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Opinions on Perle body for DRK Tp?
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-07-25 14:54:56
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Clone troopers go !
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-07-25 14:56:00
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Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said:
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Yeah, Perle gear is stupid strong for the investment, and the reason why I don't play DRK anymore.


I'll go to Events on SCH or BST before I go looking like a *** Mormon in celestial garments.

lolz. I still walk around in my Ebody and ***and just swap into full perle right before I start fighting. it sucks, but it's one of my strongest DDs... the extra atk is nice since I got plaga's scythe with higher base than usual.

I'm trying to go more THF though, even doing magians. :/


Beastmaster is a superior Straight Damage-Dealer now. The Combined total of What Lucky Lulush is capable of, and what the Beastmaster can do properly equipped (Punisher,Ebody,Blahblahblahsparkles) is really quite amazing.

Though if there is the possibility of a backup tank required, I'll still go DRK/NIN, but for any standard DD fair, I hop on my Beastmaster and Lern *** some BST powahrz.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-07-25 14:59:56
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Just .dat swap the Perle into Homam! Everybody's happy! (lolps2xboxlimitations)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-07-25 15:04:36
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Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
Just .dat swap the Perle into Homam! Everybody's happy! (lolps2xboxlimitations)

^ This is good advice!

Gotta love .DATs...
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-07-25 15:05:24
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Zicdeh any way you can item set your BST builds? I'm curious on the job and want to see if I have the proper gear/proper gear is obtainable w/ little effort. Also Can beast get away with rockin it 2004 style Axe/Ridill?
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-07-25 15:06:28
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
Just .dat swap the Perle into Homam! Everybody's happy! (lolps2xboxlimitations)

^ This is good advice!

Gotta love .DATs...


It only works if everyone swaps their .dat files.

Basically, .dat mods are like removing the mirrors in a Morbidly Obese man's life. Sure, he can't see how ugly he is, but everyone else can.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-07-25 15:07:17
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Fenrir.Mankey said:
Zicdeh any way you can item set your BST builds? I'm curious on the job and want to see if I have the proper gear/proper gear is obtainable w/ little effort. Also Can beast get away with rockin it 2004 style Axe/Ridill?

I'll do that right now, but I might have a technoduck moment while I learn the new item tags.
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-07-25 15:08:26
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lmao
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-07-25 15:09:43
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Odin.Zicdeh said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:
Just .dat swap the Perle into Homam! Everybody's happy! (lolps2xboxlimitations)

^ This is good advice!

Gotta love .DATs...


It only works if everyone swaps their .dat files.

Basically, .dat mods are like removing the mirrors in a Morbidly Obese man's life. Sure, he can't see how ugly he is, but everyone else can.

I like to be the only pretty one at the ball.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-07-25 15:18:35
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Fenrir.Mankey said:
Zicdeh any way you can item set your BST builds? I'm curious on the job and want to see if I have the proper gear/proper gear is obtainable w/ little effort. Also Can beast get away with rockin it 2004 style Axe/Ridill?

The TP sets I use for Actively Engaged with the Pet, and Totally Ignoring the pet is up. If you REALLY want to, I can post my Rampage and Primal Rend Gearsets, but I'm really not into the whole Epeen ***, so I'd rather not.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-25 15:19:37
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Well if you don't have Dusk gloves +1 then it comes down to
14str, 4dex, 2% crit rate, 10 attack Vs 10 accuracy and 1% haste. I'm curious if full perle would be worth Tping in for apoc o.o
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By Alexander.Xgalahadx 2010-07-25 15:22:00
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
Well if you don't have Dusk gloves +1 then it comes down to
14str, 4dex, 2% crit rate, 10 attack Vs 10 accuracy and 1% haste. I'm curious if full perle would be worth Tping in for apoc o.o
Where is that extra 1% haste from if you don't have dusk+1?
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-07-25 15:23:20
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Probably doesn't know about the misprint on head.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-07-25 15:24:07
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
Well if you don't have Dusk gloves +1 then it comes down to
14str, 4dex, 2% crit rate, 10 attack Vs 10 accuracy and 1% haste. I'm curious if full perle would be worth Tping in for apoc o.o


The consensus is, unless you have Ace's Hose, Timarli Jawshan, Timarli Dastanas or Dusk +1 (Or obviously any combination of those)


5/5 Perle > Ebody+Turban.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-07-25 15:24:18
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
Well if you don't have Dusk gloves +1 then it comes down to
14str, 4dex, 2% crit rate, 10 attack Vs 10 accuracy and 1% haste. I'm curious if full perle would be worth Tping in for apoc o.o

what are you comparing?

Full perle has -1 accuracy than HomamX3 + turban + Hauberk+1

Full perle has -7 accuracy than HomamX3 + turban + E-body.

They both have +14% haste.

where are you getting 10 accuracy and 1% haste?
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-25 15:26:58
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
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Well if you don't have Dusk gloves +1 then it comes down to 14str, 4dex, 2% crit rate, 10 attack Vs 10 accuracy and 1% haste. I'm curious if full perle would be worth Tping in for apoc o.o
what are you comparing? Full perle has -1 accuracy than HomamX3 + turban + Hauberk+1 Full perle has -7 accuracy than HomamX3 + turban + E-body. They both have +14% haste. where are you getting 10 accuracy and 1% haste?

Perle has 18 accuracy. Hauberk +1 is 12+4+3+6 = 25 accuracy.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-07-25 15:28:30
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Cerberus.Excelior said:

Perle has 18 accuracy. Hauberk +1 is 12+4+3+6 = 25 accuracy.
maybe you're forgetting about the dex.
as for Apoc... sounds promising, but you'd end in 27% haste after rounding down.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-25 15:29:20
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Well its junk for apoc aftermath. I can do a mixed set with capped haste that is way better. I'm talking pre aftermath.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-07-25 15:29:47
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
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Well if you don't have Dusk gloves +1 then it comes down to 14str, 4dex, 2% crit rate, 10 attack Vs 10 accuracy and 1% haste. I'm curious if full perle would be worth Tping in for apoc o.o
what are you comparing? Full perle has -1 accuracy than HomamX3 + turban + Hauberk+1 Full perle has -7 accuracy than HomamX3 + turban + E-body. They both have +14% haste. where are you getting 10 accuracy and 1% haste?

Perle has 18 accuracy. Hauberk +1 is 12+4+3+6 = 25 accuracy.

No. Let's do this again:

Full perle: Accuracy:18 (it's really 28.5 accuracy, when you add the accuracy from DEX.)

HomamX3 + Turban + Hauberk +1: Accuracy:25 (it's really 29.5 accuracy, when you add the accuracy from DEX.)

For every point of Dex, you get +0.75 accuracy. (for 2-handers)

If you change that Hauberk +1 for an E-body, then E-body would be... accuracy: 28 ( it's really 35.5 accuracy, when you add the accuracy from the DEX.)

Thus Hauberk +1 + homamX3 + turban... only has 1 more accuracy than Full Perle set, but full perle has a lot more str and attack.

And E-body + homamX3 + turban... has 7 more accuracy than full perle set, but full perle has more str and more attack still. If you don't need the accuracy+7, full perle wins. (unless the E-body mix/match gear also has stuff like Dusk gloves +1)
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-07-25 15:31:55
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
Well its junk for apoc aftermath. I can do a mixed set with capped haste that is way better. I'm talking pre aftermath.
Full perle is the best setup for tping on DRK.... unless you have Timarli Dastanas/Timarli Body, but for the latter to win, you'd need zerg-level buffs.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-25 15:34:51
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Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Well if you don't have Dusk gloves +1 then it comes down to 14str, 4dex, 2% crit rate, 10 attack Vs 10 accuracy and 1% haste. I'm curious if full perle would be worth Tping in for apoc o.o
what are you comparing? Full perle has -1 accuracy than HomamX3 + turban + Hauberk+1 Full perle has -7 accuracy than HomamX3 + turban + E-body. They both have +14% haste. where are you getting 10 accuracy and 1% haste?
Perle has 18 accuracy. Hauberk +1 is 12+4+3+6 = 25 accuracy.
No. Let's do this again: Full perle: Accuracy:18 (it's really 28.5 accuracy, when you add the accuracy from DEX.) HomamX3 + Turban + Hauberk +1: Accuracy:25 (it's really 29.5 accuracy, when you add the accuracy from DEX.)

Well my point was that Ebody has more accuracy and more haste. How do they both have 14% haste?
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-07-25 15:35:21
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The head is a misprint. Has 3% not 2%.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-25 15:36:12
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Where does it say it's a missprint and not just due to rounding haste values?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-07-25 15:36:53
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said:
Cerberus.Excelior said:
Well if you don't have Dusk gloves +1 then it comes down to 14str, 4dex, 2% crit rate, 10 attack Vs 10 accuracy and 1% haste. I'm curious if full perle would be worth Tping in for apoc o.o
what are you comparing? Full perle has -1 accuracy than HomamX3 + turban + Hauberk+1 Full perle has -7 accuracy than HomamX3 + turban + E-body. They both have +14% haste. where are you getting 10 accuracy and 1% haste?
Perle has 18 accuracy. Hauberk +1 is 12+4+3+6 = 25 accuracy.
No. Let's do this again: Full perle: Accuracy:18 (it's really 28.5 accuracy, when you add the accuracy from DEX.) HomamX3 + Turban + Hauberk +1: Accuracy:25 (it's really 29.5 accuracy, when you add the accuracy from DEX.)

Well my point was that Ebody has more accuracy and more haste. How do they both have 14% haste?

Edited my previous post btw... E-body only has +7 more accuracy, if you don't need that extra +7 accuracy... full perle is better.

And they both have +14% haste because there is a misprint on the perle head, it says +2% on the NA version, but the perle head really has +3% haste.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-07-25 15:37:05
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JP client has 3%. It was tested too, I think Raenryong posted something about it a while back
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By Alexander.Xgalahadx 2010-07-25 15:37:54
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The French and Japanese client both have it as haste +3% only the English has it as 2%.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-25 15:39:22
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I guess I'm asking how do they know its +3% haste? In 1024ths form: 20.48/1024ths is pretty off from 30.72/1024ths. I'm not saying its wrong, I would just like to know where they got evidence of this. Its a pretty significant difference.

Edit: Thanks galahad :D
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-07-25 15:50:10
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
I guess I'm asking how do they know its +3% haste? In 1024ths form: 20.48/1024ths is pretty off from 30.72/1024ths. I'm not saying its wrong, I would just like to know where they got evidence of this. Its a pretty significant difference.

Edit: Thanks galahad :D

*** you best be trollin. This has been tested quite a few times. There are some of the tests in the drk threads on here I believe if you want to rifle through them.
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By Cerberus.Excelior 2010-07-25 16:17:00
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Well I'm a Believer now.

New best apoc aftermath build:
Perle + Blitz ring + the 15acc 15atk 1% DA belt.

You lose .5% haste but the gains beat all current builds :/
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-07-25 16:22:08
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I still think will beat out the belt Aftermath build
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