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Keep foragers mantle?
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By Scorchx 2010-03-11 15:02:16
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I recently just bought a Cuchulain's Mantle and i was wondering if there was still a need for Forager's mantle, i have thf sam war 75 that i would use it for. any ideas?
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By Fairy.Geefunk 2010-03-11 15:08:36
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For Sam, Cuchu for TP, Foragers for WS
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By Scorchx 2010-03-11 15:10:34
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but why forager for WS when gekko,kasha is 75% str mod
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-03-11 15:12:47
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depending on gear/merits for WAR

cuch/aggressor down

forager's/aggressor up
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By Shiva.Weewoo 2010-03-11 15:12:57
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Keep Foragers for single/two hit WSes like shark bite and mandalic stab. If I recall correctly, THF gets a good boost from attack unlike other classes.
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2010-03-11 15:13:37
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King's Justice in Foragers, Raging Rush in Cuch if you can get close to/at DEX cap.

Edit**

Steel Cyclone in Foragers, and also what Sevourn said.
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By Scorchx 2010-03-11 15:15:42
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well i only really use war for merits on birds and the acc is nice for raging rush and the 4 dex helps me reach dex cap on the birds
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By Pandemonium.Isiolia 2010-03-11 15:17:27
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Would need a rather high level mob for GKatana WS to benefit from the ATT I think.

TP would depend on accuracy rate.

WAR, definitely could alternate depending on Aggressor, and possibly if pushing for crits.
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By Remora.Beltenebros 2010-03-11 15:21:28
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Agreeing with Scorchx. For SAM, your best back piece for Y/G/K is a Smilodon Mantle +1 (assuming you're not WSing on Gods/wyrms anything else where your attack isn't capped) Really not much of a need for Forager's on SAM unless you've gil to burn and hate the white box from an HQ Amemet.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-03-11 15:42:44
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Keep it around for ACC capped TP and ACC capped + pDIF uncapped WS (barring a DEX-based RR build). Both WAR and SAM can get at least some use out of it.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-11 16:48:17
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Shiva.Weewoo said:
Keep Foragers for single/two hit WSes like shark bite and mandalic stab. If I recall correctly, THF gets a good boost from attack unlike other classes.
Um class doesn't really make a difference with att. As far as the ws SB is the most heavily dex modded ws there is and Man stab gets 1.66X att and so most the time that will cap your Ratio.

Granted the only time you should really use either over DE is over really really evasive or higher def mobs. Generally if they are super evasive there def is high enough that you should be using man stab. Which case that would be a situation you might not be capping Ratio. Still probably would use Cuch if I was SAing it though.
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By Asura.Shamaya 2010-03-11 20:29:31
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This is around the time where you should make a low acc set and a high acc one.

Coming from a Thf perspective, you should at least keep it for SA/TA without WS. That's enough of a reason to use it outside of alternate WS/TP builds.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-11 20:38:48
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Cuch might still do more on solo SA unless your Ratio is really low
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By Asura.Shamaya 2010-03-12 02:38:21
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True, true. There are some ratios here for SA. An attack mantle is still better, but mind you these are merit settings.
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By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-03-12 06:52:58
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Keep forager for any time your acc is capped. If you tp in cuch while capped, that's pretty gimp yo
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