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By Shiva.Malthar 2017-06-11 20:21:50
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How does Rune Fencer defend against meteor if meteor is non elemental? One for All, Shell, DT and its 2hr? What are other ways?
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By Blazed1979 2017-06-11 20:41:12
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with lazer beams - pew pew
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/ne0710-planetary-defense.jpg
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2017-06-11 20:43:20
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Avoid going into Omen on Dark Day !
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By Bahamut.Alexcennah 2017-06-11 21:05:29
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Meteor is non-elemental. That old talk about monsters' Meteor being dark damage is just falacy from level 75 era.

Besides DT- sets, RUN has incredibly high MEva and MDB, especially with lots of JPs. At this point, Valiance and Vallation are mostly to protect your party and for Inspiration.

There's still a misconception about RUN as tank. It's not "how a RUN can survive magic damage like an Aegis PLD"? It's the other way around: "how a PLD can dabble in RUN's levels of magic defense"? "Using an Aegis", of course.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-06-11 21:21:33
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Shiva.Malthar said: »
How does Rune Fencer defend against meteor if meteor is non elemental? One for All, Shell, DT and its 2hr? What are other ways?
Get a PLD with Aegis instead.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2017-06-11 21:49:18
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Meteor is non-elemental. That old talk about monsters' Meteor being dark damage is just falacy from level 75 era.

What I ment is that Ou will do different magic depending on what day it is. On Dark Day it unlocks (Chainspell) Meteor to make your life just a little harder compared to the other days.
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By Yandaime 2017-06-11 21:57:11
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I could have sworn extensive testing was done at the 75 era to prove that Monster-Meteor was Dark Elemental? Several bouts of dealing with King Behemoth and Absolute Virtue? If I remember correctly, a maxed out Bar-Dark BRD song + all gear one could muster was the only way to survive AV's Bracelet Meteor?

Obviously this would be 75 era and could have LONG SENSE been changed but I don't think it was a myth?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Khajit 2017-06-11 22:14:59
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Kb is still darkness based since I remember people occasionally subbing run for darkness resist via runes.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-06-11 22:21:40
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Shiva.Malthar said: »
How does Rune Fencer defend against meteor if meteor is non elemental? One for All, Shell, DT and its 2hr? What are other ways?

Easily capped MDT and ridiculous levels of MDB and MEVD. Meteor hits me for like 100 damage. If a RUN doesn't understand these things then they need to go change to COR or GEO and let a real player tank.
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By Bahamut.Alexcennah 2017-06-11 23:04:20
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Quetzalcoatl.Khajit said: »
Kb is still darkness based since I remember people occasionally subbing run for darkness resist via runes.

There's some talk about this here. And I can say from my own experiences as well. I never managed to absorb a Meteor not even once. So, yes, I'm very sure it's non-elemental damage.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2017-06-11 23:13:00
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Your geo can also use fade. Use Aettir. Embolden shell v and we'll times OFAs
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-06-11 23:38:15
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Just did Ou, tanked in my "PDT" set, Meteor hit me for 157 a couple times...what's the issue, exactly?
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-06-11 23:39:43
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Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Just did Ou, tanked in my "PDT" set, Meteor hit me for 157 a couple times...what's the issue, exactly?

What is your "PDT" set?
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-06-11 23:46:36
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Leviathan.Brotherhood said: »
Asura.Ladyofhonor said: »
Just did Ou, tanked in my "PDT" set, Meteor hit me for 157 a couple times...what's the issue, exactly?

What is your "PDT" set?

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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-06-11 23:48:52
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thank you Loh
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-06-12 01:35:42
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Question about Meteor then, Including Spell and Onca suit, Beast like Behemoth and NMs cast the spell Meteor or is it a job ability?

Should be obvious but we have x2 ways to do it so I assume there are more than 1 way for monsters as well.
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By Bahadir 2017-06-12 05:10:11
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Asura.Deadwing said: »
Labeling Meteor as non-elemental is a common misconception. It is and always was dark resistance based.

Is there any easier cheaper test subject than King Behemoth? (Does the normal one use Meteor?) Ill just try Liement and that way find out whether its (dark) Elemental dmg or not. If I can find a Blm for a pvp Ill confirm the same for the player version as well.
(Even though the player version should be easier to verify with Pixie Hairpin no?)
 
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By Odin.Horu 2017-06-12 07:48:32
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or Legion, that has alot depending on the floor
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By Bahadir 2017-06-12 08:10:54
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Thx for the advice. Ill check when Im home later. Ill report back ~
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By eliroo 2017-06-12 08:47:29
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Quick and easy way to check would just be Liement correct?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2017-06-12 09:17:09
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By Bahadir 2017-06-12 13:10:49
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eliroo said: »
Quick and easy way to check would just be Liement correct?
Yea thats what I did. Unless lagg screwed up the timing Meteor is neither Dark nor light nor fire dmg (tested just in case).
Tested in legion until time ran out. was even forced to dismiss Joachim cause he was about to wear the Behemoth down with his pebbles lol

-> Monster Meteor is not Dark/Light/Fire dmg.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-06-12 13:23:00
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Bahadir said: »
Monster Meteor is not Dark/Light/Fire dmg.

Believe it was established along time ago that it was non-elementat, but thanks for confirming. I think it's Ecliptic Meteor that's dark based.
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By clearlyamule 2017-06-12 13:26:15
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Monstrosity meteors definitely are dark. Can't land that on any dark mobs worth ***
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By Asura.Pergatory 2017-06-12 18:38:21
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BLM Meteor is definitely not dark either. Tested on Darksday vs. Firesday, both with & without elemental obi. All damage was the same against a Lv100 mandragora.
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By Leviathan.Brotherhood 2017-06-12 19:48:04
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As was said already, Maybe Identify the various types of Meteor and figure out each one.

Easy to get a BLM to use in PvP or even a group if you really wana test it.
Can do Onca Suit 1, Single Meteor 2, Group 3, and then go test Ks99 and WoE and Aby lathane and even various pop NM in escha zones also as said Eclipse Meteor and Meteor should/are diff but test both same way
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2017-06-12 20:00:55
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Does it really matter if all known (or rather, relevant) versions of the spell is non-elemental and purely a matter of meva/mdef?
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