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By Taint 2026-01-26 14:58:49
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BST and Monstrosity need to be combined. Miniaturize the models but keep the system and nerf/buff over the next year to balance it all.
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-01-26 15:44:26
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Nariont said: »
This can be applied to all of the pet jobs
To different extents, but yeah absolutely concur with that.

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last big "adjustment" iirc was them taking merit spells out and replacing them with merit traits instead
Speaking of which, how nice would it be if they allowed us to get a third 5/5 upgrade in each #1 and #2 merits? <3
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By Dodik 2026-01-26 15:57:30
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Pet jobs are held back by the clunky UI and having to press buttons to get pet to do anything, which leads to pathing fun, server lag, clunkiness and Mavis Beacons Teaches XI syndrome.
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By ilugmat 2026-01-26 16:08:09
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People need to stop saying SE in relation to updates, there are 3 people assigned to the game and 1 isn't even supposed to do anything but paperwork as the producer.

Considering that they are doing a lot, they are also working on more complex things behind the scenes like blue and trust changes.

If an update just says about Ambuscade, there is no update. That's just a maintenance day.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-01-26 16:40:39
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Asura.Hya said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
thats their excuse to shut down the servers
Set us free.
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By euvedant 2026-01-26 17:21:02
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Nariont said: »
Asura.Sechs said: »
Small stuff like that is something they definitely should do.
But "fixing" the job to the root is frankly impossible at this point imho.

This can be applied to all of the pet jobs, and even some of the non-pets that are in a bit of an awkward spot(THF, NIN as ex.) but SE seems to be in the mindset of just adding to jobs rather than going back and readjusting/upgrading older things, last big "adjustment" iirc was them taking merit spells out and replacing them with merit traits instead, cant remember if PLD/MNK changes came before or after that but those were the last big(relatively) job overhauls, everything else has just been an addition.

In short give me a scorpion SE

Ninja is working as intended. It has tank stance, dd stance, magical ws dmg, ninjutsu burst damage, high evasion, and subtle blow. It’s not as high physical damage as war, drk, Sam, Drg, but it has a lot of unique abilities. It does great in limbus NMs!
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2026-01-26 17:27:40
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SimonSes said: »
I will kinda disagree here. BST was recently massively buffed through items.

Hoxne Ampulla
Ikenga axe
Diamond Aspis

Do we really think it's acceptable to view
a) a gil-sink accessory designed to appeal mostly to the elite players (with a base price tag that's more than a R15 Mythic),
b) a weapon that needs Odyssey v25 T3 clears to access its truly valuable augment, and
c) an ultra-limited mog bonanza weapon (and if you missed out on the freebie or had another priority, OOPS too bad)

As good ways to do job balancing?

You're not wrong that those items have value for BST (among other jobs), but if you actually wanted to improve a job, those items aren't all that viable for the vast majority of players.

Especially considering this is BST we're talking about. BSTs are already antisocial weirdos who want to hang out with French cats, kind slugs, and big crickets instead of, you know, other PEOPLE. That makes Ody NMs even harder, and my gil is already stretched a little thin due to my cigarette, wine, and baguette budget for me and my buddy Vivacious Gaston.

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they want BST to watch from 20 yalms how their PETS do the damage and they want to charm stuff and cricket to one shot group of twenty Apex mobs like it does non ilvl stuff.

I mean, they wouldn't complain! And by they, I mean me.


(note that I have no idea why a monthly update being small turned into BST JOB ADJUSTMENTS discussion hour, but hey let's roll with it. I'm sure not actually expecting any attention to improving BST via job balancing efforts though.)
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By Nariont 2026-01-26 17:47:16
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euvedant said: »
Ninja is working as intended. It has tank stance, dd stance, magical ws dmg, ninjutsu burst damage, high evasion, and subtle blow. It’s not as high physical damage as war, drk, Sam, Drg, but it has a lot of unique abilities. It does great in limbus NMs!

And it doesnt excel at any of those roles(especially in tanking anything above 1 mob), it's a RDM except RDM still has its enfeeb/enhancing and now DD aspect to stand out, what nin does have is good physical mitigation which yes for limbus is great because old content encounters didnt yet have shadow stripping as their default, this is also true for alot of ody climbs if you wanna use nin in place of another DD they can do pretty well since hybrids can be exploited pretty regularly in there.

Still pretty poor elsewhere though, not unusable but not a 1st 2nd or 3rd choice either, granted this isnt unique to nin, plenty of other jobs(like pets) are in this spot and ill say that unlike THF, NIN can still use 90% of its kit solo, so it can always be worse.

Now if they keep putting out more older mob types then NIN can probably find its niche among those kinda like how it was in Dyna-D for a time, which is nice i suppose, and is probably the best place NIN can be in; mid-upper mid if hybrids work that can basically ignore phys dmg/eat a killing TP move through migawari
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