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By K123 2025-01-07 13:03:16
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2nd link is exactly what I wrote.... You can alleviate anxiety (a result of ASD) but this is not alleviating the symptoms which medically define ASD. Thanks for posting links to prove my point.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-01-07 13:09:16
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K123 said: »
Don't you have a fetish for being urinated on by women? That's what people from Leviathan say. If so, that is Fetishist Disorder and apparently disorders are mental illnesses according to you so are you mentally ill?
Yes, at one point in time I had that fetish. I would consider it a behavioral disorder, and probably borders on mental illness. I don't still find it interesting; I suspect that exposure to pornography was a contributor and without that in my life I am more interested in 'vanilla' sex acts. It's also somewhat personal, and while I don't feel ashamed to acknowledge it, I feel like you were using it as an attack. At least it's somewhat in the nature of the thread, IG?

I'm also most likely on the autism spectrum, though I haven't been formally diagnosed. So, when I called that a mental illness, I was already acknowledging a personal mental illness. I am not ashamed to have a 'mental illness', any more than I'm ashamed to have an autoimmune condition. But, self-use of CBT and consistant diet have helped me substantially in many aspects of life. Obviously, this presents a clear bias.

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You can't treat social behaviours, communication, or emotional reciprocity, this is as bad as the claims above.
This seems like you're suggesting social skills are immutable, and it's impossible to improve them. I'm not entirely sure why you would believe that, but you're conflating a lack of evidence of efficacy with evidence of inefficacy.
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By K123 2025-01-07 14:11:10
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I'm autistic so your comment is equally as insulting to me. Just seeing how consistent you are with that disorder=mentally ill line.

Nearly everyone still playing FFXI or that did for years after it died down meets one of the three criteria for ASD diagnosis. Of repetitive behaviours. Must see also unable to socialise in normal life hence resorted to mmo.

Poor social skills are cognitive and deeply engrained. It's not about "skill".
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By Lili 2025-01-07 14:11:28
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
If you really want to get into it, I'd probably argue that autism is

a prerequisite to be able to login and argue on a forum dedicated to a japanese clothes collecting online videogame!
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By Shichishito 2025-01-07 14:13:26
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Hol-ly smokes, ya'll do keep track records of one another.
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-01-07 14:18:27
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Cerberus.Ephexis said: »
Damn, 2009. I wonder what dumb ***I did or said back then.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-01-07 14:22:43
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Shichishito said: »
Hol-ly smokes, ya'll do keep track records of one another.

If you use the same chat tools for long enough, it's not hard to find records of old things. You end up with a lot of screenshots and images sent back and forth, I doubt it was all keeping a blackmail file somewhere.
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2025-01-07 14:26:54
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K123 said: »
Poor social skills are cognitive and deeply engrained. It's not about "skill".
Your's definitely are and you clearly have no desire to improve them. You would rather use a simple excuse to evade personal responsibility.
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By Felgarr 2025-01-07 14:31:12
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Wow, I've really outdone myself with this thread...

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By K123 2025-01-07 14:34:36
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Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
K123 said: »
Poor social skills are cognitive and deeply engrained. It's not about "skill".
Your's definitely are and you clearly have no desire to improve them. You would rather use a simple excuse to evade personal responsibility.
Who are you? Oh, are you one of those people that got butthurt over something I was right about so want to attack me in a completely unrelated thread? Oh ok.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-01-07 14:48:02
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K123 said: »
'm autistic so your comment is equally as insulting to me.

I apologize for any insult I may have given with that comment; it was not intended to demean anyone. I understand that different people can view terminology differently, and there are negative connotations to the word 'illness' that I had not considered.

I don't think the rest is really worth arguing about, I cannot substantiate my opinion with credible studies so I should probably not have stated it in the manner I did. Personally, I have found that utilizing CBT and eating a consistent diet have reduced my 'symptoms' immensely. That may be observation bias, general mental health improvement, or something else; please don't take it as more than an anecdote.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2025-01-07 14:48:22
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Next you will be telling me that you keep high resolution photos of your enemy's feet for black mail purposes.
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By Shichishito 2025-01-07 15:00:00
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Fenrir.Skarwind said: »
Next you will be telling me that you keep high resolution photos of your enemy's feet for black mail purposes.
That'd be sole crushing.

So does CBT cure my tisms or should I cancel the appointment?
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By K123 2025-01-07 15:02:14
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Shiva.Thorny said: »
K123 said: »
'm autistic so your comment is equally as insulting to me.

I apologize for any insult I may have given with that comment; it was not intended to demean anyone. I understand that different people can view terminology differently, and there are negative connotations to the word 'illness' that I had not considered.

I don't think the rest is really worth arguing about, I cannot substantiate my opinion with credible studies so I should probably not have stated it in the manner I did. Personally, I have found that utilizing CBT and eating a consistent diet have reduced my 'symptoms' immensely. That may be observation bias, general mental health improvement, or something else; please don't take it as more than an anecdote.
The diagnosis of autism is based on three things.
1 is restricted and repetitive behaviours. I don't think CBT helps with that, but it seems unlikely.
2 is communication. When you have ASD you often don't verbally say what you think in your head. It comes out completely differently when you say it, or the tone is wrong, or you use the wrong words, or you can't get people to understand what you're trying to express. CBT can't help with this, it is hard wired.
3 is social norms and interactions. For me this manifests heavily as an inability to see people in social hierarchical tiers or tow any lines someone should arguably toe. I will happily agree with students if they raise legitimate concerns even though this is apparently wrong and I should pretend things are fine to defend the position of my employer. If I think a colleague is doing something wrong I can often find myself saying so without being able to consider the inappropriateness of doing so. You can't change this, it is hard wired and engrained.

You can be more conscious of your difference and try to shut up and act normal but this causes burn out, anxiety and depression. Which make expression of ASD traits worse arguably, hence they push one another down a spiral.

CBT might help in that regard, that if you are less anxious and depressed you aren't as bad at expressing ASD traits. But the issues themselves are hard coded and deeply engrained. You absolutely cannot treat them.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-07 15:09:09
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What I want to write in my work email: “no you *** r/tard we cant let controlled goods kept on our network be publicly accessible off the vpn, youre a *** idiot for even suggesting such a stupid idiotic thing”
What I wind up saying: “access through vpn is a security policy we must adhere to, thank you for understanding”

Am I an autism?
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-01-07 15:15:08
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K123 said: »
1 is restricted and repetitive behaviours. I don't think CBT helps with that, but it seems unlikely.
I had restrictive food intake to the point that I didn't even try chicken until I was almost 20. CBT made me comfortable eating anything; I ate fugu and uni in Japan a couple years ago. Had street food in South America. No longer uncomfortable with anything commonly seen in the US, though I'd still hesitate to try things like haggis or head cheese. Would say that CBT worked for me.

I've also used it to quit spending any time on FFXI that isn't directly useful, and I avoided replacing that with a different time waste(such as TV, doomscrolling, etc..) by reminding myself to consider the benefits of what I'm doing anytime I am doing an activity for longer than a few minutes.

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2 is communication. When you have ASD you often don't verbally say what you think in your head. It comes out completely differently when you say it, or the tone is wrong, or you use the wrong words, or you can't get people to understand what you're trying to express. CBT can't help with this, it is hard wired.
This is an extremely vague description. Are you saying that people with autism are completely and utterly unable to formulate words mentally prior to saying them? If that's the case, you'd be undeniably correct(and I guess I don't have it). But, communication in general is a skill that is developed with use; I have a hard time believing that CBT cannot be used to improve it.

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3 is social norms and interactions. For me this manifests heavily as an inability to see people in social hierarchical tiers or tow any lines someone should arguably toe. I will happily agree with students if they raise legitimate concerns even though this is apparently wrong and I should pretend things are fine to defend the position of my employer. If I think a colleague is doing something wrong I can often find myself saying so without being able to consider the inappropriateness of doing so. You can't change this, it is hard wired and engrained.
This one's definitely the most prevalent for me, but I feel like you're assigning a degree of determinism to behaviors you have free will over. You cannot control having the impulse to break social norms, but you can condition yourself to consider the consequences of your actions and adjust accordingly(like Nynja's example). Suppose that would fall under masking and potentially lead to burnout; so this one probably falls under your comment about resolving it by reducing anxiety.
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By Kaffy 2025-01-07 15:21:16
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Never been officially diagnosed, but there is Autism-Spectrum Quotient (AQ) tests online you can take yourself, and I scored fairly high on it. I think a lot of what people throw around when using retard or autist as insults only captures the most severe cases. There are many, many high functioning people with some degree of autism. I don't much care for labels on my own mental health issues, but some find it helpful to understand why they think and feel the way they do.

By the way, not at all surprised that people here speak out about it, awkward social interactions was a huge part of this thread well before the topic of autism was ever brought up.
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By K123 2025-01-07 15:25:10
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1. That sounds bizarre and it just sounds like you had a psychological issue you convinced your brain was cured by CBT. Restricted behaviours definitely extends to food but it's also common for people not to like many foods until adulthood so it's not a good example. Logging onto FFXI every day and doing the same events each day rather than playing a variety of video games is a better example.

2. Not saying that. I mean you often accidentally substitute words unconsciously. An example I'll never forget is when I first started my current job and I saw someone I knew from before I was there but they're from another school. In my brain I thought to say "I'm surprised to see you here, you're not based here are you?" But instead I said "I'm surprised to see you here, you don't belong here do you?" So kind of the same meaning, but the context is significantly different.

3. You cannot control the way you deeply innately feel. You can try to control it but that causes you to burn out. It's very exhausting. Causes me a lot of trouble at work and I haven't disclosed to most people so it's very hard.
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By Setsuko 2025-01-07 17:59:06
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Just coming in bc I saw this and it bothered me. I assessed autism in children for a decade as well as being autistic af myself. Autism is in no way a "mental illness." It is a neurodevelopmental disorder that is present from birth and present for life. Please do not think of your diagnosis as a mental illness as it is absolutely not at all.

Because of autism, we do end up with a lot of anxiety/depression/other issues. THAT part would be mental illness and treatable, just to clarify. However, autism itself is our brains, simply put, processing things differently than neurotypical individuals.
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By Asura.Dexprozius 2025-01-07 18:12:25
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Post in the "Whats your secret" thread. It'll be fun they said.

>>> AUTISM
>>> AUTISM
>>> AUTISM
>>> YOU ARE AUTISM
>>> WHAT IS AN AUTISM
>>> AUTISTIC AF

Welp, this is fine
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By Asura.Hya 2025-01-07 18:20:44
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The internet was a mistake.
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By Asura.Aquatiq 2025-01-07 19:02:38
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I won a roll on Tartarus mail over a guy initiating a chain of events including him crashing out, deleting a heavily geared shared LS alt, and ultimately dying IRL.
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By Asura.Clintbeastwood 2025-01-07 19:34:39
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Asura.Hya said: »
The internet was a mistake.

Hya Hya!
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By Cerberus.Ephexis 2025-01-07 21:06:27
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Probably 7 or 8 years back, after original leaders started spending less time in game, I ended up taking over leading a few events for an LS I was in at the time. That morphed into handling things like recruitment/schedules etc, the things other sacks didn't really want to do. A few years in, someone was brought into the group who was incredibly disruptive to a lot of the older players. I had seen it also, and spoke privately to them about things. Unfortunately, one of the other sacks was too blinded by this person's *** to allow them to see the issues being caused. This ended up causing a split in the group.

Hounds/Ephexis, stop acting like you're the hero of this story. You are the reason that linkshell didn't work and subsequentally the reason why your second linkshell bbroke up and then had to leave the server, you are one of the worst people and players I have ever interacted with.

The reason the linkshell broke is because you are an incredibly toxic person and ruined every event with your hatred/toxic behaviour.

You were obsessed with farming dynamis and you were the only person fixated on this, during these runs that you forced* on members. During these runs you made them obsoletely miserable, constantly screaming at any player for any reason you could think of (I remember one time when you were hysterically screaming for 15 minutes because someone weaponskilled a mob before you hit it and you ended up yelling at the wrong person!...and you never apologised.

*I stated 'forced' here as if you were online during dynamis times, he would instantly kick you. (I was kicked for AFK bazaaring in PJ during dynamis even after I notified the leaders I wouldn't be on.

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Majority of people came with myself to a new shell, but the other sacks grouped together to just lowman static, as was becoming the style. One in particular had been pretty two-faced over the entire thing.
This part did make me chuckle, the majority of players didn't go with you- a few look pearls from both linkshells but primarily played with us and always complained about how toxic the culture was in your linkshell.

There were multiple occasions when I joined a discord call and some of the members who joined your linkshell, there was nothing but hatred towards other members and blatant sexism and anger towards women/LGBT being able to advance in society (especially when a lady was promoted instead of you). I actually left the linkshell beofe the break as the sexism/homophobia within Hounds/his gang continued. As this happened primarilly on voice and most of you are not stupid enough to document your sexism/homophobia, but I have found one screenshot of one of the people who you decided would be a leader in your newly formed linkshell despite being aware of the below screenshot.



If this is the behaviour of a person that you choose to keep around AND promote to a leadership position, it says a lot about you.

As to the person you claimed is the catalyst of the break, she was not disruptive in any way, you just took a diislike to her for whatever reason you made up in your head. She never left because "they could no longer get what they needed", they were forced to quit as her home country was directly involved with a major global conflict (nice try on trying to spin this though but you should check facts before spewing nonsense).

Hounds, I really hoped that you got over this situation and started being more responsible for yourself and your actions. You need to seek help and find someone to help deal with all the hate that you still hold and stop surrounding yourself with people filled with the same hatred or these situations will continually arise for you and your hatred for everything will just keep growing.

Couple points:

- Original LS lead in the time you were there, Alphinaud, did discuss with me frequently how you would only ever show up for Bumba RP when Odyssey was brand new. Didn't partake in anything else with the LS.

Nobody was ever kicked from the LS for being idle/afk at that time. It had been a long standing thing, even going back to the Ponto era, where there was that expectation. You get out what you put in. What was observed with yourself though was you running the same events separately, at the same time. People were rightly annoyed by that, especially when you then tried to weasel into the 6 man content.



If the people who came over complained about it being toxic, and had the option of running with that old group for events, why didn't they? In the time I had the breakaway LS running, I barely had any personnel turnover. I should also note, considering you claim I was the only person fixated on this, that the old group that didn't join me continued to do those runs at the same event time as my new group for over a year afterwards.

Worth also pointing out, Celgane was never a sackholder in the new group, at any point in time. I remember the video he posted up, and from a quick search it was this one. linked here I remember him also deleting it and apologising, but your group had opted at that stage to launch a big pile on of him. That was the only thing he posted to the LS Discord publicly.

I'm not saying the screenshot you posted is false, but those are some incredibly long paragraphs for Celgane, who is based in the UAE. The wording is not really of his style, using things like "per se", "catch my drift" etc. They're not really things in his lexicon. Could it all have been copy/pasted and PM'd? Perhaps. In any case, I reiterate that your statement he was promoted to a leader was completely incorrect.

Also, to counter your comment about them not being disruptive in any way, this one from one of the other sackholders suggests otherwise. You may not have been aware of this though, because back then we weren't running Bumbas for everyone 24/7.

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By Pantafernando 2025-01-08 02:00:17
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Asura.Hya said: »
The internet was a mistake.

The internet is just a proxy to humans, and not the one to be blamed
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2025-01-08 09:37:03
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K123 said: »
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K123 said: »
Poor social skills are cognitive and deeply engrained. It's not about "skill".
Your's definitely are and you clearly have no desire to improve them. You would rather use a simple excuse to evade personal responsibility.
Who are you? Oh, are you one of those people that got butthurt over something I was right about so want to attack me in a completely unrelated thread? Oh ok.
correct I do not like you, I believe you are an ***; however whether I like you or not does not change how I feel about the statement I quoted.

You can manage a condition or suffer from it, your perspective seems to be that you can only suffer from it. You are destined for failure why try.
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By K123 2025-01-08 09:47:47
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Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
K123 said: »
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
K123 said: »
Poor social skills are cognitive and deeply engrained. It's not about "skill".
Your's definitely are and you clearly have no desire to improve them. You would rather use a simple excuse to evade personal responsibility.
Who are you? Oh, are you one of those people that got butthurt over something I was right about so want to attack me in a completely unrelated thread? Oh ok.
correct I do not like you, I believe you are an ***; however whether I like you or not does not change how I feel about the statement I quoted.

You can manage a condition or suffer from it, your perspective seems to be that you can only suffer from it. You are destined for failure why try.
So basically you are some loser that pays for "VIP" access to a forum and think this means you can shitpost, harass, and discriminate against people? Are the mods really this cheap?

You are clearly an *** and have no idea what you are talking about with ASD. I have not once said you "cannot manage" any of the three elements of ASD, but I have tried to educate you on masking and burnout, and how causing them doesn't really help either.

Come back when you have emotional intelligence and maturity over the age of 10. You are so pathetic it is unreal.
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2025-01-08 09:51:04
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K123 said: »
pays for "VIP" access
you dont pay for it, you get assigned it, my VIP status lets me manage the windower section of the forum.
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By K123 2025-01-08 10:19:51
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Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
K123 said: »
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you dont pay for it, you get assigned it, my VIP status lets me manage the windower section of the forum.
Ok. Does that give you free reign to shitpost and harass and discriminate outside of that sub-section of the forum then?

Are you going to tell us how downs syndrome people should just "manage their symptoms" next?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-08 10:30:03
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I dont see your VIP, yet all you do is freely shitpost and harass people. So clearly thats not a requirement.
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