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By DirectX 2018-08-09 18:38:16
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Popped 4 chests, 2 were Thud and I only got Baghere Salade and Hahava Mail. Also boulder sack and a sack of snowtip+1. Which came from the Thud?
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By Asura.Sirtaint 2018-08-09 18:38:35
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My ashera harness was a Loud Thud and was the only armor drop.

Harness
Amethyst
Tourmaline
Hepatizon ore

2 people in party when i popped the chest both mules.
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By Leviathan.Chiquitito 2018-08-09 21:56:53
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By clearlyamule 2018-08-09 22:51:20
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3 more runs with venus

2 noise 2 thud-frayed sack (1 skirmish 1 reisin), anahera saber, felistris mask, Annealed lance.

4 noise 1 loud thud (finally)- compensator, eschite gauntlets, pelt of dawon, worn sack +1, belladonna, squama


And immediate death



Didn't expect it to sell for that much let alone right away... guess need to put next one up for more
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-08-09 22:53:08
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4 Noise 1 Thud; Dugai Leggings/Voidwrought plate
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-08-09 22:56:36
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clearlyamule said: »
3 more runs with venus

2 noise 2 thud-frayed sack (1 skirmish 1 reisin), anahera saber, felistris mask, Annealed lance.

4 noise 1 loud thud (finally)- compensator, eschite gauntlets, pelt of dawon, worn sack +1, belladonna, squama


And immediate death



Didn't expect it to sell for that much let alone right away... guess need to put next one up for more

I think you undersold it for far too little. BIS nuking and magical belt, could've finessed someone for 50m
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-08-09 22:58:29
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Gonna agree on that one, I even think it'd be almost worth 10, so that means you could've got 100.
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By clearlyamule 2018-08-09 23:08:46
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Put it up before I did the math and was just like yay easy drop. That said didn't you have to be really close for it to be good? Also it's not BiS with double weather
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-08-09 23:10:11
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Dem pld holys mang. Pld doesnt get weather from sch. and/or lunges.

yes, you do have to be point blank to get the 15 affinity
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2018-08-09 23:20:14
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double weathe schmubble webber. New items easy to exploit, especially for someone mix/maxing like a corsair or something. Oh well.
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By Aerix 2018-08-09 23:29:00
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It adds like 1.6k-2k damage to Leaden Salute in melee range. That alone makes it worth a ton to any serious COR.

Same for BLU cleavers, pretty much.
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By clearlyamule 2018-08-09 23:32:03
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Oh corsair is a different story since it's one of the few that regularly use affinity. For LS assuming pixie+1 and archon elemental obi wins at single weather + day.

But yes this is easier to use and lets cut the cord with your local sch
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By Aerix 2018-08-09 23:38:06
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Well, Hachirin only wins with day+weather or double weather. If the COR at any point doesn't benefit from Darksday or having a main SCH along, the new belt will reduce the difference to 400-500ish damage or less rather than the huge gap you had previously.
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By Afania 2018-08-09 23:44:25
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clearlyamule said: »
Oh corsair is a different story since it's one of the few that regularly use affinity. For LS assuming pixie+1 and archon elemental obi wins at single weather + day.

But yes this is easier to use and lets cut the cord with your local sch

According to my quick math posted yesterday, for leaden salute, 15 affinity beats single weather obi (10%) but not double.

Set used are same as what I have atm, so pixie+1/Archon was on for 33 more affinity.

The math shows same result as Aerix's nuke test in game, double weather obi > 15 affinity > single weather obi.

If someone else have different result let me know.
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By Leviathan.Celebrindal 2018-08-10 00:06:38
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Afania said: »
clearlyamule said: »
Oh corsair is a different story since it's one of the few that regularly use affinity. For LS assuming pixie+1 and archon elemental obi wins at single weather + day.

But yes this is easier to use and lets cut the cord with your local sch

According to my quick math posted yesterday, for leaden salute, 15 affinity beats single weather obi (10%) but not double.

Set used are same as what I have atm, so pixie+1/Archon was on for 33 more affinity.

The math shows same result as Aerix's nuke test in game, double weather obi > 15 affinity > single weather obi.

If someone else have different result let me know.

So for those who need the tl;dr version of even 9 lines: if you have a SCH in party, stick with obi, otherwise use new belt at close range?
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By clearlyamule 2018-08-10 00:16:05
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Well also depends if by win we are talking about mean, medium or mode averages. I was doing math for mean but quick results will most likely show you mode. Just using relevant multipliers of affinity, day/weather bonus and proc rate assuming 33% regular proc rate to show some work at the close to breaking points in different situations

Just belt swaps:

double weather: +.25 bonus
Obi- 1.25*1*1= 1.25
Sash-(1.25*.33+1*.66)*1.15= 1.23375

Day + weather: .2 bonus

Obi- 1.2*1*1 = 1.2
Sash- (1.2*.33+1*.66)*1.15= 1.2144

Belts swaps with 33 affinity:

sing weather: +.1 bonus
Obi- 1.1*1*1.33= 1.463
Sash-(1.1*.33+1*.66)*1.48= 1.51404

Day + weather: .2 bonus

Obi- 1.2*1*1.33 = 1.596
Sash- (1.2*.33+1*.66)*1.48= 1.56288

Belts swaps with 33 affinity:

sing weather: +.1 bonus
Obi- 1.1*1*1.33= 1.463
Sash-(1.1*.33+1*.66)*1.48= 1.51404

Day + weather: .2 bonus

Obi- 1.2*1*1.33 = 1.596
Sash- (1.2*.33+1*.66)*1.48= 1.56288

Note day + single weather with twilight cape will have the same results as double weather no day... however it is swapping another piece so it's a bit more complicated and sash without cape swap might still beat obi with cape swap but that will need a lot more math and gear sets and *** it easier to just keep on using sash in that case
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By Asura.Zanosan 2018-08-10 01:21:01
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Has anyone seen a grellow proc yet? I've seen mention of red and blue already, but...
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By Staleyx 2018-08-10 02:00:21
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Venus Orb
First chest = Loud Thud

Anahera Saber
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By kinkanat 2018-08-10 05:09:14
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fail post sorry
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By Asura.Inuyushi 2018-08-10 16:02:22
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Did Mar's Orb solo on RUN/WHM. In full DT set with Reraise on and the typical buffs (Phalanx, Stoneskin, Lux x3, Valliance, Protect 4, Shell 5) the Chest only did 45 damage with the Ka-thwack. My reraise was wiped when he used it. He then proceeded to hit me for next to nothing, with over half his attacked getting parried. At 99% he proceeded to cast Death and one-shot me. Fun.

I had opened 5 chests, but no thuds. So I pressed on until death or a thud.

I would enjoy this a ton more if we figured out a way to kill this chest. Has anyone made progress? I was just using my free Mars Orb to clear inventory.
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By Asura.Nuance 2018-08-10 18:13:24
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Managed to get it to about 56% rdm addle2 to slow casting of death and light shot from cor to stop it completely from going off. Sleep works as well in a pinch. Kept seeing red !! No idea what it did but seemed to happen randomly. Sometimes his evasion was nothing and sometimes I couldn’t hit it for ***.
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By kinkanat 2018-08-10 18:52:13
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With Mars Orb we were pup tank, pup dd and smn.

Pup pet resisted several deaths without any problem.

We were only able to take 5% of the life out of the caress in about 5-10 min, so we warped.
 
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By Quetzalcoatl.Senaki 2018-08-10 20:44:56
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Josiahkf said: »
Wonder if his stats are based on how many chests you opened or something; That would explain the variation.

Omg your profile picture.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-08-10 21:28:03
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Quetzalcoatl.Senaki said: »
Josiahkf said: »
Wonder if his stats are based on how many chests you opened or something; That would explain the variation.

Omg your profile picture.
Agreed
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By Cerberus.Boogs 2018-08-11 08:49:21
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I would think that the chest is simply near-impossible to beat, with no gimmicks involved (i.e. no proc system, etc). I.e. I don't think the majority of players were meant to defeat the mimic. Otherwise, people would eventually find the weakness and spam this event with mules granting access to 5 non-mules. The drops seem too good to allow for such "high" frequency if the mimic were to be easily vanquished due to some hidden-but-now-known weakness.
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By Asura.Geriond 2018-08-11 09:11:13
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There most certainly are gimmicks intended to make him beatable, given the procs people report, as well as the varying DT at lower HP.
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By Boshi 2018-08-11 09:13:20
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So what were the new items from? thud, loud thud?

I'm obsessed with finding the ring/belt atm
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