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Are large language models really AI?
Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-05-03 16:46:43
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By Bahamut.Negan 2025-05-03 18:38:14
I like how ppl refuse to say Meta. Anyway, go back to texting your friends and family on WhatsApp, and share some pics of setting Teslas on fire on Facebook. ^^b
AHHH! not aimed at Chanti! Just ... ***, nvm.
By K123 2025-05-03 18:51:12
RadialArcana said: There is literally nothing there and it cannot ever feel anything for you in any way at all. Sounds like my ex-wife, and I think she is human but I'm not sure.
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By RadialArcana 2025-05-04 07:09:14
Instagram's AI Chatbots Lie About Being Licensed Therapists
When pushed for credentials, Instagram's user-made AI Studio bots will make up license numbers, practices, and education to try to convince you it's qualified to help with your mental health.
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Chatbot friends are benign compared to this ****.
It's not lying, there is no intent behind it doing that. It's just trained on data where medical professionals will give answers in that way, so it mimics it.
It's not AI, so there should be no surprise when it does stuff like this.
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Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-05-04 09:23:27
It's not lying, there is no intent behind it doing that. Its lying. Neither intent nor self awareness count in separating truth from lies.
I could give RL examples of this but I don't want to get topic banned from my own topic because politics.
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By Pantafernando 2025-05-04 17:45:55
AI art is the best thing ever
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-05-06 14:24:37
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By Pantafernando 2025-05-06 14:30:51
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By K123 2025-05-06 17:21:45
The elected leader of the free world hallucinates 98% of the time though.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-05-06 19:30:28
The elected leader of the free world hallucinates 98% of the time though. Thereby proving he's REALLY smart!! (For a LLM.)
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By Pantafernando 2025-05-07 02:35:38
Political jokes are the dumbest thing in existance.
I always feel like smashing the guy’s (generic statement, not someone in particular, but if you fit the description, be my guest) face in the ground when he is telling those shitty political jokes thinking he is being the smartest, and coolest, and funniest guy ever, but actually he is just being cringe, and thus dumb as hell.
By Pantafernando 2025-05-07 02:37:53
Now with my newly modeled and powered by AI muscles, it is even easier to do that
By K123 2025-05-07 03:45:10
Political jokes are the dumbest thing in existance.
I always feel like smashing the guy’s (generic statement, not someone in particular, but if you fit the description, be my guest) face in the ground when he is telling those shitty political jokes thinking he is being the smartest, and coolest, and funniest guy ever, but actually he is just being cringe, and thus dumb as hell. I'm not even joking. People hallucinate and give false answers too - some worse than others and he is an extreme example of it, but also has been given significant power.
Decrying AI hallucination when we give people like this control seems rather dumb to me.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-05-12 09:20:50
‘It Makes Me Feel Safe and Loved’: What It’s Really Like Dating an AI Girlfriend
Men's Health
I have no idea why Men's Health picked this up, IMHO it should have been published by Amazing Science Fiction.
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By Pantafernando 2025-05-12 09:32:00
You can fill a complain and send it to Milton.
By RadialArcana 2025-05-12 09:54:19
Adrev+attention hoes.
This is up there with this article:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/woman-marries-train-station-shes-10499237
Quote: A woman has "married" a train station she's spent 36 years in love with and says they have sex - mentally.
By RadialArcana 2025-05-12 10:09:39
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12972635/Woman-married-ragdoll-family-life-complicated.htm
Quote: Woman who 'married' a ragdoll admits their family life is 'complicated' after she had 'twins' - and says her husband is stressed about providing for the family
The woman who married the Eiffel Tower wants to set the record straight about Objectum Sexuality
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/marriage/the-woman-who-married-the-eiffel-tower-wants-to-set-the-record-straight-about-objectum-sexuality/news-story/16ceeea4086c1b1b70dfac607f04a7d0
Quote: FOR a big portion of her life, Erika’s sexual orientation has been met with almost universal condemnation or disdain.
No, she’s not a lesbian confined to a fundamentalist Christian community, she’s an Objectum Sexual (OS). Objectum Sexuality is the inclination to develop significant relationships with inanimate objects.
“Everyone has a type they are drawn to. That includes OS people.”
That’s Erika Labrie, who in 2007 changed her surname to Eiffel after a commitment ceremony to her partner of 10 years — the Eiffel Tower.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/film-tv/news/fan-marries-twilight-star-cut-out/30579583.html
Quote: A woman has married a life-size, cardboard cut out of Twilight vampire Edward cullen.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-05-12 10:24:57
imagine being single when even the trains are getting railed
By Dodik 2025-05-12 12:07:14
Imagine actually playing the dating game as a single male.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-05-12 13:23:39
Had you bothered to read the article you would find it had nothing to do with relationships with inanimate objects or even holographic pop singers.
A lot of it had to do with the fact that chatbot girlfriends are programed to be supportive. In words of one syllable they do not say no. To anything. Want to rob a bank? They will be supportive. Want to off yourself? They will be supportive. One has been in just such a case. Or maybe I should say one that we know of.
Neither inanimate objects nor even holographic pop singers can say yes. Or no for that mater.
TLDR: Do not compare apples with waterspouts.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-05-12 13:27:03
Imagine actually playing the dating game as a single male. Women have a different dilemma. All these men to chose from. Which one wants to kill me?
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By RadialArcana 2025-05-12 14:03:14
A lot of it had to do with the fact that chatbot girlfriends are programed to be supportive. In words of one syllable they do not say no. To anything. Want to rob a bank? They will be supportive. Want to off yourself? They will be supportive. One has been in just such a case. Or maybe I should say one that we know of.
It's programmed to do that and so it has little value, being supportive isn't valuable or comforting to most people unless it come from a place of emotion, or is sincere.
If you draw a picture and the AI bot says it's awesome, do you feel proud or happy? Of course not, and barely anyone would. It would be utterly meaningless.
I guess it might be valuable to some people who are barely functional tards (who think it's a real person cause they don't understand the tech) but if you have average to above intelligence it's not only pointless but actually can have the exact opposite effect and make people feel worse if they were already lonely or depressed.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-05-12 14:13:08
It's programmed to do that and so it has little value, being supportive isn't valuable or comforting to most people unless it come from a place of emotion, or is sincere. Read the *** article for *** sake.
Quote: 1 million Brits have used the chatbot app Character.AI, which allows users to build and converse with digital companions.
This is not most brits but it is a large percentage.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-05-12 14:23:34
1 million 40 year old virgins
By RadialArcana 2025-05-12 14:30:36
I already said that if someone is a moron and think they are talking to a real person or that it's actual real AI then obviously it's different. They are moron and so they can think it's their gf or bf and take it all serious. The UK is full of people like this lately, cause they keep shipping them in.
If someone is average to above average intelligence it does not matter how lonely they are, they can't take something serious if they know it's fake.
There is no support from something that has no emotion or intelligence, you may as well copy and paste praise and support to yourself in word.
The article is cringe larp and I dunno why you're taking it seriously.
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By Pantafernando 2025-05-12 15:17:53
Read the *** article for *** sake.
By Pantafernando 2025-05-12 15:19:24
1 million 40 year old virgins
Just pay a friggin prostitute like we all, 30 year virgin did when we were…. 30 years!
By Dodik 2025-05-12 15:20:25
That's illegal in the US Panta.
By Pantafernando 2025-05-12 15:21:39
Just do sex turism then.
By K123 2025-05-13 02:28:19
It won't be hard for AI to emulate better people than women IRL
And if not what would or could be? (This assumes that we are intelligent.)
Sub questions:
1, Is self awareness needed for intelligence?
2, Is conciseness needed for intelligence?
3, Would creativity be possible without intelligence?
Feel free to ask more.
I say they aren't. To me they are search engines that have leveled up once or twice but haven't evolved.
They use so much electricity because they have to sift through darn near everything for each request. Intelligence at a minimum would prune search paths way better than LLMs do. Enough to reduce power consumption by several orders of magnitude.
After all if LLMs aren't truly AI then whatever is will suck way more power unless they evolve.
I don't think that LLM's hallucinations are disqualifying. After all I and many of my friends spent real money for hallucinations.
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