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By Kujata.Argettio 2010-03-08 07:48:45
Ramuh.Tousou said: Ramuh.Kalyna said: You're a RDM, you guys think you're healers but yer not. So until it's widely proven RDM can't be a main healer, you're the main healer and you're expected to:
Haste
Refresh
Sleepga
Cure the tanks
Convert when necessary
Keep your Reraise up (seriously, you didn't Reraise before the run?)
Silly Kalyna, can't do both simultaneously :p
Things like that is what makes you a good player. (although I admit I forget to put RR up far too often)
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-03-08 07:50:14
Jeez, can't even make a joke about /blm vs /whm without people tearing it apart D:
Edit: For the record, I don't carry Reraise anything. Yeah yeah, I'm a shitty player. Granted, I don't *** about getting R1'd either xD
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By Kujata.Argettio 2010-03-08 07:52:51
Ramuh.Tousou said: Jeez, can't even make a joke about /blm vs /whm without people tearing it apart D:
Edit: For the record, I don't carry Reraise anything. Yeah yeah, I'm a shitty player. Granted, I don't *** about getting R1'd either xD
I wasn't tearing anyone apart.
No offence, but this forum as plenty of people that would assume "I R /BLM, I can't ReRaise!! RAISE 3 PLZ" and for all I knew, you where one of them.
Not carrying RR item is bad... Everyone should carry an earring with at least 1-2 charges on it.
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By Ramuh.Kalyna 2010-03-08 07:53:12
Kujata.Argettio said: Ramuh.Tousou said: Ramuh.Kalyna said: You're a RDM, you guys think you're healers but yer not. So until it's widely proven RDM can't be a main healer, you're the main healer and you're expected to: Haste Refresh Sleepga Cure the tanks Convert when necessary Keep your Reraise up (seriously, you didn't Reraise before the run?) Silly Kalyna, can't do both simultaneously :p Things like that is what makes you a good player. (although I admit I forget to put RR up far too often) thanks for that lol i was just bout to find that earring.
this is what i meant.
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-03-08 07:55:21
Kujata.Argettio said: I wasn't tearing anyone apart.
"It." As in: "The argument was torn apart."
Sorry for the insufficient clarity.
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By Ramuh.Kalyna 2010-03-08 07:56:48
Cerberus.Mindi said: RR Hairpin, Gorget, Earring Hi-Reraiser and so on is your friend; should never do Endgame events as a healer without a form of RR. (and yea, even DD's should have RR) <3
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By Hades.Tripster 2010-03-08 08:01:33
Every good player MUST carry around in their satchel:
- Some sort of RR
- Echo Drops
- Prism Powder
- Silent Oil
- A damn Sprinter Shoes (if you dont have mov+ gear)
- Warp Cudgel
And they SHOULD carry
- Remedies
- Holy Waters
- Poison Potions
- Signet Staff
- At least 1 type of pro-ether (if you're a mage)
- Nexus Cape / Ram Staff
- Tavnazia Ring, Dem Ring and Altep Ring
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By semimmortal 2010-03-08 08:03:42
Hmmm, just started reading the OP's post (sorry Tousou, that just caught my eye after getting flashbacks of soloing without reraises and hours of screaming :x), but wouldn't /SCH help him out more if all he did was Buff and Cure?
Cheaper spells thanks to Light arts as well changing into Dark arts for the occasional Aspir?
Not a RDM (but might be one day! Reading topics like these would help me a lot), so I hope I don't sound stupid lol.
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By Cerberus.Mindi 2010-03-08 08:06:53
/SCH is really nice for RDM i allways(when i dont need erase...) use it when i duo with my bf's NIN some stuff for missions and such, BUT many events need Erase or a Curaga is needed. So when you arent a Support for a WHM and need to mainheal on your own /whm still wins.
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By Carbuncle.Kyhira 2010-03-08 08:13:46
Ramuh.Kalyna said: You're a RDM, you guys think you're healers but yer not. So until it's widely proven RDM can't be a main healer, you're the main healer and you're expected to:
Haste
Refresh
Sleepga
Cure the tanks
Convert when necessary
Keep your Reraise up (seriously, you didn't Reraise before the run?)
Unless they've changed it since I did dyna last time (about a year ago) reraise and other buffs wears when you enter?
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By Ramuh.Kalyna 2010-03-08 08:16:55
Carbuncle.Kyhira said: Ramuh.Kalyna said: You're a RDM, you guys think you're healers but yer not. So until it's widely proven RDM can't be a main healer, you're the main healer and you're expected to: Haste Refresh Sleepga Cure the tanks Convert when necessary Keep your Reraise up (seriously, you didn't Reraise before the run?) Unless they've changed it since I did dyna last time (about a year ago) reraise and other buffs wears when you enter? i don't think so o.o but i meant right when he enters like the second it loads up
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By Kujata.Argettio 2010-03-08 08:17:51
semimmortal said: Hmmm, just started reading the OP's post (sorry Tousou, that just caught my eye after getting flashbacks of soloing without reraises and hours of screaming :x), but wouldn't /SCH help him out more if all he did was Buff and Cure?
Cheaper spells thanks to Light arts as well changing into Dark arts for the occasional Aspir?
Not a RDM (but might be one day! Reading topics like these would help me a lot), so I hope I don't sound stupid lol.
RDM/SCH is the best combo for mindless buffing/curing. RDM/WHM gives you erase, which is valuable for main healing in a lot of situations, but not always a necessity.
Every soon (read: when the lvl cap is 80), RDM/SCH will be SEEXXXXYY. If nothing else, we will get Erase meaning we get everything (except curga) from /SCH that we get from /WHM.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2010-03-08 08:19:08
Hades.Tripster said: Every good player MUST carry around in their satchel:
- Some sort of RR DRKs can't have RR up, it's against their persona.
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By Ramuh.Kalyna 2010-03-08 08:20:01
Asura.Dameshi said: Hades.Tripster said: Every good player MUST carry around in their satchel: - Some sort of RR DRKs can't have RR up, it's against their persona. lol'd
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By semimmortal 2010-03-08 08:20:18
Kujata.Argettio said: when the lvl cap is 80, RDM/SCH will be SEEXXXXYY Someone finally caught my what I was thinking about :)
Until then, back to level syncing orz
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By Kujata.Argettio 2010-03-08 08:20:46
Asura.Dameshi said: Hades.Tripster said: Every good player MUST carry around in their satchel:
- Some sort of RR DRKs can't have RR up, it's against their persona.
Real DRK are that dedicated to dying that they would use reraise just so they can get up and die again.
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By Ramuh.Kalyna 2010-03-08 08:21:47
Kujata.Argettio said: Asura.Dameshi said: Hades.Tripster said: Every good player MUST carry around in their satchel: - Some sort of RR DRKs can't have RR up, it's against their persona. Real DRK are that dedicated to dying that they would use reraise just so they can get up and die again. Doesn't suprise me at all
By semimmortal 2010-03-08 08:26:56
lol, actually, when I used to be main DRK, I remember to never raise my self (assuming I've used a reraise) if there was a WHM around still alive and yell "RAISE III PLEASE!".
It sucks getting those buffer exp back :/
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By Fairy.Basilo 2010-03-08 08:29:11
Kujata.Argettio said: Asura.Dameshi said: Hades.Tripster said: Every good player MUST carry around in their satchel: - Some sort of RR DRKs can't have RR up, it's against their persona. Real DRK are that dedicated to dying that they would use reraise just so they can get up and die again.
Lol love it.
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By Ifrit.Itazura 2010-03-08 08:30:01
Oh, to clarify, our PLDs function as what some people termed 'callers' ("main /assist" to us).
Not sure if our usual PLDs have experience on holding multiple sleeping critters. (They certainly haven't been doing that so far.)
Cerberus.Mindi said: either have BLM/RDM/BRD/BLU spam sleep/stun/lullaby/headbutt until the MNK is death and beside that have competent melee who arent afraid to WS on HF... if all WS when he uses HF it will be death before he can hurt you. I thought about using this method, but our barely-a-month-old Dynamis group doesn't quite have the firepower on the DD side or the coordination for a Stun order on the BLM side. Yet.
The average kill time for Vanguard Pitfighters was 1:30.51. Don't have all the offensive data due to filtering stuff outside of my alliance, but it seems like most melee DDs' WS were under 500 on Pitfighters. (We're really not all that terrible--for a shout LS. Win 3/4 cities so far. =b )
The best we can do right now is let PLD tank half of Hundred Firsts then DDs fire off WS's and hope for the best.
Cerberus.Mindi said: or have BLM or RDM on 2hr duty, means Gravity > Nuke > Sleep repeat until it used 2hr. Just need to let your caller know when he can do the mnk I used to do this in a previous Dynamis LS, but haven't been able to go as RDM in the current LS so far. Oh well, it's in the guide for crowd control people on our forum, but somewhat doubtful if anyone is going to read it.
Perhaps I can get the PLDs and a RDM together next run and see if we can do this as a trial.
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By Bahamut.Rienea 2010-03-08 08:36:11
Kujata.Argettio said: (except curga)
Accession - Cure IV. Assuming we get Accession from SJ.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-03-08 08:38:20
You're very talkative on these forums lately NEA!
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By Bahamut.Rienea 2010-03-08 08:56:55
I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about >.>!
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By Asura.Dameshi 2010-03-08 09:00:07
Kujata.Argettio said: Asura.Dameshi said: Hades.Tripster said: Every good player MUST carry around in their satchel:
- Some sort of RR DRKs can't have RR up, it's against their persona.
Real DRK are that dedicated to dying that they would use reraise just so they can get up and die again. Clearly you are a more dedicated DRK than I am.
/bow
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By Remora.Faythe 2010-03-08 09:02:12
Ramuh.Kalyna said: Carbuncle.Kyhira said: Ramuh.Kalyna said: You're a RDM, you guys think you're healers but yer not. So until it's widely proven RDM can't be a main healer, you're the main healer and you're expected to: Haste Refresh Sleepga Cure the tanks Convert when necessary Keep your Reraise up (seriously, you didn't Reraise before the run?) Unless they've changed it since I did dyna last time (about a year ago) reraise and other buffs wears when you enter? i don't think so o.o but i meant right when he enters like the second it loads up
Buffs only wear when entering Dreamlands Dyna, not cities or Icelands ^_^
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2010-03-08 09:44:06
I didn't read the whole thread, but at the OP:
You were refreshing and hasting when you noticed them wore off or when you noticed that their MP wasn't going up? This is why I *** hate composure. It turns lazy RDMs into HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE RDMs.
Don't use composure during events or parties when you are expected to keep a haste/refresh cycle. The exception would be unless you are using yarnball or something to keep track of when the buffs will wear.
Cast Refresh on yourself, Haste on whoever you are hasting, refresh, haste, refresh, haste, etc. When your refresh wears you restart the cycle. It's not that hard to keep haste up full time like this and you'll be the first to know when refresh is going to wear on people.
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By Remora.Kindle 2010-03-08 09:47:24
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Ramuh.Kalyna
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By Ramuh.Kalyna 2010-03-08 09:52:25
use macros.
/ma "*spell*" <t>
/wait (cast time + recast time -1)
/echo *spell* ready
or if you wanna wing it
/ma "Haste" <t>
/wait (cast time)
/ma "Refresh" <t>
/wait (cast time + figure out time remaining on Haste)
/echo Ready.
something like that. play aroudn with macros.
I come back from a 3month break 1st day playing I get into a dynamis run, end up getting stuck in the pld party, set up PLD PLD WHM RDM THF and some DD I think. I was refreshing and hasting the Plds and whm every time I saw it wear off or noticed there mp wasnt going up like it should with refresh on, then I died, never had chance to RR since the pulled right away, Then when I finaly get raise Ls leader tells me to make sure I keep Refresh and Haste on the main tank. Then at some point half way threw run the whm in the party left or d/c'd I dont know what happend to him. But I ended up being the only healer in the TANK party for like a hour or so. I was keeping refresh and haste on the main tank untill the blms didnt sleep mobs or something and I keep getting hate... Also I ended up being the ONLY person out of like a mix of 8 rdms whms and schs who where healing the PLDs the outside partys in the alliance who was healing them at certin points and they died because it was hard to keep them both alive while im getting hit also... and one of the plds for some reason was getting hit 300+ every hit even my friend said something is wrong with there gear... anyway the leader ended up saying I was the worst rdm he has ever seen and kickd me even tho I was doing the best i could to try to keep them alive... so post back and tell me wht u think of this...
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