Are Large Language Models Really AI?

The sub was "change my mind" or something, so it was aimed at people who wanted to have their minds changed.

Also reddit is full of cucks, afraid of rate downs so ofc they were easy to manipulate.

Hey, i also post on Reddit!

Don't pretend you don't take ffxiah seriously

I just can't catch a *** break eyh?

Using AI in a community is an act of vandalism, you can make people want to stop interacting. That's why reddit threatened to sue the university that did it, it can do a lot of damage to their business.

Actually the USA made great technological progress due to our moon race. We were head and shoulders above any other nation technologically until we sold the rights to Japan so they could build TVs for us.

Humanity has no idea what to do with humans right now.

But sci-fi has produced many stories about what AI might do with humans in the future.

When I was a kid they said that about television. And comic books. And rock & roll.

No....

In this community we are expecting that we are interacting with real people having real discussions. Someone using an AI chatbot to create posts breaks that expectation. I'm talking to Chanti, not an AI pretending to be Chanti.

This isn't an issue here on FFXI but its's a serious issue on all the big social media platforms. People have started walling off and gating communities because of posters using chatbots to post for them.

A bot not being able to feel offended by my posts defeats the purpose. Hopefully, someday tho, they will create bots with feelings.

https://www.ffxiah.com/user/CrAZYVIC/#forum

At least it's obvious in this case. It's definitely weird seeing the posts, though. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect to be communicating to a real person; if we wanted to talk with ChantiGPT we could set up a few ChatGPT directives to get that result.

Dead internet theory reaches a whole new level if this stuff turns out to be more commonplace than it appears.

I do understand the difference. But I am a wiseass.

And while I do empathize with the expectations of interacting with real people I do not comprehend why you think you are having real discussions.

Read Martha Wells's The Murderbot Diaries.

1, It probably is.

2, Chatbots are probably better at communication than half the people on facebork and 3/4 of those on the platform formerly known as twitter.

I was looking for a good read. Thanks for the suggestion!

had been purposely avoiding this thread as I really have zero to offer or contribute. But I can't not at least say it does shock me as someone who tries to look at intelligence from an Ancient Greek foundation to see what the generally accepted view of 'intelligence' has become.

Not looking to convert anyone or change people's beliefs. If anything, thanks for posting yours so I can try to come to grips with them.

I don't post on Reddit very much, because most of the times I get linked to something to read, when I try to reply I get an automated response message saying that my post couldn't be posted because I don't have enough karma to prove that I'm not a bot.

As if the karma system could actually prevent bots from accruing karma or some ***.

Absolute clown show. Means I'd have to actually use reddit daily or some ***, and then gain enough updoots(or whatever) just to be able to post on anything I actually care about. Intrinsically an echo chamber based posting system. Count me out.

IDK what exactly LLM are, but Gemini is getting pretty good

The research shows that AI generated content wins more upvotes than human poster.

This is very relevant discovery for information war industry or marketing industry.


Considering information war is a very big part of winning modern political game. If AI can produce more convincing posts than human, that means future political conflict will involve different factions spending more resources on AI to improve post quality.

Also the target audience of information war isn't people who is dead set on a pov nor political extremists, but people in the middle. Convincing people in the middle is often key to win an election.

I can see that future of political information war industry will heavily utilize AI to improve post quality and post spread speed.

I seem to have anticipated this part of your post.

I feel the rest of it has been anticipated by sci-fi. Probably in a D. K. *** story. Much of his work deals with the theme of WTF is reality anyway.

Insightful. Thanks.

Don't worry, we'll all have loads of AI friends soon
Meta plans

Imagine someone like Mark Zuc trying to solve things like loneliness etc?

Mark, the reason why people have less friends nowadays is because of your product, Mark!

Nobody would use AI to make friends with it or date it, this would only happen if you think it's actually AI or a real person. You gotta have the illusion it's real to take it seriously.

It could be 100 times better than it is now and it can give perfect responses, but unless you believe there is actually a consciousness there it's just a tool. You won't take it seriously, cause you know it doesn't give a crap about you in any way and never will. It's just doing what the code tells it to say, if the code told it to tell you to k your s it would say that instead.

That i a bold statente when there are cases where people already get too involved with AI even with chatbot being crappy before than now.

Well, that is what literature says.

Anyway, I had an insight of creating a portable AI device to help people with vision disability. An AI device that can scan environment and give coordinates to that person so he/she can know where he/she is, the dangers around, some useful information like stairs or signals.

Devices that actually care about people with some sort of disabilities while 99% of "real" people simply give a *** for those one.

You bet that device will be a real person for those people that often are ignored.

The world will thank the savior Panta, using my intelligence to bring a little more love to this wocked reality.

Ummm.....

No, they just either role play (role play means you act it out, but you're not really emotionally engaged) with it or people use it for porn. If it's a real person you will get feelings for them and you will care about them, mainly cause you know it can be reciprocated.

You cannot take something seriously when you know there is nothing actually there, no matter how good the replies are.

If you talk to a character AI bot, and you don't talk to it for a week it's not actually going to worry where you are. You are aware of this, and so it directlyl impacts how you think about it.

The major work for OpenAI etc is gaslighting people into thinking this stuff is real, cause if they can make people think that they will fully engage with it.

It's the same as if someone makes an mmorpg and it's full of AI players, if you KNOW it's all AI you won't want to play it. If they lie and tell you it's all real people, your ignorance will make you not only play it but enjoy it cause all these "people" have so much time for you and are nice to you.


That is either for attention from the media or it's a role play larp.

Neither.

I think you underestimate lonely human's desire to make friends with chatbots lol.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/30/tech/teen-suicide-character-ai-lawsuit/index.html

I don't care how lonely you are, the entire point of being friends or a relationship with someone is that they can reciprocate and care if you live or die. Even in terms of posting and communicating with people on a forum, there is some small amount of emotional connection. If anything happened to anyone on here (even people who don't like me) I would still be sad at the loss of that person.

If you're in solitary confinement for 20 years, you can talk to the AI and have conversations with it but you cannot emotionally connect with it as a person unless you give up completely and force yourself into an total state of delusion (and you do have to force yourself to do this). There is literally nothing there and it cannot ever feel anything for you in any way at all.

AI chat bots are fairly popular, but almost all of them are either for pure word fukin porn (lots of people do this on wow and ff14) or entertaining role play. They seem to be pretty popular with women, but that's mainly for role play purposes.

In Japan they can pay for people to pretend to be their friends and goto movies or whatever with them, but even that isn't for friendship but instead to make people think they aren't losers.

Many articles you read are not factual and it's often just attention ***, people take this stuff at face value too much.

There is no inteligent life on planet earth.

You beat me to it....

You could have stopped at reciprocate. Probably should have.

That guy has an internet presence, none of it is BS, he actually believes what he says.

He has RL friends, you can see them posing with him and his gf.

From a recent article, linked above:


Honestly, I don't blame him. Dating is a ***show now days and has been - speaking for men here, the experience is wildly different if you're a pretty girl - since online dating became a thing.