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Pulling using a Dart on WAR...?
 Bismarck.Wildmann
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By Bismarck.Wildmann 2022-05-03 10:19:21
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I've been trying to figure out how to update my Selindrile WAR lua to add functionality to pull with a Dart. Any thoughts on how to accomplish this?

Currently I've got an in-game macro that swaps in a Dart into ammo and I can /ra <stnpc> but if I take a step the lua swaps me back to either my engaged ammo (or idle ammo).

Appreciate if anyone has figured out how to swap in ammo for pulling into their luas - preferably would work either engaged (TPing) or idle.
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By Asura.Taichuii 2022-05-03 10:48:46
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tried making an idle set toggle for pulling including the dart? Just an idea I feel like it should work?
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By Carbuncle.Yiazmaat 2022-05-03 10:49:34
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Have you tried to make similar sets as the rng lua? Precast set and midcast set ?

Edit: precast RA , midcast RA sets
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By Asura.Bippin 2022-05-03 11:47:05
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https://discord.gg/GMdya4ED
Would be the best place to get support for Sel's Gearswap
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By Lakshmi.Fivestarplayer 2022-05-03 13:04:51
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sets.precast.RA = {ammo="Dart"}

It doesn't need to be in your midcast.

EDIT: Maybe it does. I only use it when I'm not engaged.
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By Fairy.Trig 2022-05-03 13:14:02
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I added this to precast and midcast with Sel, works great. I think I had issues with idle sets swapping midcast if I didnt include both.

-- Ranged snapshot gear
sets.precast.RA = {range="Halakaala",ring2="Crepuscular Ring",}


-- Ranged midshot gear
sets.midcast.RA = {range="Halakaala",ear2="Telos Earring",ring1="Regal Ring",ring2="Crepuscular Ring"}
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By Seraphpdh 2022-05-03 13:21:45
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sets.precast = {}
sets.precast.RA = {ammo="Dart"}

---------------------------------------------------

sets.midcast = {}
sets.midcast.RA = {ammo="Dart"}

---------------------------------------------------

function precast(spell)
    if spell.action_type == 'Ranged Attack' then
        equip(sets.precast.RA)
    end
end

---------------------------------------------------

function midcast(spell)
    if spell.action_type == 'Ranged Attack' then
        equip(sets.midcast.RA)
    end
end

A few things to note: As long as you usually idle/melee with just the ammo slot filled and not a ranged weapon, you will not lose TP.

It depends on your LUA if you will need the midcast portion or not, test it and find out.

Also, I would recommend possibly putting any Treasure Hunter gear you have on in 'sets.precast.RA' and 'sets.midcast.RA' to apply up to TH4 (or TH8 on THF main) for your action since even a missed ranged attack will apply TH.
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By SimonSes 2022-05-03 14:33:38
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Fairy.Trig said: »
Ranged snapshot gear

Snapshot doesn't work for throwing
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By Phoenix.Tiburon 2022-05-03 18:45:40
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You should use a Pebble instead.
Best weapon in teh game.

Ye Olde Proofs :
https://www.ffxionline.com/forum/ffxi-game-related/general-ffxi-discussion/61349-pebble-unleashed
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By Lingerie 2022-05-03 18:58:07
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Bismarck.Wildmann said: »
I've been trying to figure out how to update my Selindrile WAR lua to add functionality to pull with a Dart. Any thoughts on how to accomplish this?

Currently I've got an in-game macro that swaps in a Dart into ammo and I can /ra <stnpc> but if I take a step the lua swaps me back to either my engaged ammo (or idle ammo).

Appreciate if anyone has figured out how to swap in ammo for pulling into their luas - preferably would work either engaged (TPing) or idle.
/ja "provoke"<t> if you're that close or can aggro pull.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2022-05-03 21:30:22
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Lingerie said: »
Bismarck.Wildmann said: »
I've been trying to figure out how to update my Selindrile WAR lua to add functionality to pull with a Dart. Any thoughts on how to accomplish this?

Currently I've got an in-game macro that swaps in a Dart into ammo and I can /ra <stnpc> but if I take a step the lua swaps me back to either my engaged ammo (or idle ammo).

Appreciate if anyone has figured out how to swap in ammo for pulling into their luas - preferably would work either engaged (TPing) or idle.
/ja "provoke"<t> if you're that close or can aggro pull.

I get his desire, and those solutions won't solve the concerns.

Likely he wants something that allows pulling from a greater distance than Provoke would, and possibly also to be able to pull single targets among mobs that aggro job abilities. Basically, the needs for non-magical, non-ja pulling mechanics is real, and when it is needed (albeit not a ton), nothing else will suffice.
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By Cerberus.Mrkillface 2022-05-03 22:03:55
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In CP/EXP/Odyssee parties, most everything dies before your provoke timer is back up.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2022-05-03 22:40:09
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Cerberus.Mrkillface said: »
In CP/EXP/Odyssee parties, most everything dies before your provoke timer is back up.

Leviathan.Celebrindal said: »
Likely he wants something that allows pulling from a greater distance than Provoke would
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By Odin.Lusiphur 2022-05-04 07:46:53
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When you're standing there getting buffed, sometimes it's nice to grab some mobs that don't stand a chance at interrupting said buffs being given so that you're not wasting time.
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By Fairy.Trig 2022-05-04 08:05:26
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SimonSes said: »
Fairy.Trig said: »
Ranged snapshot gear

Snapshot doesn't work for throwing

Ahhh, I didn't know that!
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By Bismarck.Wildmann 2022-05-04 09:38:21
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Seraphpdh said: »
Code
sets.precast = {}
sets.precast.RA = {ammo="Dart"}

---------------------------------------------------

sets.midcast = {}
sets.midcast.RA = {ammo="Dart"}

---------------------------------------------------

function precast(spell)
    if spell.action_type == 'Ranged Attack' then
        equip(sets.precast.RA)
    end
end

---------------------------------------------------

function midcast(spell)
    if spell.action_type == 'Ranged Attack' then
        equip(sets.midcast.RA)
    end
end

A few things to note: As long as you usually idle/melee with just the ammo slot filled and not a ranged weapon, you will not lose TP.

It depends on your LUA if you will need the midcast portion or not, test it and find out.

Also, I would recommend possibly putting any Treasure Hunter gear you have on in 'sets.precast.RA' and 'sets.midcast.RA' to apply up to TH4 (or TH8 on THF main) for your action since even a missed ranged attack will apply TH.

Seemed to work for me, gave me the added functionality that as long as I got a /ra initiated (with the correct ammo) that small movements would not unequip the dart.

Thank you!

Edit - I did just notice updating precast and midcast RA killed my ability to Tomahawk, need to think through that one.
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By Seraphpdh 2022-05-04 13:36:47
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Bismarck.Wildmann said: »
Seemed to work for me, gave me the added functionality that as long as I got a /ra initiated (with the correct ammo) that small movements would not unequip the dart.

Thank you!

Edit - I did just notice updating precast and midcast RA killed my ability to Tomahawk, need to think through that one.
Code
sets.precast          = {}
sets.precast.RA       = {ammo="Dart"}
sets.precast.Tomahawk = {ammo="Throwing tomahawk"}
---------------------------------------------------
sets.midcast          = {}
sets.midcast.RA       = {ammo="Dart"}
sets.midcast.Tomahawk = {ammo="Throwing tomahawk"}
---------------------------------------------------
function precast(spell)
    if spell.type == "JobAbility" then
        if spell.english == "Tomahawk" then
            equip(sets.precast.Tomahawk)
        end
    
    elseif spell.action_type == 'Ranged Attack' then
        equip(sets.precast.RA)
    end
end
---------------------------------------------------
function midcast(spell)
    if spell.type == "JobAbility" then
        if spell.english == "Tomahawk" then
            equip(sets.midcast.Tomahawk)
        end
        
    elseif spell.action_type == 'Ranged Attack' then
        equip(sets.midcast.RA)
    end
end
---------------------------------------------------

This ideally would fix your issue, but I cannot see exactly what your LUA is doing. I believe that for Tomahawk you only need it in precast, but I would just leave it in midcast just to be safe and make sure nothing gets messed up.
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