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By soralin 2018-08-07 00:55:35
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Ok I see there point now. They didnt have a melee DD so they don't need haste.

They're using the Cors themselves as the DDs, so they want Rapid shots, not haste.

I don't see it performing as well though as a jacked up REMA sam with Idris Geo + 4 songs + 2 rolls + Haste II

We were averaging about 1.5~2.5 minute clears on ambuscade VD with said setup (SAM/PLD/GEO/COR/BRD/RDM)

Which, as I mentioned, was hugely dwarfed by the 30 minute wait to actually get into Ambu, so shaving or adding an extra 30 seconds to your clear speed at that point is a matter of 'who really cares anyways?'
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By Siren.Kyte 2018-08-07 01:13:50
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I don't know why you would necessarily assume that a COR wouldn't want to melee without any context at all.
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By Afania 2018-08-07 01:48:54
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Cor is a melee DD in melee pt.
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By Asura.Tydis 2018-08-10 17:19:41
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Quick question? Do you guys give a ***about what your HP does when you're swapping sets? Prime example for me being, in my TP/DT hybrid set if I cast flash I drop 600 HP.
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2018-08-10 22:13:26
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Asura.Tydis said: »
Quick question? Do you guys give a ***about what your HP does when you're swapping sets? Prime example for me being, in my TP/DT hybrid set if I cast flash I drop 600 HP.
It'll certainly piss off your healers if you're doing the HP shuffle dance too much.
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By Sylph.Citrelautame 2018-08-10 22:49:25
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Dropping will make healers despise you, it also majorly can effect your hate. Your enmity set shouldn't differ that much from your tp set either, the more enmity you have while tp'in the more each swing adds and the less you lose each hit. Not full timing high enmity and high hp (bouncing alil is fine) I find it hard to believe you hold hate unless you got some very weak dps w/ you.

As a person who's two mains are pld and whm, I'll tell ya if i see a pld's hp bouncing around, they won't get involved in any of my pug fights from there on out either.
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By Asura.Tydis 2018-08-11 12:11:27
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Well, it was merely a question as I was looking to improve my sets but you sound pretty unpleasant anyway.
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By Davorin 2018-08-11 13:04:49
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Asura.Tydis said: »
Quick question? Do you guys give a ***about what your HP does when you're swapping sets? Prime example for me being, in my TP/DT hybrid set if I cast flash I drop 600 HP.

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/46016/first-and-final-line-of-defense-v20/37/#3290917

There's a few posts here that talk about maintaining HP through casting/enmity sets.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2018-08-11 13:14:06
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That feeling when you click on the link, and it's one of your own posts. lol
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By Asura.Tydis 2018-08-11 13:16:11
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Davorin said: »
Asura.Tydis said: »
Quick question? Do you guys give a ***about what your HP does when you're swapping sets? Prime example for me being, in my TP/DT hybrid set if I cast flash I drop 600 HP.

https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/46016/first-and-final-line-of-defense-v20/37/#3290917

There's a few posts here that talk about maintaining HP through casting/enmity sets.
That's very useful, thank you. My friends have started coming back to the game so we started doing stuff again and HP dropping when casting was the first thing I noticed. So ideally I'm looking to adjust my sets so I drop less HP between my FC and casting sets.
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By Leviathan.Andret 2018-08-11 13:47:42
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Sylph.Citrelautame said: »
Dropping will make healers despise you, it also majorly can effect your hate. Your enmity set shouldn't differ that much from your tp set either, the more enmity you have while tp'in the more each swing adds and the less you lose each hit. Not full timing high enmity and high hp (bouncing alil is fine) I find it hard to believe you hold hate unless you got some very weak dps w/ you.

As a person who's two mains are pld and whm, I'll tell ya if i see a pld's hp bouncing around, they won't get involved in any of my pug fights from there on out either.

This is helpful actually. I bounce between 2500-ish to 3300-ish mainly due to the swap of FC gear or DD gear.

I might probably remove most the FC from Flash and other stuff and use SIRD (once I got it) instead. Probably the only thing I would keep using FC would be Reprisal.

It's a useful cure cheat but swapping from full DT/HP to DD (for WS) would drastically lower my HP.
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2018-08-11 21:46:52
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So in regards to HP dropping and what not; Would I be better off using Path C (For Enmity/HP) on Souveran Cuirass? More or less plan it to be my full on idle/enmity body.
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By soralin 2018-08-11 21:56:35
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Enmitty is better to start, but eventually youll want to idle in refresh and swap in enmity in your enmity set
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By Phoenix.Uzugami 2018-08-11 22:35:37
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Okay, cause right now I have Emet Harness +1 for my enmity set; but since the HQ body has +11 naturally, using the extra +9 for +20 was what I was looking at more. But 3 refresh is pretty good for when it calls for it..
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By Sylph.Citrelautame 2018-08-11 22:36:43
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(MP has only ever been an issue on my pld when people start dieing from AoE's or not having proper suppot)

I think the souveran body is up for debate, if you have mp issues go path D, I personally use path c on all 5 pieces, however I have been considering changing that for the pure sake of the HP drop, If my armor pieces had less hp on them, then when i switch to FC/SIRD/WS sets I wouldn't have to worry as much about the HP bounce. But with mostly fully timing 5 pieces w/ path C on them I never lose hate until capped enmity situations, I switch out all the other gear for my sets and usually don't switch out the souveran set.

I have partied with a pld who took the set all path A and it was interesting. Granted he had only 2500 hp, the lack of HP and enmity was mostly made up for in dps and the ability to gear swap more pieces in without dropping hp. This pld did lose hate faster than my pld but in many short fights where enmity never got close to max he did very well.
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By Ragnarok.Martel 2018-08-12 06:41:08
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Keep in mind that you can have multiples of the same piece. I have C and D path souveran body/hands. So I can Idle in the refresh+, but cast in the +20 enmity.
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By Asura.Tydis 2018-08-12 09:26:00
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Ragnarok.Martel said: »
Keep in mind that you can have multiples of the same piece. I have C and D path souveran body/hands. So I can Idle in the refresh+, but cast in the +20 enmity.
Same but only since I got the HQ body the other day, turned my NQ into path D as an idle piece.
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