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 Asura.Sechs
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-03-28 16:57:23
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Sylph.Oraen said: »
This all comes down to how effectively you can remain in front of the mob, and there are quite a few examples of countering, cleaving, or gaze mobs that you'll want to avoid.
Which is exactely what kept me away from Closed Position even at level 99, it was quite cool back then if you guys remember, before Adoulin I mean.

You'd have to create multiple sets variation, and I already have so many TP sets for DNC I don't really want to make things even more complicated adding a dynamic feet field to handle wether or not I'm facing the current target.

I dunno, it might just be me being overly OCD but it annoys me a lot.



Regardless of that, I think Relic Feet +3 are still BiS for Steps.
I'm totally interested in getting them even without Closed Position. Maybe not now but when prices will be even cheaper. They started to crush already but I want them even cheaper.
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By hobo 2018-03-28 18:01:03
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Yea personally I avoid the front of mobs as much as I can out of habit, too many frontal based attacks that are a pain to be hit with. Closed position just seems like it is asking to get you killed.

Prices seem to be rather low for the shards at least, I have seen some at 800-1m, voids under 2. With the update hopefully all prices get a bit more consistent, instead of some crazy people trying to sell bodies for 20m.
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By Shiva.Arislan 2018-03-28 18:04:10
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If you're in a situation without Samurai Roll support, then I could see 5/5 Closed + Relic always being really nice. If you're running with a COR tho... you might want to check your likely x-hit range to see if that extra STP is doing anything for you at all.

Asura.Sechs said: »
You'd have to create multiple sets variation, and I already have so many TP sets for DNC I don't really want to make things even more complicated adding a dynamic feet field to handle wether or not I'm facing the current target.

A manual toggle is pretty simple to implement.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2018-03-28 18:15:54
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As long as you're benefiting from the TP overflow by going over your x-hit, I'm still in relic feet's camp. If you're using Terp and Pyrrhic, then yeah, definitely do what you can to limit that overflow.
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By Asura.Sechs 2018-03-29 01:29:23
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Shiva.Arislan said: »
A manual toggle is pretty simple to implement.
Absolutely, doesn't make it any less annoying to me though.

(and tbf I don't think it should be overly complicated to implement the positional check as well, that info is present in packets I think as there are specific addons that check for that)
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By Leviathan.Katriina 2018-04-17 02:00:49
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I did a comparison between perfect QA Herc [Body, Feet] vs. Relic +3 [Body, Feet] for [Terp/Twashtar] and [Aeneas/Twashtar] TP Sets with Terp Spamming PK and Aeneas Spamming Rudra:

[Terp/Twashtar] QA
TP:3236.175
WS/Round:2.28
WS:12974

[Terp/Twashtar] Relic +3
TP:3206.777
WS/Round:2.30
WS:12974

The previous posted TP set used Ashera+Relic Feet:
TP:3233.034
WS/Round:2.22
WS:12974
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Ashera and QA wins over Relic by 1% only...
Relic Body + 3 is quite impressive even for Terp users.

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[Aeneas/Twashtar]QA:
TP:3559.793
WS/Round:2.66
WS:14913

[Aeneas/Twashtar]Relic+3:
TP:3706.300
WS/Round:2.41
WS:14706
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Relic +3 wins by 4% over QA.

Updated TP set for [Aeneas/Twashtar] with Relic +3 Feet instead of Herc TA4
Edit: New Merits are 5/5 Closed Position 3/5 NFR 1/5 Saber 1/5 FD
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By Shiva.Flowen 2018-04-23 08:45:18
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Leviathan.Katriina said: »
I did a comparison between perfect QA Herc [Body, Feet] vs. Relic +3 [Body, Feet] for [Terp/Twashtar] and [Aeneas/Twashtar] TP Sets with Terp Spamming PK and Aeneas Spamming Rudra:

[Terp/Twashtar] QA
TP:3236.175
WS/Round:2.28
WS:12974

[Terp/Twashtar] Relic +3
TP:3206.777
WS/Round:2.30
WS:12974

The previous posted TP set used Ashera+Relic Feet:
TP:3233.034
WS/Round:2.22
WS:12974
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Ashera and QA wins over Relic by 1% only...
Relic Body + 3 is quite impressive even for Terp users.

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[Aeneas/Twashtar]QA:
TP:3559.793
WS/Round:2.66
WS:14913

[Aeneas/Twashtar]Relic+3:
TP:3706.300
WS/Round:2.41
WS:14706
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Relic +3 wins by 4% over QA.

Updated TP set for [Aeneas/Twashtar] with Relic +3 Feet instead of Herc TA4
Edit: New Merits are 5/5 Closed Position 3/5 NFR 1/5 Saber 1/5 FD

Hi Katriina,

Nice work! By perfect QA herc, do you mean DM augment QA+3 acc/att >30? Looks like I will go through with relic +3 body!

Also, how close is STR/DA cape vs STR/WSD vs DEX/WSD for PK with Terp AM3?

Cheers
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