Cerberus.Anjisnu said: »
"Dispenses Gooey Love" that's all i needed to see from this update lol
At least it's not a crowning flatus.
Worst. TP move name. ever.
They should have just said "shart" and got on with their day.
September Version Update
September Version Update
At least it's not a crowning flatus.
Worst. TP move name. ever.
They should have just said "shart" and got on with their day.
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No, I mean the whole Occasionally attacks twice or thrice. Unless they plan to upgrade Kogarasumaru, that's a pretty big slap in the face to mythic SAMs.
And if they upgrade Kogarasumaru, they need to upgrade all the other mythics.
And if they upgrade Kogarasumaru, they need to upgrade all the other mythics.
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Asura.Ivlilla said: »
they need to upgrade all the other mythics.
Add to my DP the stats of Compensator and this new Molybdenus or whatever gun.
Asura.Ivlilla said: »
No, I mean the whole Occasionally attacks twice or thrice. Unless they plan to upgrade Kogarasumaru, that's a pretty big slap in the face to mythic SAMs.
And if they upgrade Kogarasumaru, they need to upgrade all the other mythics.
And if they upgrade Kogarasumaru, they need to upgrade all the other mythics.
Look at the damage on the thing. It's not intended to compete with a mythic.
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It's an iLevel Soboro. Base damage isn't exactly great, and yeah, it's for vagary skillchains.
Pretty much all the mythics need a boost anyway, this isn't really putting that over the edge.
Pretty much all the mythics need a boost anyway, this isn't really putting that over the edge.
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Asura.Ivlilla said: »
No, I mean the whole Occasionally attacks twice or thrice. Unless they plan to upgrade Kogarasumaru, that's a pretty big slap in the face to mythic SAMs.
And if they upgrade Kogarasumaru, they need to upgrade all the other mythics.
And if they upgrade Kogarasumaru, they need to upgrade all the other mythics.
Look at the damage on the thing. It's not intended to compete with a mythic.
Depending on the frequency of the OAx, it could very well be second to none except the mythic. If it's 40% OA2 and 20% OA3 like mythics, which, unless I'm greatly mistaken, are the only other weapons with that specific stat, you're looking at getting, on average, without DA/QA/TA, 1.8 attacks per attack round, on a 169 damage weapon, which will come out to more damage than anything else but the mythic, I think. Not to mention the insanely high TP gain, and that you could swap out multiattack gear for attack/accuracy/storeTP.
But I don't play SAM, so I could well be missing something.
[edit]Only other weapons at item level, rather.
The FFXI wiki is pretty good for older content and does a great job with linking sources on recipes and materials. I usually consult it when I need to find out if certain items are buyable from NPCs, as well as Guild Points.
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Lakshmi.Rooks said: »
re: Wikis
Let's all just be grateful we have multiple sources of information. I use FFXIClopedia(Wikia) and BG Wiki extensively, there are strengths to both. Arguing about them is silly.
The work done on both wikis is awesome and benefits us all, there's no need to look down on either.
Let's all just be grateful we have multiple sources of information. I use FFXIClopedia(Wikia) and BG Wiki extensively, there are strengths to both. Arguing about them is silly.
The work done on both wikis is awesome and benefits us all, there's no need to look down on either.
To be honest I look down on clopedia and rightfully so IMO due to its history of being sold (good drama story there), split into GE over nonsense which drastically cut the quality of it, the horrid ad infested wikia experience, and the fact that we are at a point in this game where we don't need
Make a new character and try to make it through all the missions, quests, and old NMs using just BGWiki... Good luck!
Use adblock for sites with horrible ads. FFXIAH doesn't have horrible ads so unblock for here :)
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You can only mash macros and ws so fast, but who the *** knows anymore.
What I do know is that they don't care about slapping REM owners in the face, and haven't since ilvl gear showed up.
What I do know is that they don't care about slapping REM owners in the face, and haven't since ilvl gear showed up.
We wouldn't have 2 wikis dividing up productivity if the whiners over at bg hadn't deemed it necessary to make a second wiki
they did better on a few things, but blaming xiclopedia for a megolamaniac move by a few neckbeards is laughable
(I'd still use soboro for vagary, the OA2-3 is secondary to not killing things and it's not that hard to buff acc)
they did better on a few things, but blaming xiclopedia for a megolamaniac move by a few neckbeards is laughable
(I'd still use soboro for vagary, the OA2-3 is secondary to not killing things and it's not that hard to buff acc)
Asura.Ivlilla said: »
No, I mean the whole Occasionally attacks twice or thrice. Unless they plan to upgrade Kogarasumaru, that's a pretty big slap in the face to mythic SAMs.
And if they upgrade Kogarasumaru, they need to upgrade all the other mythics.
And if they upgrade Kogarasumaru, they need to upgrade all the other mythics.
I know these don't have twice or thrice, but neither does macbain and look what that did to ragnarok.
Poor liberator holders.
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Lakshmi.Rooks said: »
re: Wikis
Let's all just be grateful we have multiple sources of information. I use FFXIClopedia(Wikia) and BG Wiki extensively, there are strengths to both. Arguing about them is silly.
The work done on both wikis is awesome and benefits us all, there's no need to look down on either.
Let's all just be grateful we have multiple sources of information. I use FFXIClopedia(Wikia) and BG Wiki extensively, there are strengths to both. Arguing about them is silly.
The work done on both wikis is awesome and benefits us all, there's no need to look down on either.
To be honest I look down on clopedia and rightfully so IMO due to its history of being sold (good drama story there), split into GE over nonsense which drastically cut the quality of it, the horrid ad infested wikia experience, and the fact that we are at a point in this game where we don't need
Want a treat? Try to read FFXI Wikia on an iPad or iPhone without adblocking. Fun fun stuff.
But yeah, BGWiki could use a little bit of work, especially on the mission pages. I still use both sites but I wish I could just move to BGWiki exclusively.
Asura.Omnijuggernaut said: »
Asura.Ivlilla said: »
No, I mean the whole Occasionally attacks twice or thrice. Unless they plan to upgrade Kogarasumaru, that's a pretty big slap in the face to mythic SAMs.
And if they upgrade Kogarasumaru, they need to upgrade all the other mythics.
And if they upgrade Kogarasumaru, they need to upgrade all the other mythics.
I know these don't have twice or thrice, but neither does macbain and look what that did to ragnarok.
Poor liberator holders.
Ragnarok and Liberator are in two very different situations. Liberator has OAT/Thrice and can trigger on WS. Those scythes don't obsolete Liberator even though they have quite a bit more base damage.
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Melee in general are just sort of ***upon right now.
Some more than others.
And all signs point to that being the way they want to round out the game, soooooooooooooooo.
And I would absolutely love to be wrong. So please tell me how wrong I am and convince SE to prove me wrong.
Because I'd *** loathe for this game's end legacy to be a bunch of lame pet jobs tearing things up forever.
Some more than others.
And all signs point to that being the way they want to round out the game, soooooooooooooooo.
And I would absolutely love to be wrong. So please tell me how wrong I am and convince SE to prove me wrong.
Because I'd *** loathe for this game's end legacy to be a bunch of lame pet jobs tearing things up forever.
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Yeah, I wouldn't use wiki without adblock, and I would still use regular wiki over BG for most things pre-Adoulin.
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Ramyrez said: »
Because I'd *** loathe for this game's end legacy to be blue mages tearing things up forever.
Mighty Guard is ridiculous. Blue mage has always had uses, even at its lower points, but it's legitimately overpowered now.
And again, re: Wikis - let's stay on topic.
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Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
and the fact that we are at a point in this game where we don't need 3 2 wikis dividing up productivity.
Just pointing out, FFXIClopedia was there first and around for a long time before BG Wiki was started. When the people who started BG Wiki started BG Wiki they could've just edited 'Clopedia so as not to 'divide productivity'. It's a bit harsh to use that against 'Clopedia.
They're both useful and you should be glad both exist.
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
I do too, but having a blank page that says "skip this ad" pop up anytime you go to leave the wiki for here is ridiculous. I compare the experiences even without adblock as both sites could use the revenue. It is still a perfectly valid complaint with adblock on or not.
NoScript will block that, and if you're considerate of the site's revenue, enable pingback so they still get your hit.
Ramyrez said: »
Melee in general are just sort of ***upon right now.
Some more than others.
And all signs point to that being the way they want to round out the game, soooooooooooooooo.
And I would absolutely love to be wrong. So please tell me how wrong I am and convince SE to prove me wrong.
Because I'd *** loathe for this game's end legacy to be a bunch of lame pet jobs tearing things up forever.
Some more than others.
And all signs point to that being the way they want to round out the game, soooooooooooooooo.
And I would absolutely love to be wrong. So please tell me how wrong I am and convince SE to prove me wrong.
Because I'd *** loathe for this game's end legacy to be a bunch of lame pet jobs tearing things up forever.
Yeah, if November comes and melee aren't fixed, particularly heavy DD, I'll consider FFXI to have ended on a sour note. The current state of things sucks, I mean casters and pet jobs, literally who cares, or more critically, who wanted them to be in the forefront of clearing content? Bleh.
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Lakshmi.Rooks said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Because I'd *** loathe for this game's end legacy to be blue mages tearing things up forever.
Mighty Guard is ridiculous. Blue mage has always had uses, even at its lower points, but it's legitimately overpowered now.
And again, re: Wikis - let's stay on topic.
Thank you ;D
Also if you want to complain about wiki's please just make a different thread. this isn't the place for it to be done. This is September Version update thread. Not Wiki hating thread.
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Melee are still straight up better than pet jobs on just about anything, they just require much more support than most players can bring around at this point in the game.
Nothing wrong with mages being usable for the first time in 3 years.
Seems pretty balanced to me, pet jobs could be nerfed a little bit more due to the lack of coordination required when using them, but I'm guessing the range nerf will accomplish that anyway.
Nothing wrong with mages being usable for the first time in 3 years.
Seems pretty balanced to me, pet jobs could be nerfed a little bit more due to the lack of coordination required when using them, but I'm guessing the range nerf will accomplish that anyway.
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The almost 20% reduction in bayld and xp rewards from doing coalition runs seems a bizarre move.
I was getting 4750 of xp/bayld per 1 point spent. And it's now 4000.
Why reduce it by that amount? If they feel everyone and his dog was abusing it to level up BST to 99 on mules, then why not hit it harder? Like a 50% or more reduction?
Just seems weird.
I was getting 4750 of xp/bayld per 1 point spent. And it's now 4000.
Why reduce it by that amount? If they feel everyone and his dog was abusing it to level up BST to 99 on mules, then why not hit it harder? Like a 50% or more reduction?
Just seems weird.
Asura.Floppyseconds said: »
Knowing the history of why things exist or what happened would be important.
Honestly, no, it's not important. I could not care two hoots about any drama from or between the owners. Whichever site has the information I need I will use, and that means I use both of them extensively. Anyway, enough of that.
Delve monsters are ludicrous now. One Grand Fall took off 4% of Tojil's HP.
The history is irrelevant, any ethics issue related to profiting on the work of others doesn't change the fact that creating competing wikis made a worse situation for all users and contributors.
You don't have to commend the original xiclopedia crew to recognize that it was a dumbass move to create other wikis. They did it first, they still have the greatest amount of information, and we'd have a complete information source available if people weren't so jealous over pocket change that they had to create competitors to 'show them who's boss'.
You don't have to commend the original xiclopedia crew to recognize that it was a dumbass move to create other wikis. They did it first, they still have the greatest amount of information, and we'd have a complete information source available if people weren't so jealous over pocket change that they had to create competitors to 'show them who's boss'.
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