But... still im just saying don't say we're stupid for believing in God, and saying childish is just sugarcoating what you're trying to get across.
Religion is a choice, atheism is a choice. Stop bitching about the other, I'm not bitching about you being an atheist. I'm bitching about you bitching about religion bitching about you being an atheist and wanting to convert you. Read what I said to see what we're all doing <.<
Main Entry: imag·i·na·tion
Pronunciation: \i-ˌma-jə-ˈnā-shən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin imagination-, imaginatio, from imaginari
Date: 14th century
1 : the act or power of forming a mental image of something not present to the senses or never before wholly perceived in reality
2 a : creative ability b : ability to confront and deal with a problem : resourcefulness <use your imagination and get us out of here> c : the thinking or active mind : interest <stories that fired the imagination>
3 a : a creation of the mind; especially : an idealized or poetic creation b : fanciful or empty assumption
You can't prove that a god doesn't exist either. Nothing is absolute, in science or religion.
We can and have proved that the events of the bible are highly fictious. But really you got it backwards. If we had to prove everything impossible... well thats just silly. You can't prove Santa Claus doesn't exist so there!
You can't prove that a god doesn't exist either. Nothing is absolute, in science or religion.
We can and have proved that the events of the bible are highly fictious. But really you got it backwards. If we had to prove everything impossible... well thats just silly. You can't prove Santa Claus doesn't exist so there!
You can't prove that a god doesn't exist either. Nothing is absolute, in science or religion.
We can and have proved that the events of the bible are highly fictious. But really you got it backwards. If we had to prove everything impossible... well thats just silly. You can't prove Santa Claus doesn't exist so there!
Well, since he's supposed to live in the North Pole, technically if you could map the entire thing you could prove he's not there!
Unless the elves are hiding it with their magic, darn elves.
Edit: Where are the proofs that it's highly fictitious anyways?
Your opinion. You have no right to force it on others, but like I've been trying to keep too. You have a right to believe that as long as you aren't pushing to make your belief law. A few nations have tried that. It's called a dictatorship. I believe Hitler was a prime example of a leader in such a position.
Main Entry: imag·i·na·tion
Pronunciation: \i-ˌma-jə-ˈnā-shən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin imagination-, imaginatio, from imaginari
Date: 14th century
1 : the act or power of forming a mental image of something not present to the senses or never before wholly perceived in reality
2 a : creative ability b : ability to confront and deal with a problem : resourcefulness <use your imagination and get us out of here> c : the thinking or active mind : interest <stories that fired the imagination>
3 a : a creation of the mind; especially : an idealized or poetic creation b : fanciful or empty assumption
Off an online dictionary.
Imagination doesn't really mean the same thing as imaginary made especially clear with the other definitions but the first one sure sounds like religion to me
I started the thread in the "Politics and Religion" section of this website. Can you not make a connection between my topic, and the forum the thread is in lol?
You can't prove that a god doesn't exist either. Nothing is absolute, in science or religion.
We can and have proved that the events of the bible are highly fictious. But really you got it backwards. If we had to prove everything impossible... well thats just silly. You can't prove Santa Claus doesn't exist so there!
Well, since he's supposed to live in the North Pole, technically if you could map the entire thing you could prove he's not there! Unless the elves are hiding it with their magic, darn elves. Edit: Where are the proofs that it's highly fictitious anyways?
Have you never really researched it? Or read anything. Bah here is just a little
Your opinion. You have no right to force it on others, but like I've been trying to keep too. You have a right to believe that as long as you aren't pushing to make your belief law. A few nations have tried that. It's called a dictatorship. I believe Hitler was a prime example of a leader in such a position.
IM NOT FORCING MY BELIEFS ON YOU!
YOUR ACTUALLY FORCING THEM ON YOURSELF BY BEING HERE SO LONG.
Science can't prove anything, unless to those that accept it. Also I haven't stated any of my personal beliefs because it's not the point, but thanks for assuming.
Science can't prove anything, unless to those that accept it.
If by to those that accept it you mean those that accept what there senses tell them then sure. To those that actually accept what is in front of them science proves lots of things... that is the entire point of the scientific method proving ***
Your opinion. You have no right to force it on others, but like I've been trying to keep too. You have a right to believe that as long as you aren't pushing to make your belief law. A few nations have tried that. It's called a dictatorship. I believe Hitler was a prime example of a leader in such a position.
IM NOT FORCING MY BELIEFS ON YOU!
YOUR ACTUALLY FORCING THEM ON YOURSELF BY BEING HERE SO LONG.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I SAY.
DON'T *** READ IT..
Your thread calls for political action. I'm not forcing any of my personal beliefs on religion as I haven't stated them.
Have you never really researched it? Or read anything. Bah here is just a little
Actually can't say I've really bothered lately considering most things I've read weren't very... convincing. And I can't watch atm since I'm at work, lol.
IM NOT FORCING MY BELIEFS ON YOU! YOUR ACTUALLY FORCING THEM ON YOURSELF BY BEING HERE SO LONG. IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I SAY. DON'T *** READ IT..
Aren't you contradicting yourself? You're claiming others are forcing their beliefs on you just by being here. Which means the fact that you're still here means you're actually forcing your beliefs.
A lot of the people in this world believe we need to regulate drugs and guns to make this a safer place. I have a different insight. I think if you're going to regulate one thing that has the most potential to cause death and destruction, it should be religion. Religion is dangerous, and I don't say this out of bitterness. I was raised catholic. I was never molested, but.. Meh i'm a little insulted lol. I was attractive, so hey it was their loss.
What I have against religion is... They start you when you are so defensless. I was 3 years old when they started pumping this BS into my head. I believed in Santa Clause and the Fairy Godmother, ofcourse I believed in virgin birth, a guy that lived in a whale, and a woman came from a rib. But then, something very important happened to me that made me doubt all of it. I graduated the 6th grade :)
What is so hard about saying "I don't know" !?
Ofcourse there are questions that plaque all of us...
How did we get here?
What happens when we die?
Is there a heaven?
Am I on the list?
Who let the dogs out?
So why would you believe some other human being (Who's brain "I promise you is no bigger or better than your own") when he tells you he knows what happens when you die?
"Don't masturbate now, or you won't get to hang out with Jesus in heaven! How do I know!? I've got a pointy hat! I have a hat, and a robe, I have smoke and a wand!"... It's so gay.
Every Sunday is like a pageant with the costumes, the wands, the goblets, the smoke, and the men kneeling down in front of other men with their mouths open.. Nothing gay about that!
Religion, easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there is an invisible man living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of 10 things He does not want you to do. And if you do any of these 10 things, he has a special place full of fire, and smoke, and burning, and torture, and anguish, where he will send you to live to burn, and suffer, and choke, and scream, and cry forever and ever untill the end of time. BuT He LoVeS YoU <3 <3 <3 <3
He loves you and he always needs MONEY! He's all powerful, all perfect, all knowing, and all wise, but somehow he just can't handle money o.O!! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more $$$$$ Talk about a good bullshit story.. Holyshit!
This is Sincere: When it came to believing in god, I really tried. I wanted to believe that there was a god who created us in his own image, loves us very much, and keeps a close eye on things. I tried, but the longer you live, the more you look around, and the more you realize that something is ????d up:
(War Disease Death Destruction Hunger Filth Poverty Torture Crime)
This is not good work. If this is the best god can do, I am not impressed. A results like these do not belong on the resume of a supreme being. These are the results you would expect from an office temp with a bad attitude.
Between you and me... In any feasibly ran universe, this guy would have been out on his all powerful ass a long time ago. I say guy, because if there really is a god he has to be a man. No woman could or would ever ???? things up like this ^.^
If there is a god, I think that most reasonable people would agree that he is atleast incompetent, and maybe.. Just maybe.. He doesn't give a shit. Which I admire in a person, and it would explain a lot of these bad results. So instead of being just another mindless-religious robot, mindlessly.. Aimlessly.. Blindly believing that all of this is in the hands of some spooky incompitent father figure who doesn't give a shit, I decided to find something else to worship. Something I could actually count on...
I immidiatly thought of the sun. Overnight, just like that. I became a sun worshipper, but not overnight because you can't see the sun at night. But first thing the next morning....
Several reasons...
First of all, I can see the sun. (Unlike a few other gods I know). I'm big on that, if I can see something it kind of helps the credibility. So everyday I can see the sun as it gives me everything I need: Light, Heat, Food, Flowers in the Park, Reflections in the Lake, the occasional skin cancer but hey.. Atleast there are no crucifixions and setting people on fire simply because they don't agree with us.
Sun worshipping is simple. There are no mysteries, no miracles, no pageantry, noone asks for money, no songs to learn, and we don't have a building we gather together in once a week to compare clothing.
Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? Its god's will~? It will be done. Fine, but if it's god's will, he is going to do what he wants to anyway... Why the hell pray for it in the first place? Couldn't you just skip the paying, and just go straight to god's will?
I do believe prayers are answered though.. Maybe at a 50% rate! Half the time I get what I want. Half of the time I don't. Same as the four leaf clover, the horse shoe, the wishing well, the rabbit's foot, the mojo man, same as the voodoo lady that tells you fortune by squeezing a goat's testicle. It's all the same.. 50/50... So just pick your superstition, make a wish, and sit back and enjoy yourself.
And for those of you who look to the bible for moral lessons, and literary qualities... I'll suggest a few other stories for you... You might want to look at:
~The Three Little Pigs (It has a nice happy ending)
~Little Red Riding Hood (Although it has that X-rated part where the wolf actually eats the grandmother)
~Humpty Dumpty (All the king's horses, and all the king's men couldn't put humpty dumpty back together again. That's because there is no Humpty Dumpty, and there is no God.)