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By Asura.Gotenn 2021-02-10 17:55:22
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One of the benefits I also see is when using a RDM maton, you dont have to swap into Ambu gear for the pet: MACC, you can stay in this stuff.
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By Teuphist 2021-02-10 18:53:24
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Asura.Gotenn said: »
One of the benefits I also see is when using a RDM maton, you dont have to swap into Ambu gear for the pet: MACC, you can stay in this stuff.

A nice melee/mb build can turn out to be good...or debuff/mb.

I also see my old mnk sub tanking project gaining a bit more life here
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By Asura.Gotenn 2021-02-11 17:58:16
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Now I just need Febiano to update gear sets in the guide, cause im not entirely sure where to put everything.
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By Bahamut.Yiazmat 2021-02-13 13:31:06
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Anyone tested the new feets and gloves out there?
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By Sylph.Excalin 2021-02-13 16:49:42
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Using the Ambu Back piece I get something like:

Level 119->120:
Some combo of DEX & Accuracy = ~36
Some combo of AGI & R Accuracy = ~36
Some combo of STR & Attack = ~37
Some combo of STR & R Attack = ~36
Some combo of AGI & Evasion = ~23
Some combo of VIT & Defense = ~43

completely guessing that it ends up being roughly something like +20 All Stats, 20Acc/Atk/Racc/Ratk & 13 Eva/Def
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By Asura.Nalfey 2021-02-13 17:55:24
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Aerix said: »
Edit: Herculean/Tali'ah are dead, long live Mpaca! Head/Body/Legs are BiS for WSs, Hands/Feet for TP/Pet burn. And Neo Animator might turn out to be competitive, if we're lucky? Aw yiss.


Hey Aerix,
Would you mind elaborating a bit more on this please.

Are you using Mpaca Head/Body/Legs just for Shijin Spiral and Howling/Raging Fists ? or for all WSs ?

Mpaca Hands/Feet are they for Master+Pet engaged TP set or only the Pet engaged alone TP set ?

Also would you keep the Mpaca Feet for Pet only WSing ? with the Automation lvl+1 ? or keep Naga Kyahan as pet WS Feet?

Thanks a lot !
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By Asura.Gotenn 2021-02-13 19:44:40
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I had a random thought about Pet Enmity and weather the pet is subject to the +200 maximum.

Had my main run 3x fire with full + enmity gear, double strobe, OF 1 and 2, So my pet had 247 enmity

mule ran same setup but with the 192 Enmity from attachments only ran +8 in gear to get exactly 200.

Timed it very close, Deploy on main, deploy on mule, Mules pet took hate. So both pets provoked with +200 Enmity.
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By Asura.Gotenn 2021-02-13 19:49:26
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The only time this actually matters is if your running double fire + single light.

With my full enmity gear I'm actually 213 enmity, so its possible to drop 2 pieces back to HP+ gear, so that I don't lower my pets HP and enmity loss from getting hit is reduced.
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By Aerix 2021-02-13 19:50:45
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Asura.Nalfey said: »
Aerix said: »
Edit: Herculean/Tali'ah are dead, long live Mpaca! Head/Body/Legs are BiS for WSs, Hands/Feet for TP/Pet burn. And Neo Animator might turn out to be competitive, if we're lucky? Aw yiss.


Hey Aerix,
Would you mind elaborating a bit more on this please.

Are you using Mpaca Head/Body/Legs just for Shijin Spiral and Howling/Raging Fists ? or for all WSs ?

Mpaca Hands/Feet are they for Master+Pet engaged TP set or only the Pet engaged alone TP set ?

Also would you keep the Mpaca Feet for Pet only WSing ? with the Automation lvl+1 ? or keep Naga Kyahan as pet WS Feet?

Thanks a lot !

I was being a bit facetious with that post, but going by the numbers I got in the spreadsheet while using the sets from the first page guide as basis (just substitute slots with Mpaca as mentioned):

Stringing Pummel:
Mpaca body/legs and possibly feet are BiS (Ryuo and Herc hit harder, but don't have the massive Acc)

Victory Smite:
Same as above, except augmented Mpaca might be useful over R15 Blistering Sallet +1 despite doing less WS damage, as the Skillchain Bonus would be quite significant for our Light SCs (which is the main use for VSmite these days)

Howling Fist/Raging:
Mpaca head/legs

Shijin:
No Mpaca unless you don't feel like making DEX/TA/Acc/Atk herc pieces

TP:
  • AM3 up, no DD maton: full malignance or mixed with Ryuo for max STP

  • AM3 up or no AM3 with DD maton: Heyoka head/legs, Mpaca body/hands/feet mix

  • no AM3, no maton: Ryuo head/legs, Tali'ah body, Herc hands/feet mix for fastest tp or full mpaca/malignance for safety without sacrificing too much TP speed



Mpaca and Malignance make it really easy to cap PDT or DT these days and to be honest, max DPS isn't really a necessity for any content. Being dead means no DPS, so I'd personally recommend going the safer routes.
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By Asura.Nalfey 2021-02-13 20:54:50
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Thanks for all the details Aerix !
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By fillerbunny9 2021-02-15 14:11:38
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so, I am trying to export the augments on my capes to Gearswap, and my Pet -MDT10% comes out like this:

{name="Visucius's Mantle", augments={'Pet: Acc.+20 Pet: R.Acc.+20 Pet: Atk.+20 Pet: R.Atk.+20','Accuracy+20 Attack+20','Pet: "Regen"+10','System: 1 ID: 1247 Val: 4',}}

anyone have experience with this?
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-02-15 14:18:11
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That's just what they come out as, works fine

My THF cape has the same type of thing, no issue though

back={ name="Toutatis's Cape", augments={'DEX+20','Accuracy+20 Attack+20','Accuracy+10','"Store TP"+10','System: 1 ID: 1155 Val: 4',}},
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By Leviathan.Restrat 2021-02-16 09:41:24
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Is it possible to go in solo and just Overdrive the fights in Atonement 1&2? I'm just looking to get clears
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By Undula 2021-02-16 10:05:03
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Yesterday i tried Dealan-dhe solo and killed it comfortably and fast with OD.
Just about to try the Umbrill right now, but not sure if the automaton can make it through the doom-spamm.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-02-16 14:38:34
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Alright so, ambuscade but pup specific. VD

The attachments build for not getting absolutely demolished by frostboys blizzaja nine. How much damage does it do, and which frame is optimal.

Or do you retrieve it and redeploy it. (not going to get taeon with DT meva) Rao/AMK head
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By Korgull 2021-02-16 21:36:12
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Alright so, ambuscade but pup specific. VD

The attachments build for not getting absolutely demolished by frostboys blizzaja nine. How much damage does it do, and which frame is optimal.

Or do you retrieve it and redeploy it. (not going to get taeon with DT meva) Rao/AMK head

I use the Tank Turtle build from the bg wiki guide with no changes, at all; the only thing i do is swap from 2 fire 1 light to 2 light 1 fire to trigger the auto regen. I also use repair at around 30-40%.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-02-16 21:39:55
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It casts 15~ times and it does like 2400 on E, so it must be like 6k on VD even best case it doesn't feel survivable. automation magic damage being a huge weak spot.
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By Korgull 2021-02-16 21:46:58
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I've done it twice with my mule PUP following the pointers i gave you with no problems. I don't remeber if we had a RDM on those runs, because paralyze helps a lot.

This is my attachment set:

<tankturtle>
<frame>valoredge frame</frame>
<head>soulsoother head</head>
<slot01>strobe</slot01>
<slot02>strobe ii</slot02>
<slot03>heat capacitor ii</slot03>
<slot04>mana jammer iv</slot04>
<slot05>mana jammer iii</slot05>
<slot06>regulator</slot06>
<slot07>armor plate iv</slot07>
<slot08>barrier module ii</slot08>
<slot09>auto-repair kit iv</slot09>
<slot10>optic fiber</slot10>
<slot11>optic fiber ii</slot11>
<slot12>flashbulb</slot12>

You could also try a steam jacket, since it spams only ice related spells.
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By suuhja 2021-02-16 21:51:45
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On VD, I see a little over 300 damage per cast with the turtle tanking set in the guide. Mana jammers 3 and 4, steam jacket, fire/light/water maneuvers.

Lock pet dt set (disable emnity swaps) during manafont and shouldn't dent the automaton past 70% or so.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-02-16 21:57:15
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Maybe the spells just aren't as strong as I expect them to be. Just didn't want to jump into it and look bad lol.
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By Korgull 2021-02-16 22:38:28
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Maybe the spells just aren't as strong as I expect them to be. Just didn't want to jump into it and look bad lol.

I thought you already had a bad experience; its really easy tbh, just remember to switch to double light on manafont.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-02-16 22:45:00
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Nah, I was doing N's with not pups and getting hit for like 99% hp lol (no shell low mdt)

hadn't taken pup at all

I just know that Odin on VD does some serious magical damage and figured 15 blizzaja nines chainspelled wouldn't be pretty.
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By Aerix 2021-02-17 00:01:44
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Nah, I was doing N's with not pups and getting hit for like 99% hp lol (no shell low mdt)

hadn't taken pup at all

I just know that Odin on VD does some serious magical damage and figured 15 blizzaja nines chainspelled wouldn't be pretty.

Anything that uses only one element will get heavily neutered by Steam Jacket, including Odin. 1 Water Maneuver and some DT gear will easily cap the maton's MDT (or even 0 WM with the right gear), while the Mana Jammers add a ton of MDB on top of that.
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By Undula 2021-02-17 08:52:44
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Does anyone have expirience with soloing T1/T2 mobs in Odyssey/ Gaol?
It would be nice to know if any of those NMs is outright impossible to solo to not waste KIs.
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By Bahamut.Yiazmat 2021-02-17 18:36:05
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When will SE make a Foil attachement and and curaga spells for Maton ? ...
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By Asura.Briko 2021-02-17 19:55:04
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Bahamut.Yiazmat said: »
When will SE make a Foil attachement and and curaga spells for Maton ? ...
My wishlist is Tandem Blows and a subtle blow attachment :(
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By Quetzalcoatl.Avengers 2021-02-21 00:40:33
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Aerix said: »
Asura.Nalfey said: »
Aerix said: »
Edit: Herculean/Tali'ah are dead, long live Mpaca! Head/Body/Legs are BiS for WSs, Hands/Feet for TP/Pet burn. And Neo Animator might turn out to be competitive, if we're lucky? Aw yiss.


Hey Aerix,
Would you mind elaborating a bit more on this please.

Are you using Mpaca Head/Body/Legs just for Shijin Spiral and Howling/Raging Fists ? or for all WSs ?

Mpaca Hands/Feet are they for Master+Pet engaged TP set or only the Pet engaged alone TP set ?

Also would you keep the Mpaca Feet for Pet only WSing ? with the Automation lvl+1 ? or keep Naga Kyahan as pet WS Feet?

Thanks a lot !

I was being a bit facetious with that post, but going by the numbers I got in the spreadsheet while using the sets from the first page guide as basis (just substitute slots with Mpaca as mentioned):

Stringing Pummel:
Mpaca body/legs and possibly feet are BiS (Ryuo and Herc hit harder, but don't have the massive Acc)

Victory Smite:
Same as above, except augmented Mpaca might be useful over R15 Blistering Sallet +1 despite doing less WS damage, as the Skillchain Bonus would be quite significant for our Light SCs (which is the main use for VSmite these days)

Howling Fist/Raging:
Mpaca head/legs

Shijin:
No Mpaca unless you don't feel like making DEX/TA/Acc/Atk herc pieces

TP:
  • AM3 up, no DD maton: full malignance or mixed with Ryuo for max STP

  • AM3 up or no AM3 with DD maton: Heyoka head/legs, Mpaca body/hands/feet mix

  • no AM3, no maton: Ryuo head/legs, Tali'ah body, Herc hands/feet mix for fastest tp or full mpaca/malignance for safety without sacrificing too much TP speed



Mpaca and Malignance make it really easy to cap PDT or DT these days and to be honest, max DPS isn't really a necessity for any content. Being dead means no DPS, so I'd personally recommend going the safer routes.

Just got clear today, this is good info on what to aim for first, thanks. Not sure if I want to AG my ken or buy the armor first. lol
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By Aerix 2021-02-21 00:57:40
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Get the armor first to start RPing. R15 Kenkonken is amazing, in my opinion, but there are other weapons that come close enough. Mpaca is pretty fantastic TP gear that generally benefits non-AM3 weapons a bit more due to the multiattack. Karambit also benefits greatly from the Heyoka/Mpaca crit.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Avengers 2021-02-21 01:58:54
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sadly, will probably be some time before I can start RPing for them, don't really have a clear group for it, just went with LS members for a clear. So gear will probably be non R15 for awhile for me
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By SimonSes 2021-02-21 02:00:04
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Quetzalcoatl.Avengers said: »
sadly, will probably be some time before I can start RPing for them, don't really have a clear group for it, just went with LS members for a clear. So gear will probably be non R15 for awhile for me

You mean R20 or R30 :)
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