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By Pandemonium.Yov 2010-03-07 09:43:34
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Pld in dynamis in 2010 LOL.
Tell your friend he's a bad leader and yes you're a bad rdm if you can't cure 2 plds, probably them sucked more than anyone else in the area luls.
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By Carbuncle.Maxz 2010-03-07 09:59:15
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iv been rdm sleeper im dyna before and if you cant keep up refresh haste ect and main heal you really do doi it wrong u can aspair the pets its not guarenteed a full mp bar but its a good chunck you can get back oh and why did you do a dyna your first day back and did you tell the leader it was your first day back oh and this is constructive critisim not sure if i spelt that right but anyways dont take offence just suck it up and learn how to do endgame events or just play casual
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By Unicorn.Emirii 2010-03-07 10:08:56
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To OP: Bad dynamis shell, 'nuff said. Find a better one and move on. :)
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By Hades.Tidis 2010-03-07 10:12:35
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I've never done rdm in dynamis, only pld and I love it!

Realistically the only mobs that should only be hitting PLD for 300+ are the demons in xarcabard, sounds like your PLD may be poorly geared.

As for your problems, the whm DCing definately doesn't help, perhaps your LS should have given you a whm to help but I know most rdm will be able to handle the situation you're in, especially when you're /blm you have access to aspir which can give you a quick bit of MP.

End of? I'd have to say you're at fault here just based on what i've heard, as for the "lol68 gear", seriously, undecuated opinions on PLD are not welcome, I have head, body and legs and still actively trying to get hands and feet, why? They're beautiful in enmity + magic defence sets, hell I still full time the hauberk, would be full timing the legs if I didn't have W legs and the head if I didn't have Koenig.

Perhaps post your gear so we know what kind of rdm we're dealing with here but naturally I believe any rdm should be able to get 700mp+ and that's at a bare minimum.
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By Kujata.Daus 2010-03-07 10:20:53
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Id cry if my mp was 700 on 75rdm/blm
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By Fenrir.Shambo 2010-03-07 10:22:33
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Hey Avatan you're not a bad rdm, you did your best and sheeit, you're not bad, those guys can take a good lick of your ***, okay?

you're not a bad rdm. let them lick your *** end of story.
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By Avatan 2010-03-07 10:27:37
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Light/Dark Staff
Fire Grip to poor to afford the good ones
Lamian Kamam
Warlock's Chapeau
Royal Redingote for fast cast since I cant get relic body
Errant Cuffs
Walock's Tights
Errant Pigaches
Beak Necklace
Hierarch Belt
Lamia Mantle
Antivenom Earring
Insomnia Earring
Electrum Ring
Ether ring
tht is my gear i know its crap because i really havent done much eg, i was on unicorn for like 4~5 years and every ls i got in the leader would hope servers or always give stuff to his friends so i could never get anything.
Also i was /whm because i am always told to come /whm to stuff over /blm or /drk soo...
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By Hades.Tidis 2010-03-07 10:28:18
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Kujata.Daus said:
Id cry if my mp was 700 on 75rdm/blm
Well I did say minimum, I personally would have 965 rdm/blm but that's not important.
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By Avatan 2010-03-07 10:29:25
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the best gear tht i have tht any of my eg shells ever got me is my O hat tht is about it i always seem to find the ls tht screw people over -.- and cant get into good ones since i dont have access to sea and cant get help with the missions have access to everything else all dynamis zones and stuff
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By Hades.Tidis 2010-03-07 10:34:09
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hmmm it's not often for rdm to come /whm as they are often expected to sleepga, ah well.

As for your gear, average I guess but not everyone can attain/afford the best gear.

As for this I won't comment anymore, i've said what I thought based on all the info i've seen, perhaps the LS were too quick in kicking you, i've seen worse in my Dyna LS, we just kept them on and have been guiding them on how to do their job in dyna.
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2010-03-07 10:55:48
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Why would you even put "the new guy" in a key position to begin with?

I would have thrown him as a haste/healer in a DD pt if it was his first dyna run with our ls, to see how he does there before even considering putting him in tank party.
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By Fenrir.Dramanue 2010-03-07 11:32:07
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Ok first off, I believe that one problem was that it was your first day back and you decided to go to Dynamis. Get some time under your belt so you can get back into the groove of healing, refreshing, debuffing, etc. If it was my first day back (which a lot of times it is), I'd have gone to a merit party where I'm main healing, hasting, etc. It's not that you're a bad red mage, it's that you weren't in the groove. I mean, a three month hiatus is three months nonetheless. It's three months of not being used to the fast pace of a Dynamis group or what-have-you. You're not a bad red mage, you knew your job, but you were slowed down due to your lack of practice.

I remember coming back after a long break and meriting for one or two weeks. I then decided to get a Dynamis LS and they made me the main tank party's primary red mage. They told me that they had never seen a red mage as good as I was even though I didn't have any elitist gear. I always doubt myself, I always do, and rather go by word of mouth when it comes to if I'm good or not. To see a paladin fighting over my being in his party the next run, was proof enough that I was fit once again.

In closing, all you need is a little practice. If you must, get into some sync'd parties as well. Main-healing in sync'd parties is a whole different ballgame than main-healing a colibri merit party.

Good luck in the future.
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By Unicorn.Nymphadora 2010-03-07 12:42:27
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To the OP: No, you're not a bad rdm. Your gear isn't bad, you seem to have a good grip on what you're supposed to be doing in the situation. All that happened, you just got caught up in a bad situation and because it was your first day back after a break you weren't able to handle it as well as you could have. From reading your initial post, there were mistakes flying all over the place from every direction; your own, the pld's, the whm, and the leaders. PLD's should have been curing themselves. Leader shouldn't have expected you to perform flawlessly on your first day back and with poorly performing pld's and they were a little quick to kick you.

Honestly I would take a week or two, get a few good merit parties, get myself back in the groove of things, then look around for a decent dynamis group. It shouldn't take you long to gear up rdm how you want it once you've found a good home. :)

Also, you can get the grips from doing ZNM, they drop very often. That might be a good endgame activity to look into, can get some really decent gear for rdm besides the grips too. ^^
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By Ramuh.Kiroo 2010-03-07 13:32:46
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IDK, ive main healed plds before in my 6 years in dynamis, never had much problems with hate, what the hell is up with those plds?
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By Remora.Ganon 2010-03-07 13:42:09
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Avatan said:
I come back from a 3month break 1st day playing I get into a dynamis run, end up getting stuck in the pld party, set up PLD PLD WHM RDM THF and some DD I think. I was refreshing and hasting the Plds and whm every time I saw it wear off or noticed there mp wasnt going up like it should with refresh on, then I died, never had chance to RR since the pulled right away, Then when I finaly get raise Ls leader tells me to make sure I keep Refresh and Haste on the main tank. Then at some point half way threw run the whm in the party left or d/c'd I dont know what happend to him. But I ended up being the only healer in the TANK party for like a hour or so. I was keeping refresh and haste on the main tank untill the blms didnt sleep mobs or something and I keep getting hate... Also I ended up being the ONLY person out of like a mix of 8 rdms whms and schs who where healing the PLDs the outside partys in the alliance who was healing them at certin points and they died because it was hard to keep them both alive while im getting hit also... and one of the plds for some reason was getting hit 300 every hit even my friend said something is wrong with there gear... anyway the leader ended up saying I was the worst rdm he has ever seen and kickd me even tho I was doing the best i could to try to keep them alive... so post back and tell me wht u think of this...

No, you're not a bad RDM. You did the best that you could dealing in a sticky situation. Sounds like the THF had a massive link. You're fine.
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By Cerberus.Mindi 2010-03-07 15:14:01
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Your gear seem... okish for Ah gear i guess, but you should really make a Idle gear (if you dont have so far) which you equip after casting. It should consist of a Refresh Body and Earth Staff at minimum. So you have some extra mp-ticks and take atleast 20% less physical dmg. so if you get hate your SS last longer^^ (which i hope you had on, together with phalanx)

/whm in dynamis is nice when you need to mainheal.
you should never be /blm anyways. such a useless subjob for a RDM who mainheal. if you dont need erase /sch is nice, but /whm still wins cause of curaga and erase when you mainheal DD Pt's
Only reason to be /blm is, if the LS you go with uses RDM to Sleepga Mobs... which i dont like anyways... whats your BLM's doing then <.<? but well LS that still uses a PLD pt in dynamis will probably kill so slow that their BLM somehow have time to nuke Mobs after they killed stats. I would die to boredom when i would be BLM in dynamis and not mainsleeping everything lol.


Just realized the THF you had in your PT.... what was he doing? I really dont get how you could draw hate that often, i still say the LS you were with sucked bad.
THF can either be Puller or just TH-hitting-th-mob's and since the dynamis you were in seems very slow, sooo mobs skeep hitting PLD or on the RDm healing the PLD means they live long enough to do that = slow killing, weak DD whatever. Thf would have time to either collaborator you if needed or to TA a tank.
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By Cerberus.Bsphil 2010-03-07 16:07:41
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You couldn't cast reraise because they pulled right away?

I'm not saying the PLDs weren't at fault in some way, but everything about you screams "bad RDM". Don't get upset at the people who aren't telling you what you want to hear.

EDIT: Now that I see you've posted your gear, I notice that there's only one set. You've been playing for 4-5 years and the best you can do is swapping in dark staff for resting?

Yes, you are a bad RDM. Suck less.
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By Kujata.Argettio 2010-03-07 16:29:54
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IMO its a bad shell. But sounds like you weren't at your best (which would be understandable). You shouldn't have been put in that situation.

There should NEVER be more than 1-2 mobs a wake at any time. I don't care if you have RDM or BLM sleepers, they need to get their act together.

PLDs are mostly useless in city dynamis, after the first WS from a DD a PLD will lose hate.

You should have been able to hold your own, as a RDM you have the highest survivability of any job in the game. Stoneskin/phalanx/PDT/Protect etc with 2 sleeps, bind and gravity you are basically a 1 man holding party.

Personally as a RDM I prefer being a sleeper rather than a 'pink mage' (RDM/WHM and purely support), but thats personal.
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By Kujata.Daus 2010-03-07 16:49:54
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My ls brings plds for dynamis but not to tank mobs that DDs are fighting, but to hold mobs that are awake that the rest of the alliance havent gotten to yet or to hold extra statues the blms havent gotten to or just to voke incase something big does wake up.

In dynamises I generally go /whm unless we were low on sleepers, if in a pt with a whm or if told otherwise. I actually tend to like /whm more for whatever reason.
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By Kujata.Akeda 2010-03-07 17:54:28
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Avatan said:
post back and tell me wht u think of this...

I think paragraphs would help a lot. Proper spelling would be a nice bonus, but that might be asking too much.

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By Ifrit.Itazura 2010-03-08 06:55:12
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Kujata.Akeda said:
I think paragraphs would help a lot. Proper spelling would be a nice bonus, but that might be asking too much.
lol. Yes, please.


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Of topic, but those who say PLDs not useful for Dynamis, what is the general approach used? Merit party like setup? How do you deal with Hundred Fists?
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By Kujata.Argettio 2010-03-08 07:09:40
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Ifrit.Itazura said:
Of topic, but those who say PLDs not useful for Dynamis, what is the general approach used? Merit party like setup? How do you deal with Hundred Fists?

All a PLD does is build hate on slept mobs so that when they wake they don’t tear the sleepers (be it RDM or BLM) a new a-hole.

As long as your sleepers are competent then they can handle themselves, re-sleeping mobs before they get too beat up. This is why I prefer RDM, as they can hold/re-sleep mobs better while being attacked than a BLM (greater protection) and are more independent (can regenerate MP themselves).

Also BLM has another important job (statues) which take a lot of time on bigger pulls.

Once the melees engage and the first WS is used the PLD will lose hate and the mob will be bounced around by the melees as they WS, and should be dead in less than 30second (we are talking citys here).

So you can leave your PLDs behind, get and extra few DD, and kill faster, clear more mobs, get more drops.

100 Fists can be managed by the BLM if you are cautious, nuke sleep it until it pops its 2hr and then re-sleep it (some on note the time) and once it wears off have the melees engage. Or just man up and go for it (see the final point).

As with a lot in this game, the above only stands true if your group is good enough, in this case you need good sleepers and DD. If your DD take 2mins to kill a mob or your sleepers can’t handle the waking mobs (or a bit of both) then you will need plds.
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By Bahamut.Rienea 2010-03-08 07:10:08
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Kujata.Akeda said:
Of topic, but those who say PLDs not useful for Dynamis, what is the general approach used? Merit party like setup? How do you deal with Hundred Fists?

We only ever use PLDs for Xarcabard NMs. In cities we go with parties consisting of 4 DDs and 2 support (mage + BRD or COR). DD's bounce hate and the BLMs stun Hundred Fists. Usually things die too fast to do any major damage.
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By Ramuh.Kalyna 2010-03-08 07:15:00
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You're a RDM, you guys think you're healers but yer not. So until it's widely proven RDM can't be a main healer, you're the main healer and you're expected to:
Haste
Refresh
Sleepga
Cure the tanks
Convert when necessary
Keep your Reraise up (seriously, you didn't Reraise before the run?)
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By Cerberus.Mindi 2010-03-08 07:40:20
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Ifrit.Itazura said:
Of topic, but those who say PLDs not useful for Dynamis, what is the general approach used? Merit party like setup? How do you deal with Hundred Fists?

either have BLM/RDM/BRD/BLU spam sleep/stun/lullaby/headbutt until the MNK is death and beside that have competent melee who arent afraid to WS on HF... if all WS when he uses HF it will be death before he can hurt you.

or have BLM or RDM on 2hr duty, means Gravity > Nuke > Sleep repeat until it used 2hr. Just need to let your caller know when he can do the mnk

oh and about setup yea a few BLM with soem form of refresh; BRD's or COR in all PT's, WHM's mainly healing DD PTs (RDM we rarly use, they normally thrown into BLM PT(s) lol) and something to firstvoke (like a NIN or WAR) who is calling for Xar just need a few more bodys then in citys and a NIN or WAR can easy hold the NM's and sure ~2 RDM's cause of DL CSS^^
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-03-08 07:42:17
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Ramuh.Kalyna said:
You're a RDM, you guys think you're healers but yer not. So until it's widely proven RDM can't be a main healer, you're the main healer and you're expected to:
Haste
Refresh
Sleepga
Cure the tanks
Convert when necessary
Keep your Reraise up (seriously, you didn't Reraise before the run?)

Silly Kalyna, can't do both simultaneously :p
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By semimmortal 2010-03-08 07:47:03
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Ramuh.Tousou said:
Ramuh.Kalyna said:
You're a RDM, you guys think you're healers but yer not. So until it's widely proven RDM can't be a main healer, you're the main healer and you're expected to:
Haste
Refresh
Sleepga
Cure the tanks
Convert when necessary
Keep your Reraise up (seriously, you didn't Reraise before the run?)

Silly Kalyna, can't do both simultaneously :p
Reraise Gorget
Reraise Hairpin

Sorry, had to point at these sexy items (I miss my WHM partner... ; ;)
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By Cerberus.Mindi 2010-03-08 07:47:13
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Ramuh.Tousou said:
Ramuh.Kalyna said:
You're a RDM, you guys think you're healers but yer not. So until it's widely proven RDM can't be a main healer, you're the main healer and you're expected to:
Haste
Refresh
Sleepga
Cure the tanks
Convert when necessary
Keep your Reraise up (seriously, you didn't Reraise before the run?)

Silly Kalyna, can't do both simultaneously :p

RR Hairpin, Gorget, Earring Hi-Reraiser and so on is your friend; should never do Endgame events as a healer without a form of RR. (and yea, even DD's should have RR)
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By Ramuh.Kalyna 2010-03-08 07:47:31
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Ramuh.Tousou said:
Ramuh.Kalyna said:
You're a RDM, you guys think you're healers but yer not. So until it's widely proven RDM can't be a main healer, you're the main healer and you're expected to: Haste Refresh Sleepga Cure the tanks Convert when necessary Keep your Reraise up (seriously, you didn't Reraise before the run?)
Silly Kalyna, can't do both simultaneously :p
Lies :P

Why not reraise during pulls? it's all on timing.
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