Before You Start Selling Vagary Carries

We unlocked hands.

How many did you take when you got your clear?

Hard to say how many were real people, i believe it was like 14 characters, but theirs a chance someone was quad boxing and 2 people were dual boxing.

LOL!!! So people are already complaining its too hard and you guys cleared it with multi-boxing. Color me amazed that people are bitching they cant stand in Jeuno on day 2 in full Empy i119 gears.

I like how they did this. You can sell the mats to upgrade but you can't upgrade unless you're flagged.

Have only done one run of it but it seems like once you have the right setup and know what to expect its not that bad.

From our experiences last night, it seems Vagary isn't front-line job friendly. BLM's, RNG's and SMN's seem the way to go. We had 2 PLD's though (1 of which was Burtgang) holding the MB and Elementals, so that part seemed vital.

Only works if you actually set the 'right' RoE too

Your missing the point.

fixed that for you! <3

The concept of my argument eludes you.

13 characters total, quad box and two dual box. To be fair I only tagged the MB with drev as I was too hectic to do more than that so more like 12.

I should have dual boxed, i def need my own WHM. :(

farming etched memories seems pretty easy 6 man. Did slimes with pld, sam, thf, geo, brd, whm and got 53 memories 1st run, 57 memories 2nd run and killed small pink slime nm. It pretty much felt like a CP party lol.

You need your own army of support. Consider quad boxing!

is this a joke? how havnt people realized that sometimes, even giving those terrible players that think its immoral to sell wins a SMALL role in an event can lead to failure because of how consistently theyll cause issues? when i took people in my low man delves to leech wins, even recently, i told them to do nothing or if i felt they could contribute without being in the way of how i was executing my strats, an extremely limited role.

if you are consistently in parties that wipe, you need to reevaluate how you play the game. its not others its you. why is it OK to hinder a party just so you can be involved?

go make gil for a few days doing the content youre good at (dyna, salv, ect) then pay someone to do it for you. time spent on your time card leads to the same result, as long as youre working towards it at all.

Most assuredly.

Geez, what a crybaby.

You don't sound good enough anyway, so you go ahead and step down.

What's wrong with Ein? It was a good event.

Only thing wrong with Einjerhar is the *** 10 minute timer.

Get rid of that and you will see a lot more people doing that event....

She is talking about Ejar at 75-cap, and how it was a great and enjoyable event. Ejar II when it was relevant too probably, relevant for more than simply mythic building, that is.

Vagary seems very similar to Ejar, so there is a good chance that it too, is an enjoyable event.

Wait, are we comparing it to that newer fluffy bag of kittens einherjar that everyone knows about now or that beast that was the original einherjar? Man that was some hard stuff. I mean it was nerfed well before the level cap was raised, when it was new it was basically impossible haha.

I thought Ein was really boring and lacked rewards. The Pre-Odin chamber drop rate on ABJs was terrible so you had the majority of the rewards filtered to 1/4th the runs. The Shadow gear was pretty terrible before the augmenting ability and the Odin drops were a little lackluster for the effort. It was an alternative way to get Ebody/Abody which was cool but overall didn't feel very compelling of an event.

I was under the impression this, but yeah it sure was fun.

Tackling the baddies, friendly parsing competitions between linkshell friends(even some drama ones!) etc, good times.

My favorite was the Dvergr T3, ***was chaos.

Personally liked the Behemoth and the ideas of whats making it use meteor so much, but the malboro NM taking SE before DRK zerg nerf was pretty fun too.

Yes, tell people that buying runs is better than improving their skills and doing research on runs to become a better player. Devolve the player base even further by spreading the example that if people need help they have to pay for it.

Just for sh**s and giggles I randomly put mercenary in google search and the definition further proves my point of mercs in FFXI are:

"Mercenary(Noun): a person primarily concerned with material reward at the expense of ethics.

Which translates too:
At this point of the game's life, merc'ing is moronic, especially with this being the last year of updates and new content can be cleared if you work hard to clear it instead of taking the easy way out (no wonder people keep saying FFXI is "easy mode" nowadays.)

Seriously, what are you gonna do with that Gil after November? Some of you who sell runs are so obsessed with making money off people who are lazy and/or taking advantage of players who know no better (yes I know and seen some of you do that, and it's disgraceful) that you forget helping out others is it's own reward.

Is virtual currency that important that you can't take time to help out a fellow player who really needs help?

I remember back in my early days playing the game, I was new to FFXI and had no idea wtf I was doing, I had some nice players help me out and they even gave me some Gil to help me out out of the kindness of their hearts. I've never forgotten about them and the kindness they showed, so I tried to show the same kindness to other players who needed help over the years and volunteered to help them, not for money but to help them out of the kindness of my heart. IMO, this game has been extremely degraded since my early days when helping out others was a show of good will and not draining people's pockets.


This is the point I'm trying to make: Be an good example to other players and take the time to help out those in need instead of forcing them to pay for help. Show them that kindness and helping out others is it's own reward. It's a good life lesson as well, especially if kids play this game. Think about that.

Avalon! Quiet you!

Are people so stupid and lazy that they can't get a few people together to go do the content themselves?

An alternate way to get Ebody/Abody was pretty significant to be honest. Most EG shells didn't camp much, if at all, so it was mostly the only source.

The event is short, free of enduring boring camping, free of stressful competition, and was fun, but I guess that last bit is subjective.

I can't remember the incor rewards other than the rings, which were good. The Valhalla gears were decent, and so were the weapons I think? I don't think it lacked rewards, but I would agree they weren't amazing. Well, other than Abody/Ebody, but yeah.

What about people that just don't want to deal with the content but want the items? I would have no issue clearing DMII and have in the past but think the event is pretty ***and would much rather pay someone to get me the items from it, especially since items like Trip Earring are basically mandatory for some jobs.

I would be willing to "merc" content for people with idris geos or 99 daurb/ghorn brds assuming they know how to do songs, and i wouldn't even charge them any gil.

If mercs didn't want the upgrade items along with the gil I wouldn't mind paying for runs. But if I am paying for the run then I want all drops.