June 2025 Version Update

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i think sepo miss my name in the end but not miss that again xd

In my defense I didn't know people as stupid as Sepo existed.

Cant argue with that one lol

At one point in time, people used bidder to access the AH from anywhere in zone. In addition to that, you could spam the AH servers. I made the withdrawal diagram like 8 years ago ...but I caution you from implying that using bidder is safe without full validation. :|

I mean ... we've known about the whole Y axis toggle to cause monsters to warp on top of you since Omen, at least that's the first time I saw it used consistently. As long as the puller is sturdy enough, can pull entire segments in Dyna-D then teleport them for the big CC + BLU Cleaves.

I've been using //buy item 0/1 number for god knows how many years now man, not even near the auction house.

I highly doubt anyone has been getting pinched for bidder in the last decade unless:
-they spam purchases quicker than the game would normally allow
-they do bids away from the AH and get absolutely incredibly unlucky and a GM caught them in the act
-they did other more nefarious things and used that as an excuse, which is not getting pinched for bidder

I dont see SE pissing away subscription fees over that, FFXIAH's database estimates 85k characters, and a decent chunk of those are likely mules. I'm not gonna say no one in the history of FFXI has been banned for "making auction house bids nowhere near the auction house", but I will say anyone that has been banned for using bidder has more than just bidder on their rap sheet.

RE: the earlier parts of this conversation, I for one definitely did not know you could mess with your position and cause enemies to teleport on top of you. Had I known that, my opinions on this discussion would've been quite different.

That said, I don't think knowing a "trick" that someone who's never used your (widely used) cheating programs is a good bar to set for whether your information is novel.

He also mentioned "doing objectives nobody has thought of/heard of" which is...preposterous.

He said it required "a little effort" which is true, I guess...but only because Silmaril is playing the game for him. I mean, sure...I guess I hadn't considered that no effort would be required because you'd have all your characters playing themselves.

I was definitely wrong about how powerful the cheating tools are, though others knew all of his "secrets" so his OP is still hilarious and misguided. He also said that he had lots of special gearing ideas which included...using sphere MAB bodies, and using resist stun gear...? So I guess he's a secret genius and nobody could've pulled this off without his 9000 IQ plays.

What the hell does any of this have to do with the June 2025 Version Update?

Some idiots can't shut up.

Atleast you were one of the chosen few to get a shout out in his video

I only watched 30 seconds of it with the volume off (it was clear upon loading the video and the fustercluck UI it was going to be a mass-cheating video), so I didn't know this.

I miss Suph

I think B+ trolling by Aragan, not bad kiddo. Many pages of rustlin'

Just wanted to say thanks for posting this, I think this was really what I was looking for-- someone more knowledgable/experienced than me to critique, since I knew my methods were far from perfect. This post actually made me realize I could do a different approach to pulling and it's honestly been pretty wild the past few days. Just *** around and I already broke 140k, so I can see 150k-160k definitely being possible with some more organization now. The most interesting part is that it helped me find a way to actually cleave G and F consistently, which was something I never was able to figure out in the end despite wasting a lot of runs messing around in those sectors.

With the entirety of Sortie now open to cleaving, I'm pretty excited to see how far I can take this funny little optimization puzzle, at least for someone as easily amused as me. Guess I ended up having to resub afterall, if only for a little while longer. Cheers!

More reasons not to do Sortie, Thank you Sepo.

sepo The video is missing 20 minutes and no one knows what happened. If you can add it in any way, we appreciate it. Don't worry about the idiots here. They are just chatterboxes and they only steal information. No one can do your work they think its easy . It is difficult and heavy. All of these operations are done with great clear , speed and professionalism. It is almost impossible for others. They need to training on your method for months every day.

Video isn't missing anything. It's just sped-up x1.3
You are so hyped about it and you can't even notice that? XD

What an *** licker, get a room

Who is stealing, what are they stealing, and finally: are you implying that nobody else in this community contributes any information? Everyone except you and Sepo are just chatting, not actually discussing strategies for FFXI? Have you...looked at this forum before?


Who said it was easy...?


Poor use of "heavy", I think this is a translation issue but FYI, this is meaningless.


I think you're looking for "clarity" in place of clear, and also, I think "professionalism" is a bit of a strange term to use for a video game player. I'd also argue that breaking every single rule in the TOS and cheating your *** off isn't professional at all, even if we were to, generously, say that it's possible to apply that term to playing video games. Aside from the cheating, do you think that shitting anime pictures all over the video and jamming shitty music the whole time is professional?


I wonder why you think it's almost impossible for others? I'd say the hardest part of doing this run is throwing away your morals and deciding you don't care to play FFXI, but you'd rather make up your own game. The "gameplay" in this video is so far removed from FFXI as to be completely alien. The "game" he's playing is more akin to FFXII. The fact that he's AFK watching anime and/or "doing nyzul" in the middle of the run perfectly exemplifies how this video does not depict a person playing FFXI.


First off, you can't train "for months every day" because a day only has 24 hours in it, and a month is...significantly longer than 24 hours.

English aside though...see my earlier point. The reason people "can't do this" has nothing to do with this guy's "method" being difficult or his 9000 IQ, it has to do with the fact that (most) people don't abuse the *** out of the tools he used. Either because of morality or because they're afraid of losing their characters. It has absolutely nothing to do with the difficulty of this. He's literally AFK jerking off in the middle of this run, and you say it's impossibly difficult? I wonder what makes you think that. What kind of training would someone go through in order to do this run?

While I don't think he could set up the tako warp points or the Silmaril bot scripts, I do believe that Peanut Butter the dog could complete this Sortie run, if his owner helped with the prep.

is this like monkeys with typewriters and all the time in the world writing Shakespeare?

there are some similarities to speedruns in other games that look nothing like real gameplay because of all the cheats/glitches they use. to me this is the same thing. not at all to be confused with skill at the game played as intended, but a skill of its own nonetheless. there is an audience for this, otherwise GDQs wouldn't exist. quite evidently though, FFXIAH is not the place for it, especially when the guy did try to pretend it was mostly legit at first.

Going to disagree there.

Speedruns are only considered legitimate if they use strictly game mechanics and what is possible for anyone else to do with just the game and input devices. Some speedruns even consider turbo macros (pressing multiple buttons automatically via a macro or bound controller button) to be a cheat.

Let alone external third party programs specifically for doing things not allowed in the game.

On arcade machines speed runs are not legitimate unless you do it on an arcade using the official release of the game. There have been controversies about this too - look up donkey Kong world record controversy.

Nooo not again

Some speedruns uses glitches, some do not, and they are specifically categorized as such.

The closest to cheats would be TAS runs (tool assisted speedruns) and they are:
1-labeled as such
2-do not change anything within the core mechanics of the game the way this guy was using fleehacks and POSing around.

The only thing this guy did that was abusing glitches was adjusting his Y pos to teleport all the aggro to him. The only reason he was even able to make use of this glitch was because he was fleehacking and POSing across the maps to aggro as much as he could before everything deaggroed.

Yeah while rare, the concept of "all bets are off" style speedruns where hacking the game and etc is absolutely a thing, but usually its just for shits and giggles. You see this sorta stuff in pokemon communities, as an example. I will caveat that the "legit" speedruns are for sure considered to be far more impressive (understandably so, of course)

I definitely think that because sortie is specifically a "closed system" content (it doesnt drop anything you can sell to others), I don't care if someone wants to go nutso and try and break it and see how far they can push it. *** it, why not, go off and have fun lol.

Why won't this topic die... like dude is cheating, we all knew that and said as much from the start. That's not necessarily a bad thing per say, dude isn't better then anyone for cheating as such either. Of course they might need to be reminded to take their medication or go touch grass occasionally.

Everyone is waiting for new content and something better to talk about tbh, goes to show how starving everyone here is lol.

thank you for the correction, TAS is more appropriate for sure.