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By Asura.Orij 2016-06-23 16:10:06
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Yup
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By Asura.Foreverj 2016-06-23 16:33:37
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I don't think anyone in the right mind would pay 700 million for one of these.
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By Asura.Orij 2016-06-23 16:37:40
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Didnt think people would pay 650 either
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By Asura.Foreverj 2016-06-23 16:43:37
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Basically u targeting the Gil exploiters. Or other crafters. Cause you know even the people who mercs ain't gonna pay 700 million either.
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By Asura.Orij 2016-06-23 16:57:35
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can *** all you want. troll all you want. dont want to pay that much then dont?
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By Asura.Foreverj 2016-06-23 17:17:41
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I'm not trolling but just pointing out the obvious. Anyone who pays 400 million and up should really question what they doing with their life. Or the type of spending decisions they make in real life.
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By Asura.Orij 2016-06-23 17:54:04
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dont see how their spending effects you in any way.
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By Felgarr 2016-06-23 18:51:24
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This is my problem with the HQ Cursed gear. Everyone who makes one thinks their sitting on a gold mine, a personal lottery ticket every time one is made.

The data on Jinxed Jacket sales doesn't warrant a 650M price tag, even if you rule out mules, folks selling to themselves, etc.

Good luck in your sale sir, but I wouldn't pay more than 200-300M for any of the HQ bodies.
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By Afania 2016-06-23 19:31:23
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Asura.Foreverj said: »
I'm not trolling but just pointing out the obvious. Anyone who pays 400 million and up should really question what they doing with their life. Or the type of spending decisions they make in real life.

700mil roughly equal to the price of 2.3 AG mythics. Considering plenty of people own more than 2 AG mythics, I wonder why wouldn't you pop in front of everyone of them and tell them they have no life.
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By Asura.Foreverj 2016-06-23 19:41:23
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Afania said: »
Asura.Foreverj said: »
I'm not trolling but just pointing out the obvious. Anyone who pays 400 million and up should really question what they doing with their life. Or the type of spending decisions they make in real life.

700mil roughly equal to the price of 2.3 AG mythics. Considering plenty of people own more than 2 AG mythics, I wonder why wouldn't you pop in front of everyone of them and tell them they have no life.

You talking one purchase for one jacket versus 2 ag weapons. One ag weapon alone is worth way more then a jacket. making that ag weapon through 1-2 months is not the same as throwing 650 million on one jacket in 1 minute.
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By Bismarck.Dunigs 2016-06-23 19:42:29
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Felgarr said: »
This is my problem with the HQ Cursed gear. Everyone who makes one thinks their sitting on a gold mine, a personal lottery ticket every time one is made.

The data on Jinxed Jacket sales doesn't warrant a 650M price tag, even if you rule out mules, folks selling to themselves, etc.

Good luck in your sale sir, but I wouldn't pay more than 200-300M for any of the HQ bodies.

Well, I think most people base that price tag on HQ Amalric. Given how piss easy Alchemy is to level compared to any other non-cooking craft, and the current endgame popularity of mage jobs, I think it makes sense that a decent supply has popped up with a lower price point. I'd argue Adhemar probably has lower supply due to likely fewer bonecrafters in general, plus questionable demand at best (fewer individuals looking to max out their dual-wield job when it can't even participate in Reisenjima T4). All anecdotal of course, mostly based on number of threads looking to buy Amalric +1 here.

Regardless I think limited data plays both ways, you can say there's not enough AH data to justify 650M, but this also means its hard to say what it's worth at all, and defaulting its price to Amalric +1 is not a valid justification for a 200-300M price tag.

He could very well get 700M for it. While I doubt it, I'll admit I have no idea. No reason for everyone to chastise him for coming in high though, he'll adjust accordingly if he needs to (not talking to you on this point since your post was level headed obviously).
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By Asura.Orij 2016-06-23 19:53:59
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It's not all a gold mine nor the lottery. Regardless of who makes it not what it's the fact that the price of them have a huge variety of different numbers it ultimately comes down to what the consumer wants to pay for it. For example I've gone through 800m trying to hq another jinxed since my last.
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By Afania 2016-06-23 21:34:50
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Asura.Foreverj said: »
Afania said: »
Asura.Foreverj said: »
I'm not trolling but just pointing out the obvious. Anyone who pays 400 million and up should really question what they doing with their life. Or the type of spending decisions they make in real life.

700mil roughly equal to the price of 2.3 AG mythics. Considering plenty of people own more than 2 AG mythics, I wonder why wouldn't you pop in front of everyone of them and tell them they have no life.

You talking one purchase for one jacket versus 2 ag weapons. One ag weapon alone is worth way more then a jacket. making that ag weapon through 1-2 months is not the same as throwing 650 million on one jacket in 1 minute.

Whether a gear is worth the price tag or not is very subjective. But the point is that the amount of time to make 2 AG mythics should be the same as getting the hq jacket. By that logic everyone who own 2 AG mythics are no lifers because they spent same amount of time to do it.

I love how every sell hq item thread will get at least 1 "it's not worth etttt!" troll comment.
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By sabrtooth 2016-06-23 22:05:57
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Afania why are you alway so free????

Dun you need to work ? @.@!
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By Ragnarok.Slyshen 2016-06-23 22:24:29
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If you were trying to sell something worth 700M why would you sell it for 200M? Now THAT would be crazy. Also, what's worth it to you might NOT be worth it to someone else, so you can't really say something isn't 'worth it'. I always have people tell me they won't pay a certain price for something and "no one in the right would", only to have them sell. Sometimes it's just a game of patience. Most end-game crafters don't live from one HQ synth to the other and don't need that item to sell right away.
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By Asura.Foreverj 2016-06-23 23:20:07
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Afania said: »
Asura.Foreverj said: »
Afania said: »
Asura.Foreverj said: »
I'm not trolling but just pointing out the obvious. Anyone who pays 400 million and up should really question what they doing with their life. Or the type of spending decisions they make in real life.

700mil roughly equal to the price of 2.3 AG mythics. Considering plenty of people own more than 2 AG mythics, I wonder why wouldn't you pop in front of everyone of them and tell them they have no life.

You talking one purchase for one jacket versus 2 ag weapons. One ag weapon alone is worth way more then a jacket. making that ag weapon through 1-2 months is not the same as throwing 650 million on one jacket in 1 minute.

Whether a gear is worth the price tag or not is very subjective. But the point is that the amount of time to make 2 AG mythics should be the same as getting the hq jacket. By that logic everyone who own 2 AG mythics are no lifers because they spent same amount of time to do it.

I love how every sell hq item thread will get at least 1 "it's not worth etttt!" troll comment.

I'm not trolling. I was here uninvited to talk about pricing. U are right a lotta people have no life. But some people might work 9-5 come home play 5 hours and play 10 hours a day weekend. To me at least those people working. Those people can work each day on ag weapons. And 1-3 months later the weapon is complete. Another 1-3 months another ag complete.

Now if someone just spends 700million on a jacket +1, either they have more gils on a mule or they have 5 ag weapons or they can make 100 million a week playing 12 hours a day. Do u see my logic?
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By Asura.Foreverj 2016-06-23 23:23:45
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If you were trying to sell something worth 700M why would you sell it for 200M? Now THAT would be crazy. Also, what's worth it to you might NOT be worth it to someone else, so you can't really say something isn't 'worth it'. I always have people tell me they won't pay a certain price for something and "no one in the right would", only to have them sell. Sometimes it's just a game of patience. Most end-game crafters don't live from one HQ synth to the other and don't need that item to sell right away.


The question is, is it worth 700million? Is it worth close to
Max Gil? If someone like me that can make 3-5 million an hour, would I save up 700 million to buy that jacket? Would someone that can make 10 million an hour pay 700 million? Would someone that can make 20 million an hour pay 700 million? That's still 35 hours at 20 million an hour to get to 700 million. The only people that would buy is the Gil exploiters or someone that can print Gil.
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By Afania 2016-06-23 23:42:29
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Asura.Foreverj said: »
Afania said: »
Asura.Foreverj said: »
Afania said: »
Asura.Foreverj said: »
I'm not trolling but just pointing out the obvious. Anyone who pays 400 million and up should really question what they doing with their life. Or the type of spending decisions they make in real life.

700mil roughly equal to the price of 2.3 AG mythics. Considering plenty of people own more than 2 AG mythics, I wonder why wouldn't you pop in front of everyone of them and tell them they have no life.

You talking one purchase for one jacket versus 2 ag weapons. One ag weapon alone is worth way more then a jacket. making that ag weapon through 1-2 months is not the same as throwing 650 million on one jacket in 1 minute.

Whether a gear is worth the price tag or not is very subjective. But the point is that the amount of time to make 2 AG mythics should be the same as getting the hq jacket. By that logic everyone who own 2 AG mythics are no lifers because they spent same amount of time to do it.

I love how every sell hq item thread will get at least 1 "it's not worth etttt!" troll comment.

I'm not trolling. I was here uninvited to talk about pricing. U are right a lotta people have no life. But some people might work 9-5 come home play 5 hours and play 10 hours a day weekend. To me at least those people working. Those people can work each day on ag weapons. And 1-3 months later the weapon is complete. Another 1-3 months another ag complete.

Now if someone just spends 700million on a jacket +1, either they have more gils on a mule or they have 5 ag weapons or they can make 100 million a week playing 12 hours a day. Do u see my logic?


The total amount of time spent on making those gil is still the same, regardless of buying currency slowly or spend 700m at once.

I know most people probably won't spend 700m on hq jacket because it's less increase than 2 AG mythics, doesn't make hq Jack more "no life" to get than 2-3 ag mythics. Whether it's better to spend 700m on multiple AG or HQ is subjective.

Pretty much every thread selling hq gears would have trolls hijack the thread, claiming whoever buys HQ are no lifers, then proceed to build their next set of AG REM. I don't know the definition of no lifer anymore.
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By Ragnarok.Slyshen 2016-06-23 23:59:44
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If you were trying to sell something worth 700M why would you sell it for 200M? Now THAT would be crazy. Also, what's worth it to you might NOT be worth it to someone else, so you can't really say something isn't 'worth it'. I always have people tell me they won't pay a certain price for something and "no one in the right would", only to have them sell. Sometimes it's just a game of patience. Most end-game crafters don't live from one HQ synth to the other and don't need that item to sell right away.


The question is, is it worth 700million? Is it worth close to
Max Gil? If someone like me that can make 3-5 million an hour, would I save up 700 million to buy that jacket? Would someone that can make 10 million an hour pay 700 million? Would someone that can make 20 million an hour pay 700 million? That's still 35 hours at 20 million an hour to get to 700 million. The only people that would buy is the Gil exploiters or someone that can print Gil.

So, because you cannot afford something, or find means of a nice gil income, means that anyone else that has, is a cheater? Also, crafters don't necessarily have a gil/hr. I might have some days when I won't make ***, and then another day I'll make 50M, next day nothing, next day another couple million, nothing for a week, another 50M. I wouldn't ever pay 700M myself, but being that I'm a crafter, your comment is completely ignorant. Sounds like you need to find a better way to make gil instead of throwing a fit because someone else has. Do I cry when people make something I want and can't afford? No, I either farm my *** off and get it, or I obviously don't want it as bad as I thought. Something is only worth as much as the purchaser is willing to pay for it. If it wasn't worth 700M to someone, then it just WON't SELL. If it is, it will, and that would mean that 700M was definitely WORTH IT to someone. Sorry about it.
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700m about 700~2000 USD for a item with marginal boost (especially if no other HQ) that isn't necessary for almost any content in the game atm. Main reason I've not upgraded. This doesn't mean people won't buy it though, because they do and probably will.
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By Asura.Ladyofhonor 2016-06-24 01:28:29
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I paid 300m for my Jinxed Jacket, and that's about where my limit would be for such an item. A few things though:

Mat prices nearly doubled in the last month or two (at least for a period) so it makes sense if end sale price also doubles.

The last sale was 650mil, so clearly there are people paying that price. Who they are I have no idea, and yes I'll admit there's a chance this is someone on a mule attempting to inflate the price. But also the last two Jinxed Kecks sold for 500m each. I use even the NQ jacket all the time before I got my HQ. If I had the HQ kecks they'd be used for my failed attempts to melee Maju and that's about it. Paying 500m for that piece is FAR more absurd than 700m for jacket.

The body is BiS for MANY jobs. THF/RNG/BLU/COR/DNC/RUN all can use this as a BiS piece, at minimum for high acc situations (I don't know if it's also BiS for MNK/NIN). You talk about 2 AG weapons for this price, but this is an item that works for 6 jobs. Shouldn't that factor into the price tag? I paid to make an AG Twashtar and an AG Armageddon, but my Adhemar Jacket+1 is used with both of those weapons.

And the last thing to factor in is we're currently seeing some solid inflation in the game. We've got people farming sparks for gil and adding massive gil to the economy and there just isn't a whole lot draining it back out. Prices are going to be going up unless SE adds in some more important stuff from curio moogles or something. So all prices are going to go up and things are going to appear "absurd" in price but 50 years ago people paying $6 for a fast food hamburger would've been considered insane but just head on over to Five Guys sometime.
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By Asura.Arnan 2016-06-24 04:33:50
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Prices are going up because of impatient crafters who pay over the odds just to get the job done, the same crafters who constantly undercut prices of NQ pieces because of there impatience... If you look its not happening on other servers and its the same handful of people that are responsible for this on asura
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By geigei 2016-06-24 04:38:45
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Ragnarok have it worst, there's a bunch of people buying mats and then sell nq low, sometime undercut themselves...ruined market for everyone having a life.
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By Asura.Orij 2016-06-24 06:37:16
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ya'll talked me into it! 650 it is
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By Asura.Foreverj 2016-06-24 06:46:16
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If you were trying to sell something worth 700M why would you sell it for 200M? Now THAT would be crazy. Also, what's worth it to you might NOT be worth it to someone else, so you can't really say something isn't 'worth it'. I always have people tell me they won't pay a certain price for something and "no one in the right would", only to have them sell. Sometimes it's just a game of patience. Most end-game crafters don't live from one HQ synth to the other and don't need that item to sell right away.


The question is, is it worth 700million? Is it worth close to
Max Gil? If someone like me that can make 3-5 million an hour, would I save up 700 million to buy that jacket? Would someone that can make 10 million an hour pay 700 million? Would someone that can make 20 million an hour pay 700 million? That's still 35 hours at 20 million an hour to get to 700 million. The only people that would buy is the Gil exploiters or someone that can print Gil.

So, because you cannot afford something, or find means of a nice gil income, means that anyone else that has, is a cheater? Also, crafters don't necessarily have a gil/hr. I might have some days when I won't make ***, and then another day I'll make 50M, next day nothing, next day another couple million, nothing for a week, another 50M. I wouldn't ever pay 700M myself, but being that I'm a crafter, your comment is completely ignorant. Sounds like you need to find a better way to make gil instead of throwing a fit because someone else has. Do I cry when people make something I want and can't afford? No, I either farm my *** off and get it, or I obviously don't want it as bad as I thought. Something is only worth as much as the purchaser is willing to pay for it. If it wasn't worth 700M to someone, then it just WON't SELL. If it is, it will, and that would mean that 700M was definitely WORTH IT to someone. Sorry about it.

Everyone here is having a reasonable discussion but you. We discussing stuff but u calling me ignorant. And when did i ever said he was a cheater? I said Gil exploiter would buy those severely overpriced item.

I can't afford that? Of coz I can't. You talking like u got 700 million to blow? I'm good with 3-5 million Gil an hour. It's a good source of entertainment for 1-2 hours a night.

Hey this item might sell but the market for people with 700 million might be few and amount those few who would just spend their life savings on this item? At the end of the day good luck selling this item.
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By Asura.Foreverj 2016-06-24 06:48:20
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ya'll talked me into it! 650 it is

No one is butt hurt. Do I want 3 kids or all the time In the world after work to farm Gil for this one item?
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By Asura.Orij 2016-06-24 06:55:05
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or you could level Bonecraft and actually see how crafting goes for said items.
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By Asura.Foreverj 2016-06-24 06:58:49
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I'm not questioning how hard it is to make Gil on bone craft. I'm just discussing the absurd high price of this one item and who can afford that. Like people said too many crafters in asura leading to high priced materials.
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By Asura.Orij 2016-06-24 07:02:39
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its not the fact of the number of crafters, people farm / try to make them all day and never happens, let alone the materials are scarce enough to contribute to the factor of the price. the fact its roughly 10-11m to make also has a role in the price. like i said before spent over 800m just trying to make another jinxed of any from Alch Cloth Bone til just this recent jacket.
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By Asura.Foreverj 2016-06-24 07:18:12
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I do understand the price of the materials used to make the jacket involved. like lady said she brought hers for 300 million and since then price of materials to make it has gone up.

What if crafters don't buy when the materials cost is too high? Anyway that's none of my business. Good luck with your sale.
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