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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-03-13 13:15:08
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Go home thread, you're drunk.
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By fonewear 2015-03-13 13:17:45
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Lye said: »
It is my opinion that being able to look at the caricatures of ones' beliefs and views is an important step in developing a well rounded perspective.

The difference between satire and sarcasm lies in its intent:

Sarcasm is butchery where satire is surgery.

"If" it's any consolation, you can opt out of retrospective thinking and stick with this verse from "If" by Rudyard Kipling. Here's the verse:

If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

In the words of another STRONG WISE man....


Legends of the Hidden Temple reference the nostalgia level is impossibly high !
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By Bloodrose 2015-03-13 13:20:23
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Zackan said: »
Bloodrose said: »
Because I didn't get to respond to Zackan last night, i'll do so now:

I appreciate your stance, and your opinion, as it's one of the only well articulated ones against the FRS, and that you are the first to admit they aren't well versed in what it does, or it's responsibilities, and am also pleased you see this as a learning opportunity.

Also, I did point out that a better option to the complete dissolution of it would be to enact reforms at a relative pace, which would be a progressive, yet conservative stance.

And that there are indeed many progressive conservative stances being taken already by both parties, as a middle ground, unless you see those progressive stances by the conservative members doing so as some kind of disease, despite making things better, but still highly recognizable, for as many people as possible, and not just their constituents. A prime example of this would be of Mitt Romney and his "Romney Care" during his tenure as governor.

2 questions: What can you tell me about interest rates, and how they are not recycled back in? Basically what I am referring to is how 1 dollar can be owed to multiple entities at the same time(taking a loan out against a loan), How banks use your interest as a form of actual currency, and the biggest issue of the fact that if everyone belonging to a bank were to withdraw there money at the same time, there would be serious issues.

2) I know about this thing that JFK did(conspiracy i suppose) Where he actually signed some kind of executive agreement which actually would have directly placed direct control of the currency back in the governments hands. It was at this point the suspicious things happened.(he was assasinated and his vice president(who became president) immediately dissolved the executive action.)
I'm not an economics major, so I can't really answer the first in great detail, but KingNobody probably could, other than that 1 dollar is not owed to multiple people at once, but parts of that dollar would be, nor that banks use your money, or loans, as a form of currency, but as a form of investment for greater returns.

It's also a financially bad idea to take a loan out for a loan, because then you get hit by multiple interest rates which turns out to be legal loansharking.

What I understand about banking is that you invest your money in the bank by use of a savings account, checking account, w/e, and they borrow the money invested, but by doing so, are in agreement to return that money, plus a portion of what they make from borrowing your money, is returned as interest (usually a small percentage, so they can pay their employees and other staff hired)

Second question, the same thing would happen without the FRS, but at a much grander scale, which is one of the major causes of the previous and frequent causes of the financial crises in the years following Andrew Jackson and company's poor presidential policies.

Anyways, a lot of the people who are against the FRS, as I pointed out are not at all, or very poorly versed on it, and typically try to use it as a means of skipping out on their civic and patriotic duty to pay taxes, which then goes towards necessary infrastructure, public officials such as public employees, federal employees, etc. and by removing it, it allows people to go back to purchasing otherwise public land, and setting up private toll roads, which would increase the cost of goods and services, basically allowing organized crime to run the whole shebang.

Sidenote: I wanted to mention equalization payments between the states from federal funding, but I don't think I'm well versed enough to touch on that part, or if it's even correct.
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By Bahamut.Omael 2015-03-13 14:17:50
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Bloodrose said: »
Anyways, a lot of the people who are against the FRS, as I pointed out are not at all, or very poorly versed on it, and typically try to use it as a means of skipping out on their civic and patriotic duty to pay taxes, which then goes towards necessary infrastructure, public officials such as public employees, federal employees, etc. and by removing it, it allows people to go back to purchasing otherwise public land, and setting up private toll roads, which would increase the cost of goods and services, basically allowing organized crime to run the whole shebang.

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-13 14:32:57
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Zackan said: »
What can you tell me about interest rates, and how they are not recycled back in?
Interest rates are the cost of borrowing money. That is the basic answer one can give.

But what do you mean by "recycled back in"?

Zackan said: »
Basically what I am referring to is how 1 dollar can be owed to multiple entities at the same time(taking a loan out against a loan)
They cannot. At least, not in a practical sense.

When you borrow 1 dollar from Bloodrose, and then turn around and lend that same 1 dollar to me, you are basically guaranteeing a loan from me to Bloodrose, which if I were to default on paying it back, you would still be on the hook to pay Bloodrose back, since I had no influence on your decision to borrow from Bloodrose. It also works that if you default on paying the dollar back to Bloodrose, Bloodrose cannot come to me for payment because the loan made by both of you have no effect on the loan made between you and I.

Zackan said: »
How banks use your interest as a form of actual currency,
They don't. They never had. And I'm sure that people will think that mortgage-backed equities are just that. But it isn't. Not one bit.

Mortgage-backed equities (or the common phrase, securities) are just a grouping of notes that banks combined to sell to outside investors for a discount (reduction in value) to gain cash to make more loans to people. In other words, banks take a $100k mortgage, group them together with other similar mortgages, and sell it to a third party who will now own the note (and get the mortgage payments). These securities were generally sold at a reduced value so the banks can get cash on hand quicker, and sold the mortgages that already paid back a good portion of their mortgages back, so the bank will profit quicker.

It's a little more complicated than that, but that's the general idea.

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the biggest issue of the fact that if everyone belonging to a bank were to withdraw there money at the same time, there would be serious issues.
A) Nobody belongs to a bank.

B) If there were to be a bank run, the bank has the ability to borrow from the Federal Reserve to pay out the deposits on hand, up to the insured amount of $250k. What the bank does after that could be debated, but that's one of the main functions of the Federal Reserve.

Zackan said: »
I know about this thing that JFK did(conspiracy i suppose) Where he actually signed some kind of executive agreement which actually would have directly placed direct control of the currency back in the governments hands. It was at this point the suspicious things happened.(he was assasinated and his vice president(who became president) immediately dissolved the executive action.)


Anyway, wtf you talking about Willis?
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By Cecilia Charl 2015-03-13 14:36:01
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Not at all, but it is racist to accuse someone with a distinguished military and political career of voting based on race.

You really can just look at the language people use to describe Obama and other blacks.

Newt called Obama a "successful food stamp president". There was a GOP newsletter referring to Michelle Obama as "Mrs. Yo Momma". A representative called Obama a "tar baby" in a radio interview... Dude, if you don't see plenty of blatant racism among congressmen, you're not looking.

What, only blacks get food stamps? You're such a racist for suggesting that.

But seriously, I acknowledge that there is real racism there. A lot of it is just taking comments out of context to make it racism when it really isn't, though.

I'm a racist.
I've seen you run, you're not that fast! HEYO!

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By Zackan 2015-03-13 15:55:09
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So is this video pure conspiracy with no truth to it?

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By Zackan 2015-03-13 15:56:49
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Zackan said: »

Zackan said: »
I know about this thing that JFK did(conspiracy i suppose) Where he actually signed some kind of executive agreement which actually would have directly placed direct control of the currency back in the governments hands. It was at this point the suspicious things happened.(he was assasinated and his vice president(who became president) immediately dissolved the executive action.)


Anyway, wtf you talking about Willis?


http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/thefederalreserve.htm


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110

Interesting merely posting those, now I am confused myself...
I apparently was taught wrong that LBJ repealed it, apparently it still exists to this day, it is just noone does anything with it.
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By maldini 2015-03-14 12:52:44
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Ah to be so naive, so sheltered and oblivious to history...yet so certain about everything...

To think how confident and secure I would be in my ignorance if I just hadn't passed the 9th grade... damn you education, damn you to hell.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-14 13:08:23
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maldini said: »
Ah to be so naive, so sheltered and oblivious to history...yet so certain about everything...
You are inferring that you aren't?

I think it's pretty obvious that you are obvious to any/everything that doesn't fit into your skewed little world.
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By Bloodrose 2015-03-14 13:12:14
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
maldini said: »
Ah to be so naive, so sheltered and oblivious to history...yet so certain about everything...
You are inferring that you aren't?

I think it's pretty obvious that you are obvious to any/everything that doesn't fit into your skewed little world.
The word is "oblivious", not "obvious"
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By Zackan 2015-03-14 13:37:01
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maldini said: »
Ah to be so naive, so sheltered and oblivious to history...yet so certain about everything...

To think how confident and secure I would be in my ignorance if I just hadn't passed the 9th grade... damn you education, damn you to hell.

pushing your agenda again?
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By maldini 2015-03-14 13:38:23
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He was obviously oblivious of the meaning.






waaa waaa waaaaaaaaa....
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By maldini 2015-03-14 13:38:53
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Zackan said: »
maldini said: »
Ah to be so naive, so sheltered and oblivious to history...yet so certain about everything...

To think how confident and secure I would be in my ignorance if I just hadn't passed the 9th grade... damn you education, damn you to hell.

pushing your agenda again?

What agenda would that be?
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By Zackan 2015-03-14 13:40:04
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maldini said: »
Zackan said: »
maldini said: »
Ah to be so naive, so sheltered and oblivious to history...yet so certain about everything...

To think how confident and secure I would be in my ignorance if I just hadn't passed the 9th grade... damn you education, damn you to hell.

pushing your agenda again?

What agenda would that be?

to say things that have no relevance^^
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By maldini 2015-03-14 13:40:41
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Zackan said: »
maldini said: »
Zackan said: »
maldini said: »
Ah to be so naive, so sheltered and oblivious to history...yet so certain about everything...

To think how confident and secure I would be in my ignorance if I just hadn't passed the 9th grade... damn you education, damn you to hell.

pushing your agenda again?

What agenda would that be?

to say things that have no relevance^^

weak
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By Zackan 2015-03-14 13:42:35
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maldini said: »
Zackan said: »
maldini said: »
Zackan said: »
maldini said: »
Ah to be so naive, so sheltered and oblivious to history...yet so certain about everything...

To think how confident and secure I would be in my ignorance if I just hadn't passed the 9th grade... damn you education, damn you to hell.

pushing your agenda again?

What agenda would that be?

to say things that have no relevance^^

weak


that is not nice to say about yourself. I am sure your not that weak.
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-14 14:24:13
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Bloodrose said: »
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Ah to be so naive, so sheltered and oblivious to history...yet so certain about everything...
You are inferring that you aren't?

I think it's pretty obvious that you are obvious to any/everything that doesn't fit into your skewed little world.
The word is "oblivious", not "obvious"
Sorry. Thanks for correcting my stupid autocorrect.

Although maldini is too stupid to see that, obviously.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-03-14 14:33:17
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Here's how executive agreements work
Can you point to us in the USC where it defines "executive agreements" and can you also point to us where it applies to the Logan Act.

We know you cannot, but you are going to try to do so anyway.

Fenrir.Candlejack said: »
In case you're too lazy or too busy to actually look it up, KN, here ya go:
Right back at you

When you are referencing a law, it would be better to, you know, reference it instead of going to a third party commentator source....

Also, pic had profanity in it, and needs to be removed.
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