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 Cerberus.Senkyuutai
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2019-11-13 08:05:56
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geigei said: »
If they gonna go through logs then pretty much everyone is fkd, dupe or not, most of us did some ***at some point.
I wouldn't bet on it.
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By Nekseus 2019-11-13 08:07:47
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once the dust settles and the memes dry up its going to leave a void that no amount of medals or packets will ever be able to fill.

like FF in the packets?
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By Shichishito 2019-11-13 08:09:36
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they have like what, 3 employees and how many months/years of backlogs? if they'd dig thru all of them manually its going to take another 20 years befor we see the first ban hammer drop.
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By Nekseus 2019-11-13 08:11:35
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DirectX said: »
geigei said: »
If they gonna go through logs then pretty much everyone is fkd, dupe or not, most of us did some ***at some point.
Won't they be looking specifically for medal related stuff?

If they look for everything it really is game over this time. People said this at salvage bans and that was 100s if not thousands of accounts that got banned but this time it would be basically the entire playerbase.

seriously though ill be out of business... and apparently sued... xD

Shichishito said: »
they have like what, 3 employees and how many months/years of backlogs? if they'd dig thru all of them manually its going to take another 20 years befor we see the first ban hammer drop.

everyone says this like they cant allocate some people over from 14 if need be...
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2019-11-13 08:13:31
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Shichishito said: »
they have like what, 3 employees and how many months/years of backlogs? if they'd dig thru all of them manually its going to take another 20 years befor we see the first ban hammer drop.
Pretty sure people on FFXIV have so many fingers up their *** from the activity that they may as well just give a hand to the STF.
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By geigei 2019-11-13 08:15:13
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Dunno how it works but if they gather logs and do ctrl-f "insert dupe stuff" then is over in one day.
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By Nekseus 2019-11-13 08:16:36
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Shichishito said: »
they have like what, 3 employees and how many months/years of backlogs? if they'd dig thru all of them manually its going to take another 20 years befor we see the first ban hammer drop.
Pretty sure people on FFXIV have so many fingers up their *** from the activity that they may as well just give a hand to the STF.

I bet its all in the same office. Dealing with 11 is probably the reverse employee of the month there
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By fonewear 2019-11-13 08:17:18
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they have like what, 3 employees and how many months/years of backlogs? if they'd dig thru all of them manually its going to take another 20 years befor we see the first ban hammer drop.


SE hard at work:

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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2019-11-13 08:18:33
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Nekseus said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
Shichishito said: »
they have like what, 3 employees and how many months/years of backlogs? if they'd dig thru all of them manually its going to take another 20 years befor we see the first ban hammer drop.
Pretty sure people on FFXIV have so many fingers up their *** from the activity that they may as well just give a hand to the STF.

I bet its all in the same office. Dealing with 11 is probably the reverse employee of the month there
Depending on the department, people actually work on both games (and more, in Japan, DQX etc.).

The STF is exclusively JP, though.
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By Idiot Boy 2019-11-13 08:23:22
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geigei said: »
Dunno how it works but if they gather logs and do ctrl-f "insert dupe stuff" then is over in one day.

There's multiple steps to the process.

First thing you do is, yes, write something that sifts through the mountain of logging data looking for specific patterns. You may even need to repeat this step several times if the results don't look sane. Once you have that smaller, more reasonable subset of data, there's at least a little manual inspection to make sure you didn't hit false positives.

Once you have that, there's some decisions to be made based on the size of the affected group; too small a round of bans concedes ground to lawlessness, too big murders the community/economy, and likely the game itself.
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By Asura.Whiss 2019-11-13 08:24:22
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Who gonna sell me a dagon later? Omen hates me ????
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By Lakshmi.Darkdoom 2019-11-13 08:26:55
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Bans started dropping this morning, check your bois.
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By Asura.Shiraj 2019-11-13 08:29:31
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You wanna fight, Whiss!!!!!

Square up in public! Let's make some money from our scrap.
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2019-11-13 08:29:49
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Lakshmi.Darkdoom said: »
Bans started dropping this morning, check your bois.
Safe: other than the account that got reported for this entire thing lol. Burner accounts didnt get hit...
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By Asura.Whiss 2019-11-13 08:29:59
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You wanna fight, Whiss!!!!!

Square up in public! Let's make some money from our scrap.
Ight I'll be on after work.
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By fonewear 2019-11-13 08:32:56
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Shichishito said: »
they have like what, 3 employees and how many months/years of backlogs? if they'd dig thru all of them manually its going to take another 20 years befor we see the first ban hammer drop.

There are still waiting for Windows 95 to boot up. That is why it is taking 12 hours.
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By spengler 2019-11-13 08:39:38
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There will be another round of bans in a week or so
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-11-13 08:41:33
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Lakshmi.Darkdoom said: »
Bans started dropping this morning, check your bois.

Is this accurate?
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By Asura.Shiraj 2019-11-13 08:42:01
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Hopefully I'm next so i can go play minecraft with the boys.
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By Asura.Shiraj 2019-11-13 08:42:32
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Lakshmi.Darkdoom said: »
Bans started dropping this morning, check your bois.

Is this accurate?

Yes. Not gonna name people, but RIP many of the people I knew lol.
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2019-11-13 08:44:06
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Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Lakshmi.Darkdoom said: »
Bans started dropping this morning, check your bois.

Is this accurate?
Yes, I was LM-31. Though the accuracy seems to be a bit off. I assume I was hit for the original reporting.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-11-13 08:46:07
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PM sir and let me know who was bopped. I would like some whine with my morning tea

mah fack lemme check Buukki to see if I'm still active. They could have gotten me for cussing out Oseem and his *** yesterday
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2019-11-13 08:46:48
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I wouldn't really assume you got away with it just based on not being hit yet. There's a large scale investigation left to go.

The character I used to initially reproduce this, which created 8 medals then immediately dropped them, was hit. This was not "the taru", it did nothing to give away it's identity and said nothing to anyone besides a '/p plz dont ban me i was just trying to find this to report it' before dropping the medals. Of course, "the taru" is gone as well.

They are not pulling punches, it's just a matter of how long it takes to sift through logs, so more recent offenders will go first. People who haven't touched it in months might slip through the cracks.

The obvious candidates are gone too, Kemikalz, Angmar, Canibal, probably a whole lot more.
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2019-11-13 08:46:53
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they have like what, 3 employees and how many months/years of backlogs? if they'd dig thru all of them manually its going to take another 20 years befor we see the first ban hammer drop.

I bet they finish their investigation in a few weeks though. They learned about the salvage exploit in November of 2008, and by January of 2009 they had informed us of the results. So the whole process took less than 2 months back then. They may not have as much staff now, but the investigative process should be similar and I suspect the target group will be smaller. The dupe is likely pretty easy to trace so identifying the people who actually performed it shouldn't take them very long, but if they look for bank mules or try to track down the ones hiding away hundreds of medal stacks it would add some extra time. But sorting through data with an effecient algorithm shouldn't take that long. Deciding what to do with the data will probably take them just as long as it does to get it in the first place.
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By fonewear 2019-11-13 08:46:56
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Instead of banning people they should just limit you to one REMA weapon.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-11-13 08:49:20
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The obvious candidates are gone too, Kemikalz, Angmar, Canibal, probably a whole lot more.

So like, I said to a LS member who got a "huge discount" on SU5 weapons that something was fishy with all of the price drops. it seems the people who knew they were going to be banned were dropping their high priced items in an effort to launder their money easier. Gil is easier to distribute between sock characters than multiple weapons. It all makes sense now.
 
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2019-11-13 08:52:30
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Instead of banning people they should just limit you to one REMA weapon. And then put a flag above your head that says "cheater".

The ultimate punishment! Shame is a bigger motivator for people than taking away material things ever will be. That's ingenious.
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By Lakshmi.Darkdoom 2019-11-13 08:52:57
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Two of my chars are gone, they didn't hit one that had a bunch of stuff traded to it just the other day though. Probably still deciding how far they want to go.
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