HELP: Dark Gyves Ruin My Life

Language: JP EN DE FR
users online
Forum » FFXI » Dat Modding » HELP: Dark Gyves Ruin My Life
HELP: Dark Gyves Ruin My Life
 Fenrir.Velner
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Velner
Posts: 429
By Fenrir.Velner 2020-09-30 11:07:27
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Hi friends

I was curious if anybody has a solution for the lag caused in the Lilith battlefield by the Dark Gyves. There are times I don't have sufficient time to respond to Fatal Allure or Dread Spikes because the lag is out of control. I have tried replacing the .DAT with other, less laggy, .DATs but that has caused them not to be visible at all. This causes its own problems. I've scoured the internet for no-glow versions of this model, but have been unsuccessful. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you for your time.

Velner
 Asura.Biglovin
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Monko
Posts: 325
By Asura.Biglovin 2020-09-30 11:21:36
Link | Quote | Reply
 
type in:
/localsettings blureffect off
that'll make them not lag.
[+]
 Fenrir.Velner
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Velner
Posts: 429
By Fenrir.Velner 2020-09-30 11:24:15
Link | Quote | Reply
 
That is so much simpler than .DAT modding. Thank you!
Offline
Posts: 4595
By RadialArcana 2020-09-30 13:42:40
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I don't know why they even have blureffect anymore, it's a ps2 thing that doesn't even work on PC very well.
 Ragnarok.Jukiro
Offline
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: ikariiiii
Posts: 198
By Ragnarok.Jukiro 2020-09-30 14:11:30
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I replaced them with poroggos, it looks hella weird but works great. rom/259/73 through 80 is where you will find the gyves
[+]
 
Offline
Posts:
By 2020-09-30 14:12:31
 Undelete | Edit  | Link | Quote | Reply
 
Post deleted by User.
 
Offline
Posts:
By 2020-09-30 14:14:23
 Undelete | Edit  | Link | Quote | Reply
 
Post deleted by User.
Offline
Posts: 1707
By Senaki 2020-09-30 14:20:04
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Asura.Biglovin said: »
type in:
/localsettings blureffect off
that'll make them not lag.

I could be mistaken, but I think this also turns off the blue aura around Avatars (Smn Pets). This might help with lag with Smn burning.
Offline
Posts: 4595
By RadialArcana 2020-09-30 14:25:12
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Blureffect turns off the blur from avatars and some trusts, didnt' know about gyves.
 Asura.Botosi
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Botosi
Posts: 375
By Asura.Botosi 2020-09-30 14:31:22
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Asura.Biglovin said: »
type in:
/localsettings blureffect off
that'll make them not lag.

Wow I had no idea this even existed. Quadboxing Lilith brings so much lag.

Only have to do this once then it’s set forever, correct?
 Cerberus.Tikal
Offline
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: Tikal
Posts: 4945
By Cerberus.Tikal 2020-09-30 14:45:33
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Yep.
[+]
 Bahamut.Elesar
Offline
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
user: Elesar
Posts: 32
By Bahamut.Elesar 2020-10-26 07:26:53
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Asura.Biglovin said: »
type in:
/localsettings blureffect off
that'll make them not lag.

Thank you for this. I had no idea this was a built-in option in the game.
 Asura.Tamoa
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: Tamoa
Posts: 1341
By Asura.Tamoa 2020-10-26 09:09:21
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Asura.Biglovin said: »
type in:
/localsettings blureffect off
that'll make them not lag.

Two words: THANK YOU!!!
 
Offline
Posts:
By 2020-10-26 09:11:35
 Undelete | Edit  | Link | Quote | Reply
 
Post deleted by User.
[+]
 Asura.Aeonova
Offline
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
user: aeonova
Posts: 3113
By Asura.Aeonova 2020-10-26 12:03:45
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Fenrir.Velner said: »
Hi friends

I was curious

I love that you start your statement with a "Hi friends. I was curious". All of the best things result from that kind of statement.
 Cerberus.Kaht
Offline
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
user: kaht
Posts: 619
By Cerberus.Kaht 2020-10-26 13:33:09
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Also look into dgvoodoo if you're experiencing slowdown on your machine. It can make ffxi smooth on even some of the oldest machines.

There's a thread here on ffxiah with details of what you need to do to set it up.
 Fenrir.Velner
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Velner
Posts: 429
By Fenrir.Velner 2020-11-02 18:44:36
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Update for anybody else with this issue:

1) /localsettings blureffect off was a huge help and made the instance playable with one character. Two characters was still choppy. Three resulted in still being unable to respond to Dark Thorn and Fatal Allure.

2) I also changed the .DAT file for the Dark Gyves into Runic Lamps. The Runic Lamp .DAT file is located in Rom4/1/107.DAT. The Dark Gyve .DAT file is Rom/259/80.DAT. The only issue is that when she spawns one, only the name will appear and not the model therefore I fought her with my camera at the highest angle to see when a gyve was spawned.

3) I did try DGVoodoo but I probably messed up the settings because, ultimately, it resulted in much lower performance despite taking quite a bit of the load off my CPU.

I've managed 5/5, 4/5, and 3/5 pieces on my characters in 379 fights like this. It's not ideal having to hold the camera angle up while also prepping to turn around and cycling macros but it does work. I just hope it's not 379 more fights before I have those other pieces. Thanks everybody for the input!
 Ragnarok.Jukiro
Offline
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
user: ikariiiii
Posts: 198
By Ragnarok.Jukiro 2020-11-02 21:35:44
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Fenrir.Velner said: »
It's not ideal having to hold the camera angle up while also prepping to turn around and cycling macros but it does work.

poroggo tho
 Fenrir.Velner
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Velner
Posts: 429
By Fenrir.Velner 2020-11-03 03:40:12
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ragnarok.Jukiro said: »

poroggo tho

I tried! I couldn't find the .DAT.
Offline
Posts: 4595
By RadialArcana 2020-11-03 06:17:34
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Try this mod I just made

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IRj4lhHtiE7lAXXqiBHVOOwFvNoWLCoY/view?usp=sharing

It's the normal Gyve with all the glow stuff removed, let me know if it helps or not. If not I maybe able to change it more or just delete it.



Before and after in image, I think the miasma is the problem same as with geo bubbles but I took the glowing orb out too.

By the way, what are the other gyves for, the ice, wind, light ones? Anyone know.
[+]
 Bismarck.Zuidar
Offline
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
user: Radiuz
Posts: 1273
By Bismarck.Zuidar 2020-11-03 07:53:09
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ragnarok.Jukiro said: »
Yeah, I mentioned that in my post, I'm having trouble finding the specific dats related to it-- using both POLUtils and AltanaView.


Edit: nevermind, found them under ROM/259/, 73-80 are the elemental gyves, 80 being the dark elemental.

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/54070/fetter-removal/#3455574
In the order is fire - ice - wind - earth - thunder - water - light - dark

EDIT: I think what you did with the dark gyves really helped, looking forward to the remaining ones
necroskull Necro Bump Detected! [1161 days between previous and next post]
 Ragnarok.Royalrichierich
Offline
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2
By Ragnarok.Royalrichierich 2024-01-08 13:30:28
Link | Quote | Reply
 
type in:
/localsettings blureffect off
that'll make them not lag.

i've tested this in game and lilith dark gyves still have that glow to them and game still crashes..

Anyone else still - have this issue or a fix to it?
Offline
Posts: 4595
By RadialArcana 2024-01-08 13:40:01
Link | Quote | Reply
 
It really should not crash from this, maybe some lag but that's about it. Are you using mega textures mod or something?
 Fenrir.Niflheim
VIP
Offline
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
user: Tesahade
Posts: 738
By Fenrir.Niflheim 2024-01-08 14:39:46
Link | Quote | Reply
 
If you are running XIView make sure it is up to date.
necroskull Necro Bump Detected! [326 days between previous and next post]
 Ragnarok.Royalrichierich
Offline
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2
By Ragnarok.Royalrichierich 2024-11-29 08:18:38
Link | Quote | Reply
 
I was finally able to get it all running smoothly with no issues, I lowered all my char's frame rate and misc 2. Clipping Plane + Animation Frame Rate, plus I did remove shadows / and weathers stuff like that - incase you/or someone else have same issue.

Thanks.
Offline
Posts: 1147
By DaneBlood 2024-11-29 16:17:12
Link | Quote | Reply
 
Ragnarok.Royalrichierich said: »
I was finally able to get it all running smoothly with no issues, I lowered all my char's frame rate and misc 2. Clipping Plane + Animation Frame Rate, plus I did remove shadows / and weathers stuff like that - incase you/or someone else have same issue.

Thanks.

old but covers the exact same stuff
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/37945/ffxi-lag-and-you/

cannot underestimate how much improvemnt the blureffect command does though
/localsettings blureffect off
Log in to post.