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Anyone still using Windows XP 64bit?
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By Carbuncle.Scarmiglione 2015-01-11 15:03:53
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I want too see if I could get some quick help. I tried to do a system repair with my XP cd, however I get a BSOD at the Windows screen, and I believe it has to do with the fact that my cd only has service pack 1 on it. I have a dual boot, so I tried to slipstream SP2 onto the cd, but it wouldn't work since that version of Windows is only 32bit.

So I was wondering if I could upload the files from my XP cd somewhere, and have someone slipstream SP2 into those files, and see if I could retry the system repair.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2015-01-11 16:14:42
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If I still had an xp machine lying around I'd try to help but it's literally been years since I was on xp.

64 bit has huge disadvantages due to not having SP3. Granted 32 bit can't handle much ram so both have problems that can't really be fixed. I just moved on after trying to screw with it for a few years.

Sticking with xp for any particular reason?
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By Odin.Rikiyame 2015-01-11 16:24:20
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Are you booting from the CD? I just repaired Win7 with an XP disc.
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By Jetackuu 2015-01-11 16:27:14
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Windows XP 64bit edition SP2:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=17791


Have you tried a chkdsk /r ?

Honestly, you're probably better off loading 7x64, and using vmware for XP stuff, it has USB support and hardware acceleration. (I'd probably use 32bit in the VM).

I never used XPx64, mostly due to not wanting to *** with finding all of the drivers.
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By Jetackuu 2015-01-11 16:28:48
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Honestly at this point your OS is probably corrupted, what's your dualboot OS?
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By Carbuncle.Scarmiglione 2015-01-11 17:03:35
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Yes I've tried chkdsk /r, and fixmbr and fixboot. I thought the motherboard might have been going bad, but my other Windows boot, XP 32bit, is on a different hard drive, and I don't have any problems on it, so I think the motherboard is fine. I've also ran Western Digital's Data Lifeguard, and found nothing wrong with my other hard drive containing Windows XP 64bit.

As far as why I still use it? I've been using it forever, and I love the layout, and the ease of everything. I've used Windows 7 while fixing my grandpap's laptop, and I just have a hard time trying to find, or fix things that are simple on XP.

I have the SP2 downloaded already, I just can't put it onto my 64bit cd since my other Windows version is 32bit, and it fails at the end. I tried using nLite, but it gives me the same error. It might be possible to slipstream, or use nLite on Windows 7 64bit to put SP2 onto my XP cd though...
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By Carbuncle.Scarmiglione 2015-01-11 17:12:32
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I've also really never had any trouble finding drivers, literally. The only thing I couldn't get to work on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, is iTunes, and that isn't even a big deal.

And as far as service packs, SP2 on x64 was released in 2007, while sp2 for x86 was released in 2004, and SP3 was release in 2008, so there isn't much difference I'm sure.
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By Jetackuu 2015-01-11 17:13:45
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You can try the old fashioned command line method of slipstreaming the data (what I used before nlite) but you'd have to dig around for a how-to.

Honestly the 7 layout isn't that much different than XP.
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By Jetackuu 2015-01-11 17:19:34
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Carbuncle.Scarmiglione said: »
I've also really never had any trouble finding drivers, literally. The only thing I couldn't get to work on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, is iTunes, and that isn't even a big deal.

And as far as service packs, SP2 on x64 was released in 2007, while sp2 for x86 was released in 2004, and SP3 was release in 2008, so there isn't much difference I'm sure.


All depends on the hardware really, driver wise.

well, to be fair itunes sucks.

but you will start seeing more and more software not working, not to mention the severe security issues of running an out of date system online. What hardware are you running it on?
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By Carbuncle.Scarmiglione 2015-01-11 17:22:21
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I already tried the command line method, it won't work since im on 32bit. I get an error right at the end that says "amd64\update\update.exe is not a valid win32 application." which is what I get if I tried nLite also. To be able to slipstream, is has to be on 64bit, but I don't know if it has to be XP, or if any Windows 64bit will work?

And I think the task bar on Windows 7 is hideous lol.

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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2015-01-11 17:22:33
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Carbuncle.Scarmiglione said: »
I've also really never had any trouble finding drivers, literally. The only thing I couldn't get to work on Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, is iTunes, and that isn't even a big deal.

And as far as service packs, SP2 on x64 was released in 2007, while sp2 for x86 was released in 2004, and SP3 was release in 2008, so there isn't much difference I'm sure.

Time wise no, there isn't much separating it but there are some critical components that are not an option. As long as you don't run in to em, that's fine. I ran in to too many problems for programs and games that could not be installed without SP3 and I needed the performance of a more modern os.
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By Jetackuu 2015-01-11 17:41:02
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I love the aero task bar...

and then your best bet is to boot into a 64bit windows PE environment with commandline options.

I know M$ offers a PE disc for win7 you can download and customize, but ultimate boot cd may suffice (not sure if that's 64 bit or not).

Honestly, it's about time to bite the bullet and migrate to Windows 7, but if it's purely looks, there's ways to get the Luna look:

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/make-windows-7-look-like-windows-xp/

for one.

It was weird for my transition too, but as I don't plan on using 8/8.1 and I've long since settled into 7, I usually don't even bother with an XP VM even more, much less a multiboot scenario. (But something you may be interested in: I believe easybcd has an option to quickswap between OS's if you have a multiboot scenario enabled, it's also something you'll want to use to edit 7's bcd file.)
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By Carbuncle.Scarmiglione 2015-01-11 18:20:27
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Jetackuu said: »
Honestly, it's about time to bite the bullet and migrate to Windows 7, but if it's purely looks, there's ways to get the Luna look:

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/make-windows-7-look-like-windows-xp/

Well that is a start. But I still don't want to go to Windows 7 yet. Maybe when I build a new computer, I'll do it, maybe.

I actually use this theme for the task bar, it looks way better than the standard one. Wonder if that would work in Windows 7 with that link of yours?

For now though, I'm still gonna try to slipstream the SP2 onto my XP cd, and try the repair install and see if that will work. I think it has to do with the video card drivers not being meant for SP1, thus causing the BSOD before getting to the desktop. Safe mode, any option, doesn't work and just says something about the setup can't run in safe mode, and restarts. I'm uploading the .rar file on mediafire, and I guess I'll see if my brother will try to get it to work on Windows 7.
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By Jetackuu 2015-01-11 18:26:25
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I skimmed over it, it should work with any XP based theme really, some of the themes may work without patching.

I still have a copy of the FFXI XP theme somewhere (maybe).

If it were a driver issue, safemode would correct that.

use 7zip, dump winrar, holy hell.
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By Carbuncle.Scarmiglione 2015-01-11 18:31:42
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Jetackuu said: »
If it were a driver issue, safemode would correct that.

Well I already ran the Windows repair, but it has to finish installation at the desktop I assume, which it can't do in safe mode. The graphics driver was meant for SP2, not SP1 which my disk is, so I'm thinking that's causing the BSOD

Jetackuu said: »
use 7zip, dump winrar, holy hell.

Err, what's the difference?
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By leo 2015-01-11 23:09:55
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You said you repaired the OS with your inastall disc.

That would never cause it to BSOD when finishing the install. You would instead have a working SP1 OS with crippled drivers you would see these yellow (!) icons on device manager for any incompatible drivers.

As per what Jet said, when you start the computer in safe mode Windows use the standard VGA driver which comes with it. So trying that would certainly allow it to get past any driver related problems.

You must have bad memory or the motherboard has bad capacitors which may be causing ripple on the chipset power rails. That cause glitches and with the glitches come these annoying blue screens.

Open your computer and inspect the motherboard. If you are not sure about how they should look like, post the pictures here and I'll have a look at them.
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By Jetackuu 2015-01-11 23:32:11
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Carbuncle.Scarmiglione said: »
Jetackuu said: »
If it were a driver issue, safemode would correct that.

Well I already ran the Windows repair, but it has to finish installation at the desktop I assume, which it can't do in safe mode. The graphics driver was meant for SP2, not SP1 which my disk is, so I'm thinking that's causing the BSOD

Jetackuu said: »
use 7zip, dump winrar, holy hell.

Err, what's the difference?

Honestly it just sounds like your system is borked at this point, and highly doubt it's driver related.

As for the difference: 7zip is a better compression tool, and free.
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