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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » But Celine Dion was good in the 90's, let's not forget. I remember that *** song from Titanic not going away for the entirety of 1998, an otherwise immaculate year in my life. I can't forgive that. Ramyrez said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » But Celine Dion was good in the 90's, let's not forget. I remember that *** song from Titanic not going away for the entirety of 1998, an otherwise immaculate year in my life. I can't forgive that. There are easily 5-10 songs that would stick to your brain over My heart will go on if you knew her before. RIP English speakers. *flute intro*
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » Ramyrez said: » Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » But Celine Dion was good in the 90's, let's not forget. I remember that *** song from Titanic not going away for the entirety of 1998, an otherwise immaculate year in my life. I can't forgive that. There are easily 5-10 songs that would stick to your brain over My heart will go on if you knew her before. RIP English speakers. No, I'm well aware of her...eh..."body of work." I'm just not sure we agree upon the level of war crime "the Titanic song" was. You're willing to forgive it. I'm still not sure we shouldn't have contacted the Hague. Well looks like Nick Clegg nailed it: https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/will-wake-vote-leave/
Honestly, if the Lib dems play their cards right. They could get into parliament for the first time they could land in a position of power since the 1920s really (Ok i know they reformed in the 1980s, but my point stands).
Sylph.Katsuras said: » they were waiting to unleash their plans This is what we want lol. YouTube Video Placeholder So question. If EU superstate is real. Does that mean Germans are no longer "German" and French no longer "French"? Do we just call them euros? Sounds like a huge loss of cultural identity
volkom said: » So question. If EU superstate is real. Does that mean Germans are no longer "German" and French no longer "French"? Do we just call them euros? Sounds like a huge loss of cultural identity Same as the Bavarian, Hessian, ect. Don't know how you will call us then, 'friends' would still be an unused option. The fact that americans of all people can't see the parallel is saddening. I swear if the USA tried to form today they'd be against.
Valefor.Sehachan said: » The fact that americans of all people can't see the parallel is saddening. I swear if the USA tried to form today they'd be against. Yeah, a lot of people would be. Look at how many "states' rights" advocates there are just on this forum. The fact the U.S. managed to form at all -- even back then! -- is kinda impressive. Bismarck.Leneth said: » volkom said: » So question. If EU superstate is real. Does that mean Germans are no longer "German" and French no longer "French"? Do we just call them euros? Sounds like a huge loss of cultural identity Same as the Bavarian, Hessian, ect. Don't know how you will call us then, 'friends' would still be an unused option. (I'm sorry i'll go now) Sylph.Shadowlina said: » Bismarck.Leneth said: » volkom said: » So question. If EU superstate is real. Does that mean Germans are no longer "German" and French no longer "French"? Do we just call them euros? Sounds like a huge loss of cultural identity Same as the Bavarian, Hessian, ect. Don't know how you will call us then, 'friends' would still be an unused option. (I'm sorry i'll go now) Offline
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European superstate - I wonder what Mother Russia will think of that. They have a history of just watching their neighbours to the west do that kind of thing.
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Actually, I wonder what the USA hawks will think of that too.
volkom said: » So question. If EU superstate is real. Does that mean Germans are no longer "German" and French no longer "French"? Do we just call them euros? Sounds like a huge loss of cultural identity The loss of cultural identity -- or rather, the fear of it -- is one of the most power weapons a politician/leader/demagogue has in their arsenal because it suppose that someone wants to come along and take away said "cultural identity." Which is patently ***. I think literally the only group who could really fear that right now on the planet are radical quasi-religious/political regimes like ISIS, where their "culture" includes so many basic human rights violations that anyone wanting to preserve that "cultural identity" is borderline-objectively most-correctly labeled as a monster anyhow. The idea of unions -- be it the U.S., EU, or any other union real, conceptual, or imagined -- is to bring together the best parts of the traditions of all its member entities. Even if it's something stupid that we can have good-natured arguments over, like which regional method of enjoying a hot dog is best. Sure, there are problems in life no matter how we approach it, but the concept of these unions -- and I'd like to think I speak for most people here who are in favor of said unifications -- is that it offers the best of these traditions to all to be shared. I know it's fashionable to hate on the U.S. a lot, and to criticize its problems, from without or within. I'm culpable myself sometimes of being overly-critical of my own country. But even with its problems, it's got a lot of success going for it too through two-plus centuries of cultural blending, and I think you'll frequently see that both in the U.S. and around the globe that "Nationalism" -- which is basically just a positive way of saying "keep your shitty traditions out of our amazing culture" -- has very seldom helped anyone in the long run. Odinz said: » Actually, I wonder what the USA hawks will think of that too. I'll never understand how France can be a strong country seeing the state the country is in.
I just hope people don't expect us to be some kind of model or superpower, or whatever. It just doesn't fit. Sylph.Katsuras said: » The point was, the UK absolutely did not want this (nor do quite a few other nations) as shown by them voting against the Euro and schengen. So any uk voters who may of been second guessing, now you know what you voted out of. Not carrying on as you were but aggressive closer integration, until our nation would of been dissolved into the super state. No thank you! This would of been our last chance and we took it, thank god. Have a good time, UK, or should I say, England. The only people angry at what you guys did are Scottish people who you pretty much shat on. And are happy to have done so. Talk about being smart. Nothing will be dissolved. Superstate is a political term. As much as our countries' culture have been mixed with things that aren't even "EU born", , they don't want to outright kill people's culture, it just makes no sense. And whoever has lived/extensively visited various EU countries understands that there is a common thing between them, anyway. Odinz said: » European superstate - I wonder what Mother Russia will think of that. They have a history of just watching their neighbours to the west do that kind of thing. Yes, well, they were engaged in the very same thing at the time as well, more or less... Offline
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The person that made the OP must not have thought about the future...
You guys are just jealous nobody calls your country "super"!
"The Super State of Europe" sounds pretty good. Michael Bay could make a summer movie off it.
Ramyrez said: » Valefor.Sehachan said: » The fact that americans of all people can't see the parallel is saddening. I swear if the USA tried to form today they'd be against. Yeah, a lot of people would be. Look at how many "states' rights" advocates there are just on this forum. The fact the U.S. managed to form at all -- even back then! -- is kinda impressive. Advocating states' rights is in no way anti-American government. It is simply a realization of the relationship that the national government is supposed to have with the states, as was understood by the founders. Comparing the EU to the relationship the states have with the US government shows a strong lack of comprehension. Don't even pull that crap just to take shots at Conservatives. Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: » "The Super State of Europe" sounds pretty good. Michael Bay could make a summer movie off it. Shutter the windows, kids. Giant robots are coming to the historic landmarks near you, and you can bet they're not leaving without a lot of crushed cars and at least a dozen explosions. |
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