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That may be the case in some instances (previously mentioned Salvage being one), but there are still instances of Salvage that are easy to get into. So let's be real here then, show of hands, who wants to farm 30k Alex via Salvage?

My venture is everyone would rather farm the gil and pay for it. This funnels gil to RMT.

it only funnels gil to RMT if you don't ban them. once you ban them it funnels the gil to other players because alexandrite prices will rise to a level where the playerbase deems it worth farming.

Except they did that. For years. There were many items that the prices were controlled by RMT, SE would ban them, then they’d return and continue doing the same thing. Go back and look at the history of STF bans, they’d ban hundreds of accounts a month tied to RMT. They fixed that particular issue by making the bulk of them R/Ex.

My point is not that they should abide them, but rather update the game in a way that provides alternatives to these sources of gil. Using Alex as an example, reducing the required amount so it is feasibly farmable or offer an alternative you can work towards. Anything else is just going to continue the same pattern

I have plenty of videos and pics of this, I just haven't uploaded them. But I might do, if people would be interested in that kind of thing?

It's usually not particularly interesting. A mob kills a dood. You see it all the time lol. Generally not overly difficult either. (it can be impossible if you single box. Depends on the zone.)

I do it whenever I need to, too. But maybe people are into that seeing what they wish they could do but afraid of being banned for it.

They could hire one player to police Asura tomorrow for minimum wage if they wanted, and wipe out RMT and bots totally. However the fightback from the RMT industry would cripple the game.

The RMT industry is massive and makes more money than Square does from subs on 11 alone, if they went after them and shut them down they would 24/7 DDOS the servers so nobody can login, they would hack websites to inject trojans, they would hack players and steal accounts.

Ultimately, what we have right now is the best case scenario and it took 20 years of trial and error to get to this.

IIRC this happened years ago also, there was malware that would steal credentials for popular MMOs. I recall WoW had the same problem from the same malware, but I think there was also some 3rd party tool circulating that stole creds (at least SE issued a warning about it, but it could've been foot stomping about Windower). People would login and find themselves in front of the mailbox NPC with all their valuable gear and gil gone.

They introduced the security token in response, which is kindof funny, because FFXI had 2 factor auth years before any of my banks did.

I hope they patch the CJ method. Watching blus train the entire zone taking the mobs is getting old.

source or shut up


sure do it

It's not a good idea, also the person you're quoting is a massive flaming assh** and so if he is suggesting it then it's probably to report you.

If you do it in the game, do it but don't post evidence about it and don't send them tells or anything like that either.

the more you post the crazier you seem.

his character is literally tied to his ffxiah profile (because he's not a sock like you) why wouldn't i just report "kylos on cerberus" if i was going to do that?

there is no proof to any of your claims, you doubling down is going to result in me calling it out even more. saying RMT on ffxi make more than SE is absolutely idiotic and the dumbest take i have ever seen

For what it's worth, absolutely never record your crimes. And absolutely never admit them either.

Cover your name. Change your lockstyle. Hell even use plasticsurgeon or whatever that shits called to change your avatar to a taru. Always.

They generally aren't going to give a ***but if you hand it to them on a *** platter, well, yeah. (advice for real life too)

but if i don't record and upload how do i get them sweet likes and follows on social media?

I've been down there awhile and haven't seen any impact from this. There are hundreds of monsters with a short repop, more then enough even for a busy server like Asura.

Even if I did show this, it wouldn't matter because I'm not doing anything illegal. If the bots choose to target a mob I have and get killed, that's not against the terms of conditions, I'm just using their own cheating ways against them. This guys attitude is the reason I won't, and I ain't going to take the bait if it's just to report me, even though those reports will lead nowhere because I'm not doing anything that would get me banned.

I also don't want to show any methods, because it gives RMT and those who bot ways to counteract. Some are smart enough to come up with counter measures, while others aren't. So you can call me whatever you like, I know what the game is, and I ain't playing it. None of this would matter if SE cared enough to clean things up, but nowadays they just don't care/have the staff.

tldr this guy comes to ffxiah to brag about something he doesn't actually do and that's why he won't post proof of it.

that's sad

Cerberus is so dead... There's like 1 CP bot in doh gates, 1 in Outer Raka, 2 bots farming crafting shield mats, like six farming currencies and that random set of weirdos that flee hacks in the starter zones.

The only ones who actually get in the way of "normal" people are the crafting shield mat guys. Which... anybody who does one of those clearly wants to be tortured anyways.

Other than that, you pretty much have to go out of your way to even run into these things.

Like: There's a Dynamis campaign going on right now and there are 3 characters in all dynamis zones combined.

There's zero people in salavage atm.

There are 5 characters in doh gates.

Seriously...

The new apex mobs can be virelai'ed

So. Question.

Say, a blu goes and gets 100 mobs and CJ's.

Then say an *** run/blu waits 20 seconds and aoe's then foils right before doom ticks out.

Obviously the blu gets the exp for the one or two that got claimed by the sleeper and the target of CJ, but would the RUN steal all the other exp?

Find a run/blu friend and try it out. It wouldn't be the first or last time someone somebody did something very crappy/shady to someone.

If I could test it, I wouldve lol.

It's kind of always blown my mind that you can get exp from unclaimed mobs, so naturally, if people are mass pulling and dooming stuff, it only makes sense to take it.

"the mob(s) were yellow"

They could because the EXP is gained based on who has the hate at the time the monster dies. You could just cast Diaga and wake them all up, and have them kill the BLU, lol. I'm almost positive, though, that this could be considered harassment, and one GM call would put the blame on the RUN and not the BLU for taking 100 monsters. Don't know if they'd do anything.

Yes, do NOT cast diaga on slept mobs that someone else pulled.

But get higher enmity......... Totally legit.

Using a cure or whatever to brute force someone's monster via hate away from them is also harassment. People used to do it at Simurgh as PLD/THF (cure, sentinel, flee) and rip hate away from whoever had it. They changed it so that the monster stayed claimed on their target, but it doesn't apply to multiple targets (they stay white). I could see a case where someone might argue "he's taking all the mobs and they aren't claimed, fair game", but it's still a form of harassment.

Actually, I guess I should say that I am not for certain sure who would get the EXP, because you would have to guarantee the RUN or PLD took hate at the time of death and it could easily bounce back to the BLU just before doom activates. Guess it's an easy test with an outside party PLD

SE says you are wrong.

https://support.na.square-enix.com/faqarticle.php?kid=12638&id=20&la=1&ret=faq&pv=20&page=1&c=0&sc=0&so=0

This is common knowledge...

Only shitheads. Example, when I see a Blu cleave someone's mobs as they're mass pulling for merits. They know what they're doing is shitty and they know they'll get away with it.

This game has had little accountability since it started. GMs telling people that mob stealing was ok, etc. That being said, it's understandable why some people are willing to resort to vigilante justice. Some will only take so much "no action" before they get fed up.

This is wrong because the mobs are mine and I have not been defeated. If they come along and attack my mobs while I'm in battle, it is them trying to take my mobs, I didn't make them do that. If the bot then gets killed because it decided to take my mobs, then that's on them, and I can reclaim. It's only MPK if the person doesn't choose to attack the enemy, yet I come along and try to get them killed, which I don't do.

If a bot gets "purpled" it was through their own actions. Trying to steal a mob caused their death.

I would be surprised if luring a bot to its death would be considered an MPK. After all, you need to kill an actual player.

Speaking of, what do you do to kill bots at Doh Gates such as the CP sellers? I know how to kill a bot that is chasing after mobs, like in Reisenjima, but not sure what you would do if they're standing still. . . not that I would abuse this information.

I wouldn't. In an unsurprising turn of events, SE would probably take the bots' side and punish the player instead of the RMT, cuz' "rules". They don't have the capacity to differentiate between "you broke the rules" vs "you got a few bots killed, deservedly". Investigations are a different department. You'd just get yourself in trouble. Bass Ackwards.