[Dev] SCH - Regarding Cure V And Regen |
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[Dev] SCH - Regarding Cure V and Regen
Madifenrir said: » btw we were talking post 80cap, else the whole haste argument seemed kinda pointless there You were the one talking about old times, I'm saying SCH was shitty during that era because it simple couldn't fill the "one mage only" role. :x Bahamut.Cuelebra said: » question? no talk of haste2, if they do they are going to have to increase attack speed cap. sch IS getting haste next update, knock on wood. whats gonna be's RDM's uniqueness then? sch/whm already gets haste btw I was talking about OLD STUFF, because that's what they mentioned. Yes I am completely aware that SCH/WHM gets Haste, and that it's already a very nice supplemental job. You people need to learn how to read christ.
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let me go dig out the post give me 10 minutes ~_~
im going to lunch, i hear panda express calling! this thread has turned from regen4/cure5 into haste@merit camps and refreshvs sublimation now! wheres Krizz when u need him!
happy?
Quote: 1200 HP = 300 MP with no gear = 43 ticks and 86 HP lost, 10 ticks before you can put it back up makes +5.66 MP/tick and -1.62 HP/tick Bahamut.Cuelebra said: » Idk, this talk about conserving mp and refresh vs sublimation... is it really that important atm? Especially in VW... with the temp items you get. I just don't see conserving MP that important for any mage, even PLD.
Siren.Kalilla said: » Idk, this talk about conserving mp and refresh vs sublimation... is it really that important atm? Especially in VW... with the temp items you get. I just don't see conserving MP that important for any mage, even PLD. Think the whole point now is why bring a rdm or sch? Siren.Kalilla said: » Idk, this talk about conserving mp and refresh vs sublimation... is it really that important atm? Especially in VW... with the temp items you get. I just don't see conserving MP that important for any mage, even PLD. It's not, I was talking about why RDM > SCH at 75, but now it's just gotten out of hand~ Madifenrir said: » Siren.Kalilla said: » Idk, this talk about conserving mp and refresh vs sublimation... is it really that important atm? Especially in VW... with the temp items you get. I just don't see conserving MP that important for any mage, even PLD. Think the whole point now is why bring a rdm or sch? RDM for t2 Merits for proc spells!
SCH for Helix. Until SE gives them them to subjob...stupid. Ragnarok.Zirael said: » Bahamut.Cuelebra said: » so yes ent and cele mathsayshi2u Siren.Kalilla said: » To proc? >.>; ^ When they do the helix update, I don't see SCH keeping their Voidwatch spot sadly. They only have two unique procs at that point, one of which pretty much never lands. :x Siren.Mcclane said: » RDM for t2 Merits for proc spells! SCH for Helix. Until SE gives them them to subjob...stupid. Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » well hopefully they'll fix sch ja procing during the next update, landing libra and modus on a target and still not producing a proc is getting rather old. wtf libra doesn't work either? @@; Siren.Mcclane said: » RDM for t2 Merits for proc spells! SCH for Helix. Until SE gives them them to subjob...stupid. I think the outcry of SCH's is going to prevent the change, SE is just putting it off to let people get more emotional then they give them what they want and they are happy again and so on. I've seen "BLM job abilities" come up in message, then one BLM will Enmity Douce, no proc. Then a second BLM will do it and it will proc. Think it's just screwy sometimes.
DRK got Break as well :p and many times i've proc'd red more than blms in VW using elemental spells more than my dark spells (welcome to a nearly complete derailment)
I guess if SE is set on keeping whm the only one with Cure V, at the very least, the regen effects (according to level of regen cast with storm spells [on top of the merited stat bonus] could be just what sch needs to compete for a tactical advantage) oh they work, just 80% of the time it doesnt actually proc the weakness, i brought it up to SE like 2 months ago so im still waiting on the fix
Or, they gave it to all jobs on the test server for a wider testing group, and are making it SCH only during final release.
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » oh they work, just 80% of the time it doesnt actually proc the weakness, i brought it up to SE like 2 months ago so im still waiting on the fix :x That's shitty. Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » oh they work, just 80% of the time it doesnt actually proc the weakness, i brought it up to SE like 2 months ago so im still waiting on the fix Yah i so love my linkshell yelling at me. because they think im ignoring the "SCH Job Ability Message" DID U USE MODUS VERITAS YET? 10x ITS THAT or LIBRA DID U LIBRA?! Fenrir.Niniann said: » Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » oh they work, just 80% of the time it doesnt actually proc the weakness, i brought it up to SE like 2 months ago so im still waiting on the fix :x That's shitty. edit: beat lol Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » now imagine getting yelled at because you havent proc'd your sch abilities yet and you swear up and down you did lol. edit: beat lol Sucks. ><; Oh i can attest to that... Libra is a fine 1 min recast, while on the other hand, Modus Veritus, which seems to refuse to land 99% of the time, has a 10min recast, so unless you get a cor in pt who does random deal, you can only use it 3x per fight at most, as opposed to, say, Enmity Dowse, which lands 100% of the time. (even if you're not processing and really need the enmity down)
I've never gone SCH to Voidwatch, do you think it's related to Modus's chance to "resist" on stronger NMs or is it just bugged?
If it's the former, I doubt they'll change it, gotta protect against dem Modus burns. Fenrir.Jinjo said: » I've never gone SCH to Voidwatch, do you think it's related to Modus's chance to "resist" on stronger NMs or is it just bugged? If it's the former, I doubt they'll change it, gotta protect against dem Modus burns. Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » Fenrir.Niniann said: » Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: » oh they work, just 80% of the time it doesnt actually proc the weakness, i brought it up to SE like 2 months ago so im still waiting on the fix :x That's shitty. edit: beat lol Typical SCH in VW. This was me getting yelled at by 5 people over Modus Veritas and Libra processing.... Even Qilin i swear joined in on the fun
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