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 Lakshmi.Malthael
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By Lakshmi.Malthael 2022-08-26 15:53:50
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Maybe I'm misremembering but March and Minuet should have the same duration, correct? I upgraded my Fili manchettes +1 to +2 and now my Marches are 10 seconds shorter than Minuets. Am I crazy? Does this mean that the Fili gloves +2 are not working as intended?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-08-26 16:02:22
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A (or many, all, unsure) piece of Bard +2 are broken.

Reported on the OF already (and in accepted bugs)
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Defect report > Accepted
Poet Enpi +2 Head and Hands Song Plus not working
https://forum-square--enix-com.translate.goog/ffxi/threads/59859-%E8%A9%A9%E4%BA%BA%E3%82%A8%E3%83%B3%E3%83%94-2%E3%80%80%E9%A0%AD%E3%81%A8%E6%89%8B%E3%80%80%E6%AD%8C%E3%83%97%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B9%E3%81%8C%E6%A9%9F%E8%83%BD%E3%81%97%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%81%AA%E3%81%84?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

In addition to being the wrong .dat
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By Lakshmi.Malthael 2022-08-26 16:06:11
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Okay perfect, I looked through the OF but couldn't find anything, but admittedly I didn't look too much. I appreciate the response, at least it wasn't me.
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By Mrxi 2022-08-26 19:29:49
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Not bugged, tested with send and gear locked 1 BRD emp +1 other with emp +2 hands and same duration, same acc from honor march, unless they managed to bug +1 hands too.
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By Mrxi 2022-08-27 02:22:00
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Tested all BRD emp +2 compared to naked. March naked and other mule with +2 hands only, +2 was 12 seconds longer. Did same with Minuet, +2 was 27 seconds longer since it has +13% duration on body. Madrigal +2 head was 11 seconds longer compared to casting naked because song casting time - 15%. Ballad 12 seconds longer.
Feet +2 Sentinel's Scherzo was 10 seconds longer because has 10 fast cast.
Set Bonus for feet + legs and Sentinel's Scherzo = 1 VIT, 3 pieces 2 = VIT, 4 pieces = 3 VIT, 5 pieces = 5 VIT.
MP from light carol also works. Not checking other songs. Only thing i see bugged here is that it shows as the RNG model.
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By Asura.Sechs 2022-08-27 04:57:15
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Mrxi said: »
Madrigal +2 head was 11 seconds longer compared to casting naked because song casting time - 15%..
WUT? lmao XD XD XD
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By Odin.Bangla 2022-08-27 05:53:31
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According to that thread, every piece but the +2 body is not applying the song bonus. Madrigal / March / Ballad / Scherzo +1 are not applied.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2022-08-29 23:37:18
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JA Minuet songs have gone from 9mins to 8mins with +2 body. So its broken too.

Also it looks like RNG body.
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By Phoenix.Godofwars 2022-08-29 23:47:58
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Fenrir.Jinxs said: »
JA Minuet songs have gone from 9mins to 8mins with +2 body. So its broken too.

Also it looks like RNG body.
so i just trythis and it dose work fine for me maybe you dont have the equipset with the body in there or your gearswap not working
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By Asura.Wotasu 2022-08-30 02:34:25
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If you're looking at timers plugin it will not count the +2 empy effects since it's haven't been added.
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2022-08-30 09:59:41
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Asura.Wotasu said: »
If you're looking at timers plugin it will not count the +2 empy effects since it's haven't been added.
Not the timers plugin.
The default status timer.

No gearswap
Fii 3/5 inyanga legs, af+3 feet, Kali
+2 body

I have been trying this morning to recreate the test with the +1 body on one character and the +2 on another but I cannot get the songs to fire off at the same time while remote.

It's a shorter value I used to be able to hit the Ja`s relatively close to when songs wear off.
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By Asura.Carrotchan 2022-08-30 11:44:42
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lol great, i made a bunch of bard earlier RIP
 
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2022-09-01 08:51:53
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I also tested this with/without the body and got increased potency. At that point I didn't bother testing duration. OP is mistaken, the gear is working as intended. I also checked the hat and it's also working.
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By Odin.Bangla 2022-09-01 08:57:15
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It is an accepted bug on the Jp official forum. I also have anecdotal data of my friend testing March hands and it not working. Can anyone post actual data or screenshots?
 
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By Odin.Bangla 2022-09-01 10:39:00
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Ok I assumed the JP post was correct. Maybe they snuck a fix in since then or maybe it wasn't broken at all.

This gave me enough confidence to upgrade mine and test myself.
Ballad Pants definitely give higher Ballad tick as well as duration.

Thanks for the test and screenshots.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2022-09-01 10:47:00
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https://imgur.com/a/9kHFH7o
First with Fili gloves+2, second without. The difference is exactly the +1 March bonus, 16 atk and 4 accuracy.
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By Odin.Bangla 2022-09-01 10:52:53
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
https://imgur.com/a/9kHFH7o
First with Fili gloves+2, second without. The difference is exactly the +1 March bonus, 16 atk and 4 accuracy.

Thanks for the proof. I assume the other pieces are alright then, too. Maybe it was broken before but definitely works at the moment.
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By Meeble 2022-09-01 10:59:29
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KujahFoxfire said: »
Can see here, first is march with just Marsyas equipped, second is Marsyas with Empy+2 hands, seems pretty conclusive.

Neither Singer nor the timers plugin read actual game data for durations, they are estimates of what the time should be based on the gear you have equipped when casting. Singer doesn't have a way to tell whether the hands bonus is actually applied or not.

With +2 hands equipped, when the time remaining drops under 1 minute, does the singer estimated timer match the actual seconds remaining on the game buff?
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2022-09-01 11:18:32
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Updated my imgur link with Madrigal and Minuet tests as well. Note: the Minuet actually shows 1 more ATK than the normal Minuet bonus, this is because of the set bonus giving +1 STR.

All 3 pieces are working as intended. I also checked duration on Madrigal and it is working as well. Tested it with Minuet but since the body also adds duration I wasn't positive if it was a combination of both, but it definitely added a large amount of duration to Minuet.
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By Asura.Chiaia 2022-09-01 15:09:01
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That JP bug submission smells like he used timers to test. The night of the update I added most emp +2 not just brd stuff but forgot about the 4 other pieces.

I had added body for it's +1% duration increase and it's specific spell type duration buff but the 4 others I forgot about the spell type duration buff. This has since been addressed.
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