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Share your DRK Sortie optimization routines here!
Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-01-20 20:07:43
I can say with 100% certainty that BRD benefits from Aria on Sortie basement bosses. I've been doing Sortie on BRD nearly every day since Sortie came out, including with and without Aria.
My WS peak before Aria was in the 60k range, with Aria I've hit 93k or higher. I've never hit 99,999 on BRD in Sortie though, idk what that's about. Maybe bolster on an upstairs boss? Idk.
edit: oh, ironically it might be a BRD with the PDL TVR ring. I use Cornelia's. I'm sure I'm attack capped and using all the PDL I can on BRD, but there are only so many places to get PDL. Actually...I don't use Bunzi body but that seems like an awful idea.
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Phoenix.Iocus
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By Phoenix.Iocus 2025-01-20 21:26:01
You bring your own attack buffs. PDL ring isn't a terrible choice. Extra acc on it isn't going to hurt either.
Gear up Drk, they said, it's great in Sortie, they said..
..if you have already done enough Sortie to get 7M muffins to spend gearing up Drk.
Hopefully you want the DRK weapons after sortie, otherwise yeah that's not a great situation. To be fair they say a lot of things and they are only right for themselves some of the time. Imagine how wrong they are for people they don't even think about.
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By Ragnarok.Lockethedark 2025-08-06 12:36:34
This thread has a lot of helpful information.
One thing I'll add: Don't use Last Resort against Gartell (and Leshonn too) if you don't have a dedicated tank. It pains me, as a DRK main, to say this but yeah.
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By Galkapryme 2025-08-09 21:55:05
I'm genuinely curious about the efficacy of DRK in a 9-boss run. I sometimes wonder if the "You have to have these jobs" argument are only prevalent because not much effort gets put into trying other strats once one or two are determined to work. I'd personally love to see what a DRK/DRG could do on Aminon. I'd expect the fight to take longer; but I'm still curious.
Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2025-08-09 22:12:24
We used DRK for months/years before the DNC idea came out. It is definitely slower, by a significant margin. DRK meta also essentially requires Foenaria to keep MP up, which is a major disadvantage.
Losing box/quickstep, haste samba, and jig is just too much, and the DRK brings very little, if anything, to the table to replace it.
It's...fine...you can probably get a 9 boss with it, but it's simply an inferior version of the same strat. There's no reason to do it except if your group can't accommodate the DNC, or if you're just doing it for funsies. If you're doing inefficient stuff for entertainment then go for it, nobody's going to stop you.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-08-09 22:15:39
I sometimes wonder if the "You have to have these jobs" argument are only prevalent because not much effort gets put into trying other strats once one or two are determined to work.
Wonder? That's what "meta" in video games means. The "best" current strategy, which often stifles creativity by others because why bother doing it another way if it can be done better that way (translation: im too lazy to think for myself).
There's multiple ways to make a monster's HP reach 0. The issue is convincing 5 other people to do it your way because the idea sounded good in your head and should work. BTW, drk/drg is a current strat that replaces dnc, that is nothing new. Just youtube aminon videos, there's a almost half dozen strats that aren't even using the current setup.
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By Kadokawa 2025-08-10 03:56:51
DRK > all DDs in Sortie. No DRk No Amonion Cheese, you ungrateful ***.
By SimonSes 2025-08-10 05:01:44
Ragnarok.Lockethedark said: »This thread has a lot of helpful information.
One thing I'll add: Don't use Last Resort against Gartell (and Leshonn too) if you don't have a dedicated tank. It pains me, as a DRK main, to say this but yeah.
Just mb Drain III some elemental on the way and go in with 9999hp
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Hey fellow edgelords, I'm a fresh returner who got into a pretty casual Sortie static in the last 3 weeks, doing ABCDGE daily for now.
I usually main heal but tbh since we often end up /yelling for DDs (and we often get DDs that get outdps'd by our RDM ffs), I wanna start bringing my DRK instead, but i wanna make sure i do the "homeworks" before doing so.
My DRK got Calad, Anguta, Loxotic+1, Naegling and Apoc for now as weapons, with pretty decent overall gear (still far from the absolute BiS, but good enough for 6-7+ Sortie Bosses).
The thing is, I won't have the luxury to be a random pug member who just casually joins the runs to learn and experience the content (while fucking up our runs by popping wrong WSs and skillchains on the wrong bosses basically 50% of the time), or to practice various optimization routines which would improve the overall DRK performance, so I figured i'd ask in here to hopefully gather valuable knowledge and infos about DRK optimization routines (and general knowledge for DRKs within Sortie).
Yes, i know that if i spent a lot of time like a detective within this forum i'd probably find such infos scattered through a bajillion of posts, but tbh I thought that maybe by having such scattered infos n knowledge united into a single post, it could help many returners/fresh DRKs getting into Sortie properly to improve their overall performance.
That being said, these are the things that I'd like to know:
- Which Great Sword weaponskills can we use on each Boss?? (I know there's a spreadsheet mentioning various WS for each boss, but the one i found only mentions Scythe WS for some reasons)
- Would using the Skillchains addon to avoid skillchains while still using Torcleaver (like WSing right after a WS) or other strong WS be a reasonable option sometimes? In an ideal scenario i think it could work, but for this specific group I fear it wouldn't be the case (as the overall attitude towards optimizations is pretty poor).
- This group does not split up for objectives yet, in general what are your routines at the various A B C D objectives??
- Which mobs can you use as Absorbs/Drain fodder in the various sectors to maybe prebuff a bit more right before you go up to a boss?
- For the 4 step objective, can i do like Insurgency>Entropy>Cross Reaper>Quietus or would that obliterate the fomor too early? If so, what kind of weapon/setup/skillchain you do for that objective as DRK??
- Which Bosses are susceptible to which DRK spells? (likely to avoid trying to use an absorb or drain off an NM just for it to be resisted)
- What about JA use optimization, do you try to optimize Scarlet Delirium? If so, when do you usually pop it vs the various bosses? are there Arcana type mobs to take advantage of Arcane crest/circle during Sortie at all?
- Is Soul Enslavement + Asylum (when SE is about to wear off) vs F Boss the right play?
- Regarding Drain III placements, when do you usually place your drain III and do you go for MBing it everytime with chainbound from af gloves + insurgency, or do you just DS+NV it?
- I don't have Crep Cloak yet (also for what this group does, it's not needed yet) but I guess ideally a good Occult Acumen Impact set would be amazing to fit into DRK routine VS all bosses?
- Do you ever wanna Stun anything in particular vs Bosses?
- Finally what's your preferred subjob usually? /SAM or /DRG? I'd think /SAM to be the way to go, but maybe there can be a case for /DRG as well sometimes?? (i usually /DRG for dyna W3 for hate management mostly)
One last question which is not directly related to DRK, (but i've seen WARs often doing it in Sortie...) why Warcry prepull?
Unless i'm missing something, i'm pretty sure they're not gaining an extra usage of Warcry like that as fights do not last long enough, so everytime I see a WAR popping Warcry few seconds before people even engage, I can only think "what a waste".
Wouldn't technically be much better to pop Warcry few seconds after you engage? At least ppl would already have TPs to use as opposed to wasting precious Warcry uptime to run in, engage, build tp (even worse for DD in need of 3k for aftermath), and only then WS. Unless i'm missing something, it just feels wrong to use Warcry prepull like that.
Thanks in advance to those who will bring valuable knowledge to this topic!
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