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BLM Meteor
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-05 22:36:05
After convert I don't think my blm will ever /sch again. Well maybe campaign if they let me still do it and gain good exp for aspirga
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Caitsith.Neonracer
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2010-03-05 22:42:30
Blm/Rdm will just be more powerful then ever....
Nuff said.
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Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-05 22:48:35
Not as powerful as rdm/sch!!!
Gravity/bindga/sleepga. Refresh II. Phalanx that stops like 50 dmg a hit instead. Higher tier debuffs.
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2010-03-05 23:19:47
I was talking about Nuke Dmg... Ya, Rdm might be up for alot of Debuffing, but if you ever get busy converting or w.e on yourself or debuffing....
hehe...<knockin' on heaven's Door!> Lulz...
Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-05 23:21:17
Phoenix.Airbag said: incoming non elemental spell as to make dorje/mythic good for something? At that point I'd probably use alkalurops over dorje/mythic on anything hard when not ESing the spell.
Making up the 30 macc lost from the HQ staffs would be hard without it and would take alot of dmg slots. In fact might be just impossible on the stuff you would've had to gear more for acc anyways lol.
Plus it is actually realistic to get
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Bismarck.Rinako
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By Bismarck.Rinako 2010-03-05 23:47:58
Phoenix.Mikumaru said: Phoenix.Greiver said: Phoenix.Airbag said: You dont know anything about it yup i disagree . we know when Mobs like Behemoth and KB and AV use it everyone dies . Alot . It also seems to have a HUGE AoE . if anything it will lend some insight on its mechanics so we can better prepare for or nullify some/most of it's dmg . amiright?
Mijin Gakure is AOE when mobs use it. Watch SE say, "*** you BLM" and make Meteor single target for play'd characters :)
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Phoenix.Airbag
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-03-05 23:57:14
Ramuh.Dasva said: Phoenix.Airbag said: incoming non elemental spell as to make dorje/mythic good for something? At that point I'd probably use alkalurops over dorje/mythic on anything hard when not ESing the spell.
Making up the 30 macc lost from the HQ staffs would be hard without it and would take alot of dmg slots. In fact might be just impossible on the stuff you would've had to gear more for acc anyways lol.
Plus it is actually realistic to get
Idk about you but I'm going to spend a lot more time at lv85 and 99 *** up sky/sea mobs lol
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Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-06 04:11:40
Phoenix.Airbag said: Ramuh.Dasva said: Phoenix.Airbag said: incoming non elemental spell as to make dorje/mythic good for something? At that point I'd probably use alkalurops over dorje/mythic on anything hard when not ESing the spell.
Making up the 30 macc lost from the HQ staffs would be hard without it and would take alot of dmg slots. In fact might be just impossible on the stuff you would've had to gear more for acc anyways lol.
Plus it is actually realistic to get Idk about you but I'm going to spend a lot more time at lv85 and 99 *** up sky/sea mobs lol True. But still those are still gunna be uncommon items. Plus I think I'll take rdm there just to be funny. Maybe rdm/blu just to see if I can get dmg to 0 on them lol
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Siren.Talonn
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By Siren.Talonn 2010-03-06 04:37:49
Bismarck.Rinako said: Phoenix.Mikumaru said: Phoenix.Greiver said: Phoenix.Airbag said: You dont know anything about it yup i disagree . we know when Mobs like Behemoth and KB and AV use it everyone dies . Alot . It also seems to have a HUGE AoE . if anything it will lend some insight on its mechanics so we can better prepare for or nullify some/most of it's dmg . amiright?
Mijin Gakure is AOE when mobs use it. Watch SE say, "*** you BLM" and make Meteor single target for play'd characters :) hmmm, you have a point. But single target meteor is called Comet :\
And, FFXI meteor is Light-based (despite many beliefs) so it won't be non-elemental as mentioned in here already.
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2010-03-06 04:59:47
Cerberus.Ciecle said: Meteo (Aka: Meteor) has been several elementals in the past.
FFII[US]: Light Elemental
FFIII: Earth Elemental
FFIV: Non-Elemental
FFV: Gravity-Based(Not a specific Element.)
FFVI: Non-Elemental(Mob) Assumed to be Non-Elemental(PC)
FFVIII: Non-Elemental
FFIX: Non-Elemental
FFX: Non-Elemental
FFXII: Non-Elemental(or Aether)
By majority it is non-elemental.
It has a chance to be Light or Earth elemental... Really depends on how SE wants it to be calculated in the game when being casted by a blm.
yes
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By Kujata.Argettio 2010-03-06 05:02:11
Bismarck.Rinako said: Phoenix.Mikumaru said: Phoenix.Greiver said: Phoenix.Airbag said: You dont know anything about it yup i disagree . we know when Mobs like Behemoth and KB and AV use it everyone dies . Alot . It also seems to have a HUGE AoE . if anything it will lend some insight on its mechanics so we can better prepare for or nullify some/most of it's dmg . amiright?
Mijin Gakure is AOE when mobs use it. Watch SE say, "*** you BLM" and make Meteor single target for play'd characters :)
Meteor being single target would be a GOOD thing.
How many times have you genuinely been in a situation where a -GA spell is better than a single target? Its pretty rare. Generally speaking single target spells are infinitely more useful.
Although as it has been noted, Comet is the single target version of Meteor.
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Lakshmi.Kurenka
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By Lakshmi.Kurenka 2010-03-06 05:48:00
Sooo...Non~elemental magic = pimp your INT stats? BLM nukes have to rely upon 2 things: Elemental Magic skill & INT. If this is truely going to be "non~elemental" (perhaps rely some~what on dark magic skill?) it will be a matter of stacking up on as much INT as possible surely?
Then again...I could be talking nonsense..Who knows. @.@
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By Carbuncle.Rinomaru 2010-03-06 13:29:15
Garuda.Fullen said: No day bonus or MB chance, hell you cant even use staves so it's not gonna be great.
Personally im more interested in blm/sch Burst2ga
This is where the BLM that saved and saved and got Laevateinn will pay off.
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Bismarck.Rinako
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By Bismarck.Rinako 2010-03-27 17:13:53
So, what if SE makes Meteor use under 2hr only? Like SMN's new avatars?
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Kujata.Segaia
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By Kujata.Segaia 2010-03-27 17:26:14
Bismarck.Rinako said: So, what if SE makes Meteor use under 2hr only? Like SMN's new avatars?
Inbefore:
Cloudbreaker r/e
(Staff) All Races
DMG: 50 Delay: 402
"Meteor"
Lv. 75 BLM
Only obtainable by a large quest released with the Abyssea that even breaks the record of timesinking for the mythics. You heard it here first.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-03-27 19:20:21
If it's got a wide range and isn't single target, about the only thing it'll ever be used for is KS30.
As for elemental alignment, there's no use even trying to guess, past games are most likely to be different (flare has always been non-elemental if I recall) and even the fact that it's light based when mobs use it doesn't mean anything. There are a few blu spells that are a different element when mobs use them to when we get them, so there's no reason this will be any different.
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Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-27 19:24:17
Odin.Blazza said: If it's got a wide range and isn't single target, about the only thing it'll ever be used for is KS30. As for elemental alignment, there's no use even trying to guess, past games are most likely to be different (flare has always been non-elemental if I recall) and even the fact that it's light based when mobs use it doesn't mean anything. There are a few blu spells that are a different element when mobs use them to when we get them, so there's no reason this will be any different.
Assuming KSNM30 isn't "Lv 75 Cap".
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-03-27 19:28:55
Well, maybe it'll be ASNM 30 then :p (Abyssal Seal Notorious Monster)
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Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-27 19:31:42
Odin.Blazza said: Well, maybe it'll be ASNM 30 then :p (Abyssal Seal Notorious Monster)
Is that real or are you making ***up? >.>
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-03-27 19:39:19
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Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-27 19:40:15
Phoenix.Kojo said: Odin.Blazza said: Well, maybe it'll be ASNM 30 then :p (Abyssal Seal Notorious Monster) Is that real or are you making ***up? >.> Seems logical to me. After all Kseals drop off of lvl 50+ mobs...
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-27 19:41:10
Odin.Blazza said: made it up Sounds good, anyway.
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Lakshmi.Chilzen
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By Lakshmi.Chilzen 2010-03-28 01:30:11
Anyone else drop their expectations a lot after seeing how SE said PUP was getting A in H2H at VanaFest, and delievered a B+ rating?
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Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-03-28 01:57:10
Lakshmi.Chilzen said: Anyone else drop their expectations a lot after seeing how SE said PUP was getting A in H2H at VanaFest, and delievered a B rating?
I dropped my expectations after SE released CoP.
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Kujata.Segaia
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By Kujata.Segaia 2010-03-28 10:25:26
Odin.Blazza said: Well, maybe it'll be ASNM 30 then :p (Abyssal Seal Notorious Monster)
oh god prevent that from happening lol. Another point/item system XD
We might get awesome evolith tho: HP +5
Who wouldnt want their HP +5????
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-03-28 17:38:13
Kujata.Segaia said: Odin.Blazza said: Well, maybe it'll be ASNM 30 then :p (Abyssal Seal Notorious Monster)
oh god prevent that from happening lol. Another point/item system XD
We might get awesome evolith tho: HP 5
Who wouldnt want their HP 5???? I don't think it will happen, but it makes sense. BS's for low level mobs, KS's for high level mobs, now there's going to be even higher level mobs, so there's room for another. But like, we already have BCNM, KSNM, ENM, ANNM, ISNM, TNM, ZNM and now VNM (and I'm probably missing some), I'm sure the expansion will bring more of this (in fact I've seen a modelviewer vid of someone walking around a battlefield), but doesn't necessarily mean it will be in the form of seals.
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By Ragnarok.Inga 2010-03-28 17:40:27
It's probably going to have a gimic like odin and alex where you can only cast the spell during manafont and after you cast it once, manafont wears off.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-03-28 17:44:15
Or it'll cost so much MP that only tarus wearing full zenith can cast it.
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By Sylph.Sindri 2010-03-28 17:53:46
Odin.Blazza said: Or it'll cost so much MP that only tarus wearing full zenith can't cast it.
Fixed
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Ramuh.Dasva
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-03-28 19:01:29
That fix makes no sense
incoming non elemental spell as to make dorje/mythic good for something?
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