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Blazed1979 said: »
We have a lot of uneducated, fanatic idiots who identify themselves as Muslims. They're no more a representation of the Quranic teachings than a KKK member is of the christian Bible.
More than a lot really. If fact if anyone were to say that a tiny minority support measures like this, it would outright be a huge lie.
Oddly concerning
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Blazed1979 said: »
We have a lot of uneducated, fanatic idiots who identify themselves as Muslims. They're no more a representation of the Quranic teachings than a KKK member is of the christian Bible.
More than a lot really. If fact if anyone were to say that a tiny minority support measures like this, it would outright be a huge lie.
Oddly concerning
Ugh. Cruising around that entire site is oddly concerning for the amount of statistics regarding American beliefs as well...especially the religion page.
the only difference between the crazy wahhabi dudes who go around killing people and all the other zealots of the world who talk a big game but never amount to much is that the jihad bros are supported by an absolutely staggering amount of money
this money buys guns, ammo, communication, recruitment, bribes, etc., everything you need to pull out a win every so often
these wins may accomplish limited short term goals, but the great thing about crazy ideologies is that they attract really unstable people, and really unstable people are notoriously easy to embolden through victories they vaguely identify with
this money buys guns, ammo, communication, recruitment, bribes, etc., everything you need to pull out a win every so often
these wins may accomplish limited short term goals, but the great thing about crazy ideologies is that they attract really unstable people, and really unstable people are notoriously easy to embolden through victories they vaguely identify with
Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Blazed1979 said: »
We have a lot of uneducated, fanatic idiots who identify themselves as Muslims. They're no more a representation of the Quranic teachings than a KKK member is of the christian Bible.
More than a lot really. If fact if anyone were to say that a tiny minority support measures like this, it would outright be a huge lie.
Oddly concerning
There's a lot of ugliness everywhere. Moderates and people of compassion everywhere need to rise above the ignorant and tackle it together.
About your link: More than anything it shows two things.
First, the degree to which Muslims vary in ethnicity and understanding of Islam, and second how words that are not english shouldn't be used in English if there is a counterpart for it in English. Sharia means "Legislature". Ask people what they think of "Islamic Legislature" who don't speak Arabic and the results might have been different.
EDIT: I would also add, and to put this link in context, Laymen Muslim know little to nothing of Islamic Legislature "Sharia" processes. For the most part, Muslims think of no premarital sexual relations, no consumption of alcohol, no usury or interest based financing, no swine/pig consumption.
But these are commandments on the individual.
"No compulsion in religion".
The only compulsion in Islam is for there to be a deterrence from civil crimes such as murder, theft, adultery, rape, oppression.
And an enforcer of Zakat (charity for muslims) and Jiziyah (charity for non muslims).
Asura.Haorhu said: »
JE SUIS CHARLIE ! #jesuischarlie
Oh fun, I love this tired NTS argument.
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At least one hostage was seized in a town northeast of Paris on Friday during a huge manhunt for two brothers suspected of killing 12 people at a satirical weekly, according to a police source.
Five helicopters were seen flying over an industrial zone outside the town of Dammartin-en-Goele and the French Interior Minister confirmed an operation was taking place there. A police source said the two suspects had been sighted in the town, where at least one person was taken hostage.
Before night fell on Thursday, officers had been focusing on their search some 40 km (25 miles) away on the woodland village of Corcy, not far from a service station where police sources said the brothers had been sighted in ski masks a day after the shootings at the newspaper.
The fugitive suspects are French-born sons of Algerian-born parents, both in their early 30s, and already under police surveillance. One was jailed for 18 months for trying to travel to Iraq a decade ago to fight as part of an Islamist cell. Police said they were "armed and dangerous".
U.S. and European sources close to the investigation said on Thursday that one of the brothers, Said Kouachi, was in Yemen in 2011 for several months training with Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), one of the group's most active affiliates.
A Yemeni official familiar with the matter said the Yemen government was aware of the possibility of a connection between Said Kouachi and AQAP, and was looking into any possible links.
U.S. government sources said Said Kouachi and his brother Cherif Kouachi were listed in two U.S. security databases, a highly classified database containing information on 1.2 million possible counter-terrorism suspects, called TIDE, and the much smaller "no fly" list maintained by the Terrorist Screening Center, an interagency unit.
U.S. television network ABC reported that the brothers had been listed in the databases for "years."
Dave Joly, a spokesman for the Terrorist Screening Center, said he could neither confirm nor deny if the Kouachis were listed in counter-terrorism databases.
While world leaders described Wednesday's attack on the weekly newspaper Cahrlie Hebdo as an assault on democracy, al Qaeda's North Africa branch praised the gunmen as "knight(s) of truth".
Charlie Hebdo, where journalists were gunned down during an editorial meeting, had been firebombed in the past for printing cartoons that poked fun at militant Islam and some that mocked the Prophet Muhammad.
Two of those killed were police posted to protect the paper.
On Thursday, U.S. President Barack Obama made an unannounced visit to the French Embassy in Washington to pay his respects.
He wrote in a condolence book: "As allies across the centuries, we stand united with our French brothers to ensure that justice is done and our way of life is defended. We go forward together knowing that terror is no match for freedom and ideals we stand for - ideals that light the world."
Amid local media reports of isolated incidents of violence directed at Muslims in France, President Francois Hollande and his Socialist government have called on the French not to blame the Islam faith for the Charlie Hebdo killings.
Hollande has held talks with opposition leaders and, in a rare move, was due to invite Marine Le Pen, leader of the resurgent anti-immigrant National Front, to his Elysee Palace for discussions on Friday.
Five helicopters were seen flying over an industrial zone outside the town of Dammartin-en-Goele and the French Interior Minister confirmed an operation was taking place there. A police source said the two suspects had been sighted in the town, where at least one person was taken hostage.
Before night fell on Thursday, officers had been focusing on their search some 40 km (25 miles) away on the woodland village of Corcy, not far from a service station where police sources said the brothers had been sighted in ski masks a day after the shootings at the newspaper.
The fugitive suspects are French-born sons of Algerian-born parents, both in their early 30s, and already under police surveillance. One was jailed for 18 months for trying to travel to Iraq a decade ago to fight as part of an Islamist cell. Police said they were "armed and dangerous".
U.S. and European sources close to the investigation said on Thursday that one of the brothers, Said Kouachi, was in Yemen in 2011 for several months training with Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), one of the group's most active affiliates.
A Yemeni official familiar with the matter said the Yemen government was aware of the possibility of a connection between Said Kouachi and AQAP, and was looking into any possible links.
U.S. government sources said Said Kouachi and his brother Cherif Kouachi were listed in two U.S. security databases, a highly classified database containing information on 1.2 million possible counter-terrorism suspects, called TIDE, and the much smaller "no fly" list maintained by the Terrorist Screening Center, an interagency unit.
U.S. television network ABC reported that the brothers had been listed in the databases for "years."
Dave Joly, a spokesman for the Terrorist Screening Center, said he could neither confirm nor deny if the Kouachis were listed in counter-terrorism databases.
While world leaders described Wednesday's attack on the weekly newspaper Cahrlie Hebdo as an assault on democracy, al Qaeda's North Africa branch praised the gunmen as "knight(s) of truth".
Charlie Hebdo, where journalists were gunned down during an editorial meeting, had been firebombed in the past for printing cartoons that poked fun at militant Islam and some that mocked the Prophet Muhammad.
Two of those killed were police posted to protect the paper.
On Thursday, U.S. President Barack Obama made an unannounced visit to the French Embassy in Washington to pay his respects.
He wrote in a condolence book: "As allies across the centuries, we stand united with our French brothers to ensure that justice is done and our way of life is defended. We go forward together knowing that terror is no match for freedom and ideals we stand for - ideals that light the world."
Amid local media reports of isolated incidents of violence directed at Muslims in France, President Francois Hollande and his Socialist government have called on the French not to blame the Islam faith for the Charlie Hebdo killings.
Hollande has held talks with opposition leaders and, in a rare move, was due to invite Marine Le Pen, leader of the resurgent anti-immigrant National Front, to his Elysee Palace for discussions on Friday.
http://www.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/live-video/
Live here.
They are stuck in a shop/factory with a woman held in hostage since 9h00. The GIGN has been ready to strike for over an hour, but they haven't found any opening yet. There is going to be news given by the police very soon, they might announce that they managed to contact the brothers. They just stopped the helicopters.
Live here.
They are stuck in a shop/factory with a woman held in hostage since 9h00. The GIGN has been ready to strike for over an hour, but they haven't found any opening yet. There is going to be news given by the police very soon, they might announce that they managed to contact the brothers. They just stopped the helicopters.
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No doubt. Last I heard they had a bunch of helicopters circling the area.
Shiva.Onorgul said: »
I'm fairly sure I've never seen a depiction of Jesus's *** and flaccid *** here in the US, anyhow.
Flaccid? Now that would be offensive.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/no-one-murdered-because-of-this-image,29553/
NSFW
Condolences from Serbia, they are well aware of the perils of Islamic extremism.
Vucic sends telegram of condolences to Valls
Quote:
"On behalf of the Serbian government, the people of the Republic of Serbia and myself, I want to express deepest condolences over the tragic loss of human lives in the attack in Paris," Vucic said in the telegram sent to Valls and added that "at such a moment, words of comfort for those who lost their loved ones are hard to find."
"We are appalled by the incident but we are also certain that the Republic of France and the great French civilisation, reputed for its tolerance, would know how to deal with the dangers of terrorism," Vucic underscored.
"The Republic of Serbia will use all its potentials to provide assistance in the fight against terrorism as the greatest global peril," Vucic said in the telegram and added that the Republic of France can always count on sincere and friendly support of the Republic of Serbia.
"We are appalled by the incident but we are also certain that the Republic of France and the great French civilisation, reputed for its tolerance, would know how to deal with the dangers of terrorism," Vucic underscored.
"The Republic of Serbia will use all its potentials to provide assistance in the fight against terrorism as the greatest global peril," Vucic said in the telegram and added that the Republic of France can always count on sincere and friendly support of the Republic of Serbia.
Shootings in Paris right now, at a store, Super Cacher. Looks like ***is getting more than real the last 48 hours.
5 hostages, children included. He's the guy who killed a policewoman by shooting in her back yesterday.
It's clearly not a good idea to go out of your house if you live near Paris. Not to say suicidal.
Two at once, as we say, impossible isn't French. Hopefully no dead people today.
5 hostages, children included. He's the guy who killed a policewoman by shooting in her back yesterday.
It's clearly not a good idea to go out of your house if you live near Paris. Not to say suicidal.
Two at once, as we say, impossible isn't French. Hopefully no dead people today.
First of all, I would like to say, so that I am not misunderstood later, nothing justifies such monstrosity.
I think the main problem here is that some people don't understand (or don't want to understand) that, portraying a prophet in any way is unnacceptable in our belief, let alone in a mocking way. All a Muslim could ask in this context is some respect for religious values and I don't think it is too much to ask for. However, if they don't have any, no Muslim have the right to force it upon them.
That said, maybe seeing a mocking depiction of Jesus (pbuh) doesn't bother you, generally speaking, but it does bother me and expectedly, any other Muslim and it isn't hard to imagine that seeing one of Muhammed (pbuh) would do even more so.
Regardless, murder is murder and if they really believe there is an after life, they should also believe in what is expecting them there for murdering people.
tl,dr; This isn't a matter of a Muslim killing an atheist. They are both human first and I curse this attack as a Muslim.
I think the main problem here is that some people don't understand (or don't want to understand) that, portraying a prophet in any way is unnacceptable in our belief, let alone in a mocking way. All a Muslim could ask in this context is some respect for religious values and I don't think it is too much to ask for. However, if they don't have any, no Muslim have the right to force it upon them.
That said, maybe seeing a mocking depiction of Jesus (pbuh) doesn't bother you, generally speaking, but it does bother me and expectedly, any other Muslim and it isn't hard to imagine that seeing one of Muhammed (pbuh) would do even more so.
Regardless, murder is murder and if they really believe there is an after life, they should also believe in what is expecting them there for murdering people.
tl,dr; This isn't a matter of a Muslim killing an atheist. They are both human first and I curse this attack as a Muslim.
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We do understand that it's unacceptable for a Muslim, we do and we actually respect it. You will never see this in a normal discussion, only in a specific context. However, there is an issue when we take into consideration the open mindedness that we have, at least in France (in Denmark and other countries too, obviously, but France is the example here).
Humour here is very important, I'm sure it is also in other countries too, though. Being the most open minded possible when it comes to houmour is a necessity in 2015, really.
This isn't 0 A.D anymore. Being offended is one thing, not having a sense of humour is another, you also can become violent and then there is making a bad joke. The bottom line is, you do not kill people because they took a ***on your feelings/beliefs through a joke. This isn't how people will stop making those jokes, for the simple reason that there will never be an end to it. This is an utopia, so killing people for that only harms the Muslim community worldwide.
Black people (I differentiate despite them being mostly Muslim, same for Asians, as they're "races"), Jewish, Muslims, Asians, Christians, Gingers, the typical French person (caricatures for every region/city), they all get napalm every day through jokes. It has been like that for so long, but people are always slow to get angry I guess.
Desproges was making jokes that were much harsher when he was alive, yet he died of cancer, not of a bullet.
Furthermore, Dieudonné never got any issues for "La fine équipe du 11 septembre" which is more offensive toward the average Muslim than any of those drawings were.
Do like the Jewish and Muslim communities in France do every day, sue them. You'll win if it's against the law, if not, you lose, but hey, you did what you could within the law, you showed your disapproval and it will be stuck in people's mind. They will most likely not stop, but they'll soften and will most likely reach Dieudonné's level of offense when it comes to humour.
No matter how you look at it, if you get violent over a joke you're just being a bully, a buttdevastated one. You will not earn respect, you will not earn compassion, you will not earn the privilege of people respecting your point of view. You just ruin you own image and your whole community, allowing people to make amalgams and feed hate.
I'm aware that this is only a very small part of the Muslim community but, it's just appalling that people behave in 2015 as people did back in 0 A.D.
We get it, you're not happy, but we need to make those jokes for the open minded ones of your community. Just sit back, relax, ignore the joke, move on with your life and let the grown ups laugh. Here, that's a wise stance, that's what adults would do.
Humour here is very important, I'm sure it is also in other countries too, though. Being the most open minded possible when it comes to houmour is a necessity in 2015, really.
This isn't 0 A.D anymore. Being offended is one thing, not having a sense of humour is another, you also can become violent and then there is making a bad joke. The bottom line is, you do not kill people because they took a ***on your feelings/beliefs through a joke. This isn't how people will stop making those jokes, for the simple reason that there will never be an end to it. This is an utopia, so killing people for that only harms the Muslim community worldwide.
Black people (I differentiate despite them being mostly Muslim, same for Asians, as they're "races"), Jewish, Muslims, Asians, Christians, Gingers, the typical French person (caricatures for every region/city), they all get napalm every day through jokes. It has been like that for so long, but people are always slow to get angry I guess.
Desproges was making jokes that were much harsher when he was alive, yet he died of cancer, not of a bullet.
Furthermore, Dieudonné never got any issues for "La fine équipe du 11 septembre" which is more offensive toward the average Muslim than any of those drawings were.
Do like the Jewish and Muslim communities in France do every day, sue them. You'll win if it's against the law, if not, you lose, but hey, you did what you could within the law, you showed your disapproval and it will be stuck in people's mind. They will most likely not stop, but they'll soften and will most likely reach Dieudonné's level of offense when it comes to humour.
No matter how you look at it, if you get violent over a joke you're just being a bully, a buttdevastated one. You will not earn respect, you will not earn compassion, you will not earn the privilege of people respecting your point of view. You just ruin you own image and your whole community, allowing people to make amalgams and feed hate.
I'm aware that this is only a very small part of the Muslim community but, it's just appalling that people behave in 2015 as people did back in 0 A.D.
We get it, you're not happy, but we need to make those jokes for the open minded ones of your community. Just sit back, relax, ignore the joke, move on with your life and let the grown ups laugh. Here, that's a wise stance, that's what adults would do.
Asura.Vinedrius said: »
First of all, I would like to say, so that I am not misunderstood later, nothing justifies such monstrosity.
I think the main problem here is that some people don't understand (or don't want to understand) that, portraying a prophet in any way is unnacceptable in our belief, let alone in a mocking way. All a Muslim could ask in this context is some respect for religious values and I don't think it is too much to ask for. However, if they don't have any, no Muslim have the right to force it upon them.
That said, maybe seeing a mocking depiction of Jesus (pbuh) doesn't bother you, generally speaking, but it does bother me and expectedly, any other Muslim and it isn't hard to imagine that seeing one of Muhammed (pbuh) would do even more so.
Regardless, murder is murder and if they really believe there is an after life, they should also believe in what is expecting them there for murdering people.
tl,dr; This isn't a matter of a Muslim killing an atheist. They are both human first and I curse this attack as a Muslim.
I think the main problem here is that some people don't understand (or don't want to understand) that, portraying a prophet in any way is unnacceptable in our belief, let alone in a mocking way. All a Muslim could ask in this context is some respect for religious values and I don't think it is too much to ask for. However, if they don't have any, no Muslim have the right to force it upon them.
That said, maybe seeing a mocking depiction of Jesus (pbuh) doesn't bother you, generally speaking, but it does bother me and expectedly, any other Muslim and it isn't hard to imagine that seeing one of Muhammed (pbuh) would do even more so.
Regardless, murder is murder and if they really believe there is an after life, they should also believe in what is expecting them there for murdering people.
tl,dr; This isn't a matter of a Muslim killing an atheist. They are both human first and I curse this attack as a Muslim.
I don't fully agree with the bolded part, though. It's only a matter of opinion, and the majority hold this opinion purely out of respect and reverence. There is no absolute ruling regarding this subject that is driven from Quran or Sunnah (as far as a I know). Same reason some people are against portraying even the companions of the prophet.
@Senkyuu making jokes about Muslims and Islam is one thing, and purposefully insulting their most prominent religious figure in a provocative way is another thing.
All humans have some sense of humor. Even in Saudi Arabia, they do make fun of themselves and their Islamic habits. But nobody will ever joke about the prophet. Not even in the slightest. This is probably the hardest part for non-Muslims to grasp.
Dieudonne can make fun about Muslims, 9/11 etc all he wants, as long as he never tries to insult the prophet, he won't get any death threats from extremists.
Remember Jeff Dunham's "Achmed the dead terrorist"? I don't recall that ever stirring any movement, heck, my friends used to watch and laugh.
There's no "open-minded Muslim" who'll laugh at a joke made to insult the prophet.
All humans have some sense of humor. Even in Saudi Arabia, they do make fun of themselves and their Islamic habits. But nobody will ever joke about the prophet. Not even in the slightest. This is probably the hardest part for non-Muslims to grasp.
Dieudonne can make fun about Muslims, 9/11 etc all he wants, as long as he never tries to insult the prophet, he won't get any death threats from extremists.
Remember Jeff Dunham's "Achmed the dead terrorist"? I don't recall that ever stirring any movement, heck, my friends used to watch and laugh.
There's no "open-minded Muslim" who'll laugh at a joke made to insult the prophet.
Hey, here's an idea.
Stop killing people because they made fun of your imaginary friend.
It's that. ***. easy.
*** idiotic religious zealots.
If they really loved their god so much maybe they should kill THEMSELVES to prove how much they want to be with him.
Edit: I've hit "edit" on this about five times trying to decide if I'm being too angry and closed-minded here, but I just can't bring myself to change my opinion.
The only person you should ever kill over religion is yourself the second you think killing or hurting ANYONE else because of your religion is a good idea. Sadly, none of these jackasses ever have that thought.
Stop killing people because they made fun of your imaginary friend.
It's that. ***. easy.
*** idiotic religious zealots.
If they really loved their god so much maybe they should kill THEMSELVES to prove how much they want to be with him.
Edit: I've hit "edit" on this about five times trying to decide if I'm being too angry and closed-minded here, but I just can't bring myself to change my opinion.
The only person you should ever kill over religion is yourself the second you think killing or hurting ANYONE else because of your religion is a good idea. Sadly, none of these jackasses ever have that thought.
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Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
@Senkyuu making jokes about Muslims and Islam is one thing, and purposefully insulting their most prominent religious figure in a provocative way is another thing.
All humans have some sense of humor. Even in Saudi Arabia, they do make fun of themselves and their Islamic habits. But nobody will ever joke about the prophet. Not even in the slightest. This is probably the hardest part for non-Muslims to grasp.
Dieudonne can make fun about Muslims, 9/11 etc all he wants, as long as he never tries to insult the prophet, he won't get any death threats from extremists.
Remember Jeff Dunham's "Achmed the dead terrorist"? I don't recall that ever stirring any movement, heck, my friends used to watch and laugh.
There's no "open-minded Muslim" who'll laugh at a joke made to insult the prophet.
All humans have some sense of humor. Even in Saudi Arabia, they do make fun of themselves and their Islamic habits. But nobody will ever joke about the prophet. Not even in the slightest. This is probably the hardest part for non-Muslims to grasp.
Dieudonne can make fun about Muslims, 9/11 etc all he wants, as long as he never tries to insult the prophet, he won't get any death threats from extremists.
Remember Jeff Dunham's "Achmed the dead terrorist"? I don't recall that ever stirring any movement, heck, my friends used to watch and laugh.
There's no "open-minded Muslim" who'll laugh at a joke made to insult the prophet.
From what I've talked with my Muslim friends, they don't really care about the drawings and they thought that the censorship in SP was a waste. I'm naive as *** but I want to believe that there are some Muslims other than them that can go on with their lives and enjoy their spiritual beliefs without giving two shits about drawings of the prophet.
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
From what I've talked with my Muslim friends, they don't really care about the drawings and they thought that the censorship in SP was a waste. I'm naive as *** but I want to believe that there are some Muslims other than them that can go on with their lives and enjoy their spiritual beliefs without giving two shits about drawings of the prophet.
I expect you'll find the full spectrum of responses from "These are a sign of how bad the world has gotten" (literally every generation says this, it's amusing when it's not irritating) to "Well, they are making a point... badly." I am critical of Charlie Hebdo because they decided to attack an entire religion -- granted, Charlie Hebdo doesn't like any orthodox religion -- instead of the fundamentalist ***. Again, political cartoons here in the US, even in our equivalent of Charlie Hebdo (MAD Magazine), regularly portray figures like Osama bin Laden or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or generic Islamist terrorists in negative and mocking manners. They don't choose a figurehead relevant to a diverse group and use him to paint the whole with a brush intended for the fringe.
But the sensible reaction would just be to protest (or quietly ignore it and try to drive them out of business). It seems that Muslims in Europe have a problem of letting "protest" turn into violence, though. I may be over-interpreting what these three psychopaths intended, however, so we'll need to see how the case proceeds.
Ragnarok.Zeig said: »
I don't fully agree with the bolded part, though. It's only a matter of opinion, and the majority hold this opinion purely out of respect and reverence. There is no absolute ruling regarding this subject that is driven from Quran or Sunnah (as far as a I know). Same reason some people are against portraying even the companions of the prophet.
Yeah, "unnacceptable" may not be the right word. It sounds a bit too harsh. I think I should have said it wasn't welcome. It is just common sense that, even if you don't have any bad intention, it may give way to disrespectful depictions and even idolization. There are also some hadith about this subject afaik (although it can't be said they are completely accurate).
In the Islamic community, it is generally accepted that such pictures may incite idolization and idolatry is like... the most heinous sin according to Quran. Of course, I can't speak for every single Muslim about their approach to portrayal of religious figures.
When I said portrayal, I wanted to emphasize on drawing a face for a prophet. A good example is the Orthodox mosaics inside Hagia Sofia. Following the fall of Constantinople, it had been turned into a mosque and most faces, even those of angel figures, had been covered with plaster.
Well, the third guy, the lone wolf that killed the policewoman and is right now holding 5/6 people hostages, 2 being supposedly dead, actually tried to make the people who were responsible for the 1995 attacks escape from prison.
So, it seems to be something planned for a long time, as he only came out of jail 2 months ago.
So, it seems to be something planned for a long time, as he only came out of jail 2 months ago.
And now, of course, the scumbags in IS are calling them "heroic jihadists".
Why haven't we* utterly wiped this IS filth off of the planet yet?
*By "we", I mean collectively every Christian, Muslim, atheist, or other reasonable believer in anything from all the countries of the world.
That is to say, we as a human race.
These walking personifications of used colostomy bags in IS just drag the entire species down.
Why haven't we* utterly wiped this IS filth off of the planet yet?
*By "we", I mean collectively every Christian, Muslim, atheist, or other reasonable believer in anything from all the countries of the world.
That is to say, we as a human race.
These walking personifications of used colostomy bags in IS just drag the entire species down.
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Ramyrez said: »
And now, of course, the scumbags in IS are calling them "heroic jihadists".
Why haven't we* utterly wiped this IS filth off of the planet yet?
*By "we", I mean collectively every Christian, Muslim, atheist, or other reasonable believer in anything from all the countries of the world.
That is to say, we as a human race.
These walking personifications of used colostomy bags in IS just drag the entire species down.
Why haven't we* utterly wiped this IS filth off of the planet yet?
*By "we", I mean collectively every Christian, Muslim, atheist, or other reasonable believer in anything from all the countries of the world.
That is to say, we as a human race.
These walking personifications of used colostomy bags in IS just drag the entire species down.
Counter-jihad the jihadists.
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Ramyrez said: »
And now, of course, the scumbags in IS are calling them "heroic jihadists".
Why haven't we* utterly wiped this IS filth off of the planet yet?
*By "we", I mean collectively every Christian, Muslim, atheist, or other reasonable believer in anything from all the countries of the world.
That is to say, we as a human race.
These walking personifications of used colostomy bags in IS just drag the entire species down.
Why haven't we* utterly wiped this IS filth off of the planet yet?
*By "we", I mean collectively every Christian, Muslim, atheist, or other reasonable believer in anything from all the countries of the world.
That is to say, we as a human race.
These walking personifications of used colostomy bags in IS just drag the entire species down.
Counter-jihad the jihadists.
The terrorists have been killed, but some hostages died too.
it was said in our news a few minutes ago that 4 hostages had died in the market.
It's a pity the terrorists were killed. They got off easy.
All I can say is my sympathies are with the families of those murdered and my fervent wish is that the last thought these terrorists had is the realization that there is no heaven for them, no line of virgin girls, just an eternity of nothing following a wasted life.
Welcome to oblivion, you piece of ***terrorists.
Welcome to oblivion, you piece of ***terrorists.
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Ramyrez said: »
All I can say is my sympathies are with the families of those murdered and my fervent wish is that the last thought these terrorists had is the realization that there is no heaven for them, no line of virgin girls, just an eternity of nothing following a wasted life.
Welcome to oblivion, you piece of ***terrorists.
Welcome to oblivion, you piece of ***terrorists.
I'm not sure why they fled. They can't possibly think they can get away with doing a massive murder in a capital city of some developed country.
Surely they know they're screwed anyway, they should've just killed their way out and kill everyone in sight until the police shoot them down, or if they only wanted to attack that magazine, then they might as well shot themselves after murdering them.
Why do all those hijacking cars, running away, hiding and taking random hostages? sounds like a lot of effort and it's not a very "heroic" ending.
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