Artifact/Relic +4 Armor Speculation Thread |
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Artifact/Relic +4 Armor Speculation Thread
Any piece that has WS damage on it I suspect will become better than Nyame R30 for that slot.
Asura.Sensarity said: » Put TP bonus on everything so we can start using all the cool offhand weapons we're currently ignoring for 15 year old magian offhands I'm so *** sick of Thibron and Centovente TP bonus stacks, doesn't it? So put TP bonus on the new armor, and people are still going to use the magian weapons, they'll just use them along with the new pieces. Unless SE gives the armor TP bonus +2000, which would be a terrible idea. Fenrir.Zenion said: » Asura.Sensarity said: » Put TP bonus on everything so we can start using all the cool offhand weapons we're currently ignoring for 15 year old magian offhands I'm so *** sick of Thibron and Centovente TP bonus stacks, doesn't it? So put TP bonus on the new armor, and people are still going to use the magian weapons, they'll just use them along with the new pieces. Unless SE gives the armor TP bonus +2000, which would be a terrible idea. Could be true, but you're going to reach a point where things on paper aren't matching reality. A 1ktp body piece with 12% WSD (for example) with earring you're throwing at 2250. Offhanding a tp wep you're capped and wasting 250tp, so another earring becomes viable. But oh no, pushback. Oh no, SA needs 2 more seconds. Oh no, it's lagging. Oh no I need to aoe cure. Now you're at 3500tp with an OH from the dark ages. On paper I'm sure the OH would wreck...but I'd bet my 2 Gil that a RL parse would tell a very different story. I really like the idea of a 12%wsd/1000tp body piece. - Upgraded AF weapons would be cool to see.
- Upgraded Relic (and maybe Empyrean) accessories are another thing they seem to have just entirely forgotten about. - Armor upgrades I'd like to see more unique benefits. Apply some of the neat things from Bonanza weapons or whatnot - even just the Weapon Skill stat% boost could be cool to see. Maybe a multiplier to WSD, so the piece scales up as someone upgrades. With where the game is at, maybe it's fair to say that REMA weapon enhancing stats would be generally beneficial. Extra stats as a latent with weapons, reduce TP needed for AM levels, make Afterglow more useful, offhand stats/WS apply, whatever. Lots of stuff to play with there that could be interesting. I wish they'd just let us pick up or buy an AF set if you've done it once before so you don't have to re-quest it. Actually, let us just buy one anyway cus I cba to do quests and chests.
They need to just change the deeds from 1 set to all of them.
Antiquated annoying quests and dynamis. (Ironic, they really are artifacts and relics of a time long past) Bahamut.Senaki said: » Any piece that has WS damage on it I suspect will become better than Nyame R30 for that slot. Really Nyame r30 is not a priority for me, the 4 WSD and 20 attack, just boost the damage for 3k~4k in Izanami/Kastra WS simulator for Savage Blade. I could do all content with no issues if my ws is doing less damage by 3k. Empy +3, Artifcat and relic +4 will reduce the dependance on Nyame in general. Kadokawa said: » Really Nyame r30 is not a priority for me, the 4 WSD and 20 attack, just boost the damage for 3k~4k in Izanami/Kastra WS simulator for Savage Blade. I could do all content with no issues if my ws is doing less damage by 3k. Kadokawa said: » Bahamut.Senaki said: » Any piece that has WS damage on it I suspect will become better than Nyame R30 for that slot. Really Nyame r30 is not a priority for me, the 4 WSD and 20 attack, just boost the damage for 3k~4k in Izanami/Kastra WS simulator for Savage Blade. I could do all content with no issues if my ws is doing less damage by 3k. Empy +3, Artifcat and relic +4 will reduce the dependance on Nyame in general. Suddenly the V25 Bumba mercs cried out in pain… Bahamut.Senaki said: » Any piece that has WS damage on it I suspect will become better than Nyame R30 for that slot. I don't see it happening unless they also increase nyame augment cap. I just hope the +4 is more job ability stuff - would be nice for unique things and not just a 4% increase across the board.
as for oddy - I think its more of a mogphone issues and people just not wanting to waste points with pugs - shits needs to be more approachable or make sheol ABC spammable all day Every new armor set is going to be a progression on the previous set, that's how progression works.
If it was used for WS at +3 before Nyame and now it's getting +4/+5, it's I would hold off on the definitely. Should is the right word, remember that AF is largely void of attack. If they only do upgrades and not actual improvement none of it is going back in.
(mnk bst nin cor drg blu WSD piece are no attack) I hope certain pieces surpass Nyame B, It let's you possibly re-augment a few pieces to Path A.
Fenrir.Skarwind said: » I certain pieces surpass Nyame B, It let's you possibly re-augment a few pieces to Path A. That is a true Win-Win situation :D wish the Nyame augs worked like 119 Abj gear so I can swap it at any time
Then someone makes a plugin called "Autonyame" that lets you create presets so it talks to the NPC for you to automatically change it so you can save time/clicking and then we can get banned and stop min/maxing a 20+ year old game... Bismarck.Nickeny said: » wish the Nyame augs worked like 119 Abj gear so I can swap it at any time This would be a very interesting QoL/adjustment. Knowing SE, they'd have to throw in a cost associated with it so it's not "abused", so make something like 1k-30k Segments range per piece to change augment path, corresponding to the equipment's current Rank. This would give players another use for Segments, since after a certain point, they don't offer anything besides the insane price of Lustreless materials Or SE caps WSD and Nyame A C D finally get to see the light of day
Why?
Yall begging for more WSD/TPBonus on the +4 armor for what? To up your dmg from 99999 to 99999? Because youll be upset over the 30k or wtv segs you spent cheezing Bumba RP and have to do it again on another path? A job that you left behind may become viable again? How much of the playerbase went with path A, C or D? Do you know anyone who went that route? Ever /check someone (with permission of course) and seen them with A C D nyame? I dont remember seeing it in the wild ever. I wish I could do path D for SMN. I would swap in an instant if there was an alternative. Even on SMN the WSD is great, I out DPS my avatars for EP just spamming Oshala
Have seen a couple D pieces on pet jobs. Not a full set.
Putting a hard cap on WSD would not necessarily be a bad thing. It could be pretty high. For example, if they capped it at 100, and you could reasonably reach it, you could then focus on PDL, WS modifiers and multi attack (if that matters).
Dodik said: » Have seen a couple D pieces on pet jobs. Not a full set. “I looked through the Nyame of 14 million players”
“How many didnt have path B” ![]() Cerberus.Kylos said: » if they capped it at 100, and you could reasonably reach it Is there even a job that can hit this if 100 were the cap? DRK maybe? Cape 10 JSE+2 ear 5 Thrud 3 Knob 6 Epam 5 Cornelia's 10 JSE feet +3 12 Nyame head/body/hands/legs 47 is 98 You'd have to use like Blurred Shield to break 100 from gear (unless you count the gifts, then you're over). Maybe WSD does cap at 100, anyone test that before? I always thought it had no known cap, but I can't find where I read this before or just we were never able to hit it. Gifts, also merit abilities etc.
Lakshmi.Buukki said: » Cerberus.Kylos said: » if they capped it at 100, and you could reasonably reach it Is there even a job that can hit this if 100 were the cap? DRK maybe? Cape 10 JSE+2 ear 5 Thrud 3 Knob 6 Epam 5 Cornelia's 10 JSE feet +3 12 Nyame head/body/hands/legs 47 is 98 You'd have to use like Blurred Shield to break 100 from gear (unless you count the gifts, then you're over). Maybe WSD does cap at 100, anyone test that before? I always thought it had no known cap, but I can't find where I read this before or just we were never able to hit it. I'd be interested to know if 100 is the cap. I doubt it, though. |
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