told me they paid a RDM to chainspell brew Rani and Rani's first spell was dispel which only took off chainspell. The RDM managed to screw it up still could be worse, para proc'd on my friend at shinryu fight when he went to brew, guess he was lucky it was only 200k crour and a stone ... And why would you brew after you engaged and got paralyzed?
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Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-01-03 10:09:11
Ragnarok.Kyoshin said: Bahamut.Zoltar said: I've only brewed Shin with THF (Aeolian Edge + Beyond/VV/Ultimate) for 8-12k minimum dmg and sometimes his hp appears to stay at 100% even though he's dead in 4-5 weaponskills. Much lag as well
From what I've seen of screenshots and videos, his HP bar doesn't lower at all. Even with TParty it won't show the HP %.
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Bahamut.Dasva
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-03 10:11:47
Who needs to know hp when you can just 2 shot it? ;)
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Lakshmi.Humie
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By Lakshmi.Humie 2011-01-03 10:15:54
I have seen glavoid absorb somones brew once it didnt end well
Ragnarok.Ashman
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-01-03 12:14:33
Lakshmi.Humie said: I have seen glavoid absorb somones brew once it didnt end well poidh
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Cerberus.Najla
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By Cerberus.Najla 2011-01-03 12:40:20
Ragnarok.Ashman said: Lakshmi.Humie said: I have seen glavoid absorb somones brew once it didnt end well poidh Yeah I'm not so sure about this, are you sure their brew didn't just wear off and they got pwned? A couple people in my ls have been working on their Glavoid shells and I have yet to see or hear about any of their brews being absorbed.
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-01-03 12:57:20
Cerberus.Kvazz said: Ragnarok.Kyoshin said: Bahamut.Zoltar said: I've only brewed Shin with THF (Aeolian Edge + Beyond/VV/Ultimate) for 8-12k minimum dmg and sometimes his hp appears to stay at 100% even though he's dead in 4-5 weaponskills. Much lag as well
From what I've seen of screenshots and videos, his HP bar doesn't lower at all. Even with TParty it won't show the HP %.
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Bismarck.Rinomaru
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-01-03 13:04:02
Dispelled dont think so
slept yes
para'd yes
slowed yes
doomed yes
death (maybe)
just personal experiences.
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Ragnarok.Ashman
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-01-03 13:25:34
I kept wanting to brew Smok but I worry about that terror :/
Bahamut.Dasva
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-03 13:27:40
Ragnarok.Ashman said: I kept wanting to brew Smok but I worry about that terror :/ Terror shield, or probably fools drink :). I'd love smoke atma though
Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2011-01-03 13:33:58
Bahamut.Zoltar said: Someone on the server told me they paid a RDM to chainspell brew Rani and Rani's first spell was dispel which only took off chainspell. The RDM managed to screw it up still
Can you kill Rani quick enough before she charms? Charm will work on someone with a brew.
Ragnarok.Ashman
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-01-03 13:43:24
Bahamut.Dasva said: Ragnarok.Ashman said: I kept wanting to brew Smok but I worry about that terror :/ Terror shield, or probably fools drink :). I'd love smoke atma though
Ugh, I have one in my inventory too. I buy out from the NPC when i buy doom screens for Shinryu.
Damnit I'm dumb today. Thanks Das!!!!
Bismarck.Rinomaru
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2011-01-03 13:50:27
Lakshmi.Flavin said: Bahamut.Zoltar said: Someone on the server told me they paid a RDM to chainspell brew Rani and Rani's first spell was dispel which only took off chainspell. The RDM managed to screw it up still
Can you kill Rani quick enough before she charms? Charm will work on someone with a brew. you CAN get charmed, his chance using JA are semi low not impossible.
Ninja's Yurin or mnk's penance helps.
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-01-03 13:51:46
You don't need terror screen, although it would save you a lot of trouble. I brewed it on my RDM mule who only has 200 elemental skill haha. He did get terrorized but the brew lasts for 3m and terror only lasts for about 30 seconds. Chainspell wore off but I popped a revit and killed it. This was back before terror screens were introduced so I didn't have that option. Smok doesn't have any regain either so if you're going sam you could probably kill it before it has enough tp to use a tp move.
Edit: In terms of Rani's charm, speed really doesn't have anything to do with whether you're getting charmed or not. Spells give the mob 10% tp, although this is probably reduced now with the agi update (maybe?). So you have about 10 brewed spells you can get off on Rani before she will use a tp move. Melee jobs would work the same way, it would just depend on the delay of the weapon you're using.
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By Bismarck.Pawnskipper 2011-01-03 13:55:46
Bismarck.Helel said: You don't need terror screen, although it would save you a lot of trouble. I brewed it on my RDM mule who only has 200 elemental skill haha. He did get terrorized but the brew lasts for 3m and terror only lasts for about 30 seconds. Chainspell wore off but I popped a revit and killed it. This was back before terror screens were introduced so I didn't have that option. Smok doesn't have any regain either so if you're going sam you could probably kill it before it has enough tp to use a tp move.
Sup Helel
Ragnarok.Ashman
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2011-01-03 14:03:51
Bismarck.Helel said: You don't need terror screen, although it would save you a lot of trouble. I brewed it on my RDM mule who only has 200 elemental skill haha. He did get terrorized but the brew lasts for 3m and terror only lasts for about 30 seconds. Chainspell wore off but I popped a revit and killed it. This was back before terror screens were introduced so I didn't have that option. Smok doesn't have any regain either so if you're going sam you could probably kill it before it has enough tp to use a tp move. Edit: In terms of Rani's charm, speed really doesn't have anything to do with whether you're getting charmed or not. Spells give the mob 10% tp, although this is probably reduced now with the agi update (maybe?). So you have about 10 brewed spells you can get off on Rani before she will use a tp move. Melee jobs would work the same way, it would just depend on the delay of the weapon you're using. Meh, Even after buying souls for OAT ill have dominion notes falling out of my ***. Better safe than sorry.
Lakshmi.Greggles
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2011-01-03 20:08:50
Fenrir.Krazyrs said:
could be worse, para proc'd on my friend at shinryu fight when he went to brew, guess he was lucky it was only 200k crour and a stone
Credit to Dasva :o
Bismarck.Selzak
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By Bismarck.Selzak 2011-01-11 13:17:23
I doubt this is possible (it's not food is it?), but the thought of a Colibri eating it is pretty hilarious to me. Especially if it kept the effect indefinitely and randomly encountered shocked players just trying to kill a Colibri.
I don't know if anyone has tried this against anything that dispels stuff.
Can mobs dispel our brew? That would be kind of awful.
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