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By fonewear 2016-09-25 08:48:30
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Anna Ruthven said: »
I don't know why we can't just hire someone to take my goddamn phone call.

Hell, even the telemarketers have them now as do the people who buy debt just to bug you about it. I don't owe debt but I do get calls for some reason. You get an automated call that tells you to stay on the line. You don't call me over to put me on hold, that's how ***doesn't work.

Also, I never understood why third-party debt collection is legal. I don't think you should be able to buy someone's debt and personal information.

It's simple the people in India do it for less money !
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-25 08:50:36
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In my opinion i hate the idea of machines taking over human jobs it's one of the many reasons we are seeing large unemployment numbers around the nation because some industries are switching over to machines to do jobs humans use to do.
9-24-2016, a day that will live in infamy.

You actually said something I can agree with.
It's inevitable though. For every group of people that perform manual work there will be half that will take over as programmer/maintenance staff of the machine that substitute them(already happened and happening in many areas). So we have shifting jobs and shifting popular sectors but of course it isn't sustainable in the long run, so the options are either to
1. halt progress, which I find ridiculuous
2. work towards welfare states because the future doesn't have jobs for everyone...but that's so socialist! Okay then I guess there's the third option too..
3. let them eat cakes

Welfare States are not progress
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By fonewear 2016-09-25 08:54:48
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Anna Ruthven said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
In my opinion i hate the idea of machines taking over human jobs it's one of the many reasons we are seeing large unemployment numbers around the nation because some industries are switching over to machines to do jobs humans use to do.
9-24-2016, a day that will live in infamy.

You actually said something I can agree with.
It's inevitable though. For every group of people that perform manual work there will be half that will take over as programmer/maintenance staff of the machine that substitute them(already happened and happening in many areas). So we have shifting jobs and shifting popular sectors but of course it isn't sustainable in the long run, so the options are either to
1. halt progress, which I find ridiculuous
2. work towards welfare states because the future doesn't have jobs for everyone...but that's so socialist! Okay then I guess there's the third option too..
3. let them eat cakes

Welfare States are not progress
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-09-25 08:58:44
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fonewear said: »
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4. Exterminate the poor

If you read the fine print on Google's legal disclaimer you will see this written !

It's dirt simple. Invest in evil companies that exploit people and robots...profit

Laughing at people that think they can change a world we spent a hundred years destroying...priceless
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By fonewear 2016-09-25 09:04:55
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Well with moral relativism liberals aren't even sure evil exists !
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By fonewear 2016-09-25 09:08:05
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I bet if you ask Hillary she can't even tell you what evil is. Yet she embodies ever aspect of it !
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-25 09:12:29
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
fonewear said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
4. Exterminate the poor

If you read the fine print on Google's legal disclaimer you will see this written !

It's dirt simple. Invest in evil companies that exploit people and robots...profit

Laughing at people that think they can change a world we spent a hundred years destroying...priceless

I know about the programs and people who have spent hundreds of years destroying the worlds nations. They may still be laughing today but I along with the american people and the rest of the world will have the last laugh as we put them to justice and rebuild our nations and world. It has been a long time coming for a Political Awakening for Truth and Justice.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-25 09:17:42
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Yes i can revive America 1776 and restore the the freedoms and rights We The People " Use" to have. Also before you ask "what did we lose ?" I want you to look at all the laws we have in the united states of america. Laws take away freedoms and rights and during my term of service i will work with congress repealing thousands of Laws saving the american people a lot of money in the process of doing so. Laws cost American taxpayers money and i want to make sure i keep the american people's money in there own pockets and not the governments.
Laws don't take people's freedoms away. Unless you think that talking on one's cellphone while driving should be considered a freedom. If that's the case, then there is no talking with you.

Next thing you are going to say is to get rid of the police/fire/emergency services department because it costs the taxpayers money. That is your argument against laws.

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I clearly said "We will still maintain the same civil rights today if not better civil rights". I even bolded it in the quote above. I am not sure if you came to your own conclusion again that i want to take away people's civil rights which i do not want to do. I want to give even more civil rights back to them. Do you have a problem with American citizens having more civil rights if so suck it up i'm going to give them more.
You can't say "I want to revert America back to the founding age" while still saying "I'm going to keep the laws and regulations that make America what it is today" at the same time.

And you can't combine the two together, because if you do, all you get is what we have today, so your whole point is null.

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I agree with you about you don't get magically elected president of the united states of america magically. It takes votes casted by american citizens and electoral college votes as well and i do understand how many i will need.
Why would anyone vote for you? You haven't given a good case as to why people should.

Ask yourself this: Do people honestly believe in the same things you do? Use this website as an example of the number of people who believe in your ideas vs. are against it. And multiply that by the number of people in the US.

You will see that, at most, only 1/1,000,000th of 1% of the voter population will vote for you. Which is to say, 1.4 people.

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I'll give you credit for voting even if you do not vote for me but your vote alone does not mean i can't be the president. Also you do not speak for the rest of the over 350 million citizens of the united states of america and their voting choice. I understand there is a possibility of me not winning. I do not give up i'll just have to wait another 4 years. I strongly believe Americans are fed up with these political party organizations and they want their government back Constitution Restored and i will do that for them with there help.
Honestly, how many people do you think would vote for you? And how did you come to that conclusion? Did you take a poll of a random selection of people, asked them if they would vote for you, and come up with that number? Or are you pulling this out of your own ***?

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Not only do i want to see products with the Label stamp "Made In The USA" i want to also see under that Label stamp " Made by a Human"

Technology can be a blessing but in the arena of manufacturing jobs in the united states it can be a human job stealer. This will be one of the issues we as a nation will have to face together to keep Americans working. I believe we can put Americans back to work with leadership that is on the side of American workers.
Personally, I rather have my things made by a machine than a human.

A machine is less likely to make mistakes, and their mistakes can be caught during quality control procedures. Very rarely would their mistakes bypass QC and make it out to the marketplace.

Humans, even with the assistance of machines, can make many more mistakes and pass them through QC than a machine-only manufactured item can.

And the types of mistakes humans can make can cause other people to get seriously injured or even die, depending on the product in question. At the very least, it doesn't meet with specifications and gets sent back to the factory, which is a waste of resources to do so.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-25 09:20:26
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
I know about the programs and people who have spent hundreds of years destroying the worlds nations.
So that's where you get your outlandish ideas! Now we are seeing the true Lordgrim and his wish to destroy the world's economy.

He is parroting his beliefs on the ill-conceived notion that other people are destroying the world, and he doesn't like that they aren't being productive in their destruction.

So he puts his ideas into place and gets it done in a much faster timeline.

It all makes sense now!

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They may still be laughing today but I along with the american people and the rest of the world will have the last laugh as we put them to justice and rebuild our nations and world.
You need to be put into pasture instead.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-25 09:27:32
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »

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Not only do i want to see products with the Label stamp "Made In The USA" i want to also see under that Label stamp " Made by a Human"

Technology can be a blessing but in the arena of manufacturing jobs in the united states it can be a human job stealer. This will be one of the issues we as a nation will have to face together to keep Americans working. I believe we can put Americans back to work with leadership that is on the side of American workers.
Personally, I rather have my things made by a machine than a human.

A machine is less likely to make mistakes, and their mistakes can be caught during quality control procedures. Very rarely would their mistakes bypass QC and make it out to the marketplace.

Humans, even with the assistance of machines, can make many more mistakes and pass them through QC than a machine-only manufactured item can.

And the types of mistakes humans can make can cause other people to get seriously injured or even die, depending on the product in question. At the very least, it doesn't meet with specifications and gets sent back to the factory, which is a waste of resources to do so.

Then by this admission you are not on the side of American workers and you agree with the emotionless sehachan sehachan that welfare states are progress. I already knew this about you because you like the idea of free trade deals.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-25 09:31:17
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
They may still be laughing today but I along with the american people and the rest of the world will have the last laugh as we put them to justice and rebuild our nations and world.
You need to be put into pasture instead.

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-25 09:48:00
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Then by this admission you are not on the side of American workers and you agree with the emotionless sehachan sehachan that welfare states are progress. I already knew this about you because you like the idea of free trade deals.
Wait, you think that things made by machines are against the American worker?

You do realize that a lot of products made in America is machine-made, right? And those machine-made products are also made by American workers too, right?

And yes, I do like the idea of free trade agreements. I think we get shafted on most of them, but I do like that we made them, as they benefit all more than they hurt.

Let me ask you this: Do you want to pay $500 for a 32' TV, or do you want to pay $5,000 for a 32' TV? Both are the same quality, both are made at the same factory, and both are assembled in the US, so it would keep it's "Made in the US" seal. While we are at it, both use the same components and are identical in every way.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-25 09:48:24
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
They may still be laughing today but I along with the american people and the rest of the world will have the last laugh as we put them to justice and rebuild our nations and world.
You need to be put into pasture instead.

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Do you even know what that expression means?
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By fonewear 2016-09-25 09:49:51
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What reading this thread is like:

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By fonewear 2016-09-25 09:56:07
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I feel like some of us are sane and the rest are so insane that everyone seems insane !
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By fonewear 2016-09-25 09:57:03
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And no I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job. Or any other conspiracy ***.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-09-25 10:00:06
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The proles will never rise! Read a book! 1984 is a good place to start. Fall in love with Big Brother!

Poverty is a lack of intelligence and perseverance not a lack of money.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-25 10:02:00
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
They may still be laughing today but I along with the american people and the rest of the world will have the last laugh as we put them to justice and rebuild our nations and world.
You need to be put into pasture instead.

you first
Do you even know what that expression means?

I answered your question and you then ask me another question about the same question i answered. It's your fault for not understanding
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By fonewear 2016-09-25 10:02:17
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The proles will never rise! Read a book! 1984 is a good place to start. Fall in love with Big Brother!

Poverty is a lack of intelligence and perseverance not a lack of money.

Now in non reading form. Cause I'm anti reading !

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By Shiva.Nikolce 2016-09-25 10:02:39
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I feel like some of us are sane

Sanity is an illusion.
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By fonewear 2016-09-25 10:08:29
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There is an easy way to tell who is insane or who is sane:

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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-25 10:10:15
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fonewear said: »
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The proles will never rise! Read a book! 1984 is a good place to start. Fall in love with Big Brother!

Poverty is a lack of intelligence and perseverance not a lack of money.

Now in non reading form. Cause I'm anti reading !

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Foneware i love audiobooks too !! but i also love the nostalgia of turning pages with my own hands. I didn't know this was on audio book, thank you you rock !!!!!! now i can enjoy this cruising to work.
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By fonewear 2016-09-25 10:11:18
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I can only enjoy audio books cause I gave up reading when I was 5 years old.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-09-25 10:13:40
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
4. Exterminate the poor
Yes there is also that "solution".
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By Garuda.Chanti 2016-09-25 10:35:26
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Not only do i want to see products with the Label stamp "Made In The USA" i want to also see under that Label stamp " Made by a Human"

Technology can be a blessing but in the arena of manufacturing jobs in the united states it can be a human job stealer....
Waitafrickingminute.

I have often sewn for my living but always with a sewing machine. Is that "Made by a Human"? How about if I use a modern, computerized, programmable sewing machine? I guarantee you that seamstresses in mid century Hong Kong did it all by hand. That is the baseline for "Made by a Human". What's the end point?

Its a slippery slope.
The end point is putting as many american workers back to work in as many industry fields as possible. I understand what you mean by for the baseline "Made by a Human" and yes machines and technology are made by humans. It's not a slippery slop at all, i will need to be visiting the United States Department of Labor to work out some policies that could possibly lead to the United States of America's 3rd Industrial Revolution putting americans back to work in these 50 states from sea to shining sea
So no more sewing machines? I have to sew and embroider by hand?

P. S. Even Singers are no longer made in the USA.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2016-09-25 10:39:49
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I never said no more sewing machines and you can if you choose to sew and embroider by hand. There is a market for both styles. There are some consumers who do prefer the quality of work done by handcraft and appreciate it more.
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By fonewear 2016-09-25 10:50:20
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Imagine a world without sewing machines. It's a tragedy that must be stopped !
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My wife loves crocheting, I personally am not a fan of wearing hats and scarfs i use to wear them but i kept seeing Made in China ect. I do work outside mostly and i remember a few winters ago being really cold so she asked me if i would wear a hat and scarf made by her. I told her if she could that also agreed with my jobs dress code i would wear them. So she looked through my jobs handbook and went to work crocheting by hand. When she was done she presented to me both the hat and scarf. She even put a label inside that said Made In USA with love.

To this very day i have never known cold because that hat and scarf kept me warm and i valued it immensely and i know American consumers would feel pride wearing and buying products once again Made In USA with love
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2016-09-25 11:45:23
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
I never said no more sewing machines and you can if you choose to sew and embroider by hand. There is a market for both styles. There are some consumers who do prefer the quality of work done by handcraft and appreciate it more.
Some, but not many.

If you can market it, then great. But you would be more able to sell stuff machine-made. And it would cost less too.

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My wife
There's a joke there somewhere.

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my jobs
Another joke there somewhere.

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To this very day i have never known cold because that hat and scarf kept me warm and i valued it immensely and i know American consumers would feel pride wearing and buying products once again Made In USA with love
Not sure if you are saying that only American products can keep people warm....

Cause I have a hundred thousand examples to prove you wrong, and it's at your local mall.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2016-09-25 11:57:31
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
i know American consumers would feel pride wearing and buying products once again Made In USA with love

But most of them wouldn't care because they would rather have the cheaper, just as good, option because so many things in the US are too expensive and they can't afford to spend more on most things.
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