Super Kupowers: Artisan's Advantage

Working any good for anyone?

It's not working for me at all and I did not get any good comments from friends... what about you?

I've heard, although I can't for the life of me remember where (go go reliable sources), that it's only in affect when you have synthesis image support, and it only affects your chances at losing items when you fail a synth. So it won't do anything at all for your HQ or fail rate, but has a chance at saving you some gil on breaks IF you have synthesis support.

I had synthesis support for past days and when I break I keep losing loads of materials... I wonder if normal or HQ synth support is making a difference...

signet too? that might have something to do with it D:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Artisan%27s_Advantage

Artisan's Advantage: The chance of losing ingredients in a failed synthesis attempt is drastically reduced while the crafter has Synthesis Image Support from their respective guild.

How it was verified, I don't know.

I will try that and NQ support... but you get the other powers without signet... like the free outpost warps.

It said in update notes that it only works with image support. I've really noticed no real difference with it. And I did 70 lvls of bone during a week with that

Yeah, I'm reasonably certain it's not verified. But if you have a heap of super expensive synths to do, wait for artisan's advantage, get signet and image support go for it. Basically cross all your t's and dot all your i's "just in case".

Doesn't the vampire and TH one need signet?

Not sure and my wiki bookmark is all the way over there, but swift shoes you definitely don't.

Oh I should verify that! Will try with signet I have like 60 synth to do, will probably see a difference if the signet is involved!

SE had it in their update notes awhile back that you need guild support. i don't know how much more verification you want other than that.

FWIW I recently leveled cooking from 10 - 85 with Artisan's Advantage and I used Advanced Support fairly regularly. I noticed that when I had a break I would only loose 1 or 2 materials instead of losing all of them. Sometimes I'd only break the crystal.

It only cost me about 200k and I made it all by back selling some of the finished products. Without AA it probably would cost me a lot more.

Vampire one needs signet I know for sure.

"Artisan's Advantage" The chances of losing ingredients due to failed synthesis will be significantly lowered!

Straight from PoL. Heres the address http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/guide/mogtab/index.html

I take this as it says, you don't need signet or support and it's worked for me.
Happy Crafting

I crafted a lot lot lot with artisan's advantage(and guild support) and I can say it DOESN'T work for me at all... very very disappointed.

There was some message that I read on POL about this. You DO need to have the support synth (the free one) on you for this to work at the least.

Have I personally noticed a difference? NO.

Sad face.

well it's junk either way, first time i crafted with it on 3 breaks all crits in a row. didn't do anything special.

IDK i think its like the ring a 1% on loss which isnt ***.

sad face indeed.

After a year or so with Moglification: Alchemy I can say that the difference isn't very noticable in most recipes that have alot of ingredients. Remedy has 8 ingredients and if it breaks I'll still get some to drop because 8x chances for a drop there. In Desynths and Recipes with fewer ingredients I think that the affect is noticeable.

The crafting rings are also a very key crafting tool. Some recipes have the condition where HQ means nothing and breaks are a bad loss. For instance in making ingots for the metal crafts, its a pain to lose ores so use the ring it is very noticeable difference. Another good example are Hakutaku Eye Clusters, those always drop all if the synth breaks so the -1% break rate is important. Break rates for many items are already just 2-10% (it seems, depending on item) for non-skillups so -1% kind of alot.

I just like how they wrote "significantly lowered"... Just another let down from them lol. I can live with it, I was just disappointed it wasn't representative of what the description was. If that + Moglification together can ever save me a costly material on a usually 100% full break synth, I will be happy enough! ^^

Well this is probably just co-incidence but i didn't get one HQ out of 128 synths the firtst time i had this Kopwer. Many being Tier2. Since then i don't craft for HQ during Artisans Advantage.

I've tryed to syth most my food with support on during artisan's advantage, When I fail a craft i do seem to keep a few more materials then normal. But then again i've lost every ingredient also when failing. So it just needs more testing and info imo.

It should be called Artisan's False Hope. I hold my breath when I hear a break, daring to hope that I won't need to run halfway across Vana'diel to replace a material, only to groan when I see the list of losses.

I did see that someone claimed to have had it save them a Divine Log once though, so not all bad. I don't know that I'd call it "significantly reduced" by any stretch of imagination.

with artisan advantage and max smithing and relatives subs i went 1/2 haubergeon +1, 1/4 hachiman kote +1 and 0/5 on onyx galdings gl

It's nice for desynthesis and breaksynthing. Though I noticed more difference on the first (higher natural break rate) than the second.

Every time I've used Synth Support with Artisan's Advantage, I've lost ALL materials about 90% of the time. It was with Signet on, as well. So I usually wait until the Kupowers wipe to start crafting again, because to me, it's just not worth it at all.

It worked fine for me, u need signet and be in a cop or zilart area.

And where would Artisans advantage help here?



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