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French Intelligence Officer Defects to Al Qaida
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By Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby 2014-10-07 12:06:22
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Your cars still look like Happy Meal toys, your haircuts are still from the 60's, your women are still hairy, and your teeth are still crooked.
Spoken like someone who has never been to Europe even once in their life. I choose to spend my extended vacations among the vastly superior cultures of China and Japan. That being said, I have worked with hundreds of Europeans, roomed with a few, seen too many hairy armpits on your women, and I stand by my claims. If things have changed in the past few years, thank an American.
By volkom 2014-10-07 12:09:20
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Bismarck.Dracondria said: »Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Your cars still look like Happy Meal toys, your haircuts are still from the 60's, your women are still hairy, and your teeth are still crooked.
Spoken like someone who has never been to Europe even once in their life. I choose to spend my extended vacations among the vastly superior cultures of China and Japan. That being said, I have worked with hundreds of Europeans, roomed with a few, seen too many hairy armpits on your women, and I stand by my claims. If things have changed in the past few years, thank an American.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-10-07 12:24:40
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Bismarck.Dracondria said: »Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Your cars still look like Happy Meal toys, your haircuts are still from the 60's, your women are still hairy, and your teeth are still crooked.
Spoken like someone who has never been to Europe even once in their life. I choose to spend my extended vacations among the vastly superior cultures of China and Japan. That being said, I have worked with hundreds of Europeans, roomed with a few, seen too many hairy armpits on your women, and I stand by my claims. If things have changed in the past few years, thank an American. So that's a no, you've never been to Europe.
FYI, waxing and hair removal techniques have been around and practiced for, literally, thousands of years.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaving#History
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugaring_(epilation)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threading_(epilation)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini_waxing
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-10-07 12:25:55
Except the girl under the us flag is Elisabetta Canalis, an italian showgirl and actress. What a dumbass.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-10-07 12:32:53
Except the girl under the us flag is Elisabetta Canalis, an italian showgirl and actress. What a dumbass. It's funny because it's true lmao!
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-10-07 12:41:13
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Bismarck.Dracondria said: »Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Your cars still look like Happy Meal toys, your haircuts are still from the 60's, your women are still hairy, and your teeth are still crooked.
Spoken like someone who has never been to Europe even once in their life. I choose to spend my extended vacations among the vastly superior cultures of China and Japan. That being said, I have worked with hundreds of Europeans, roomed with a few, seen too many hairy armpits on your women, and I stand by my claims. If things have changed in the past few years, thank an American. Dat yellow fever.
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Bismarck.Dracondria said: »Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Your cars still look like Happy Meal toys, your haircuts are still from the 60's, your women are still hairy, and your teeth are still crooked.
Spoken like someone who has never been to Europe even once in their life. I choose to spend my extended vacations among the vastly superior cultures of China and Japan. That being said, I have worked with hundreds of Europeans, roomed with a few, seen too many hairy armpits on your women, and I stand by my claims. If things have changed in the past few years, thank an American. So that's a no, you've never been to Europe.
FYI, waxing and hair removal techniques have been around and practiced for, literally, thousands of years.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaving#History
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugaring_(epilation)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threading_(epilation)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini_waxingI thought he wasn't serious about that, I still think he's not.
I mean, in 2014, how can you believe that the trend of waxing/shaving hasn't hit every part of the world?
And even if it didn't, what's wrong with hairy women? That's some yellow fever judgemental attitude right here.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-10-07 12:43:59
He likes his girls shaved, so he goes to Japan. Am I the only one seeing a fault in that plan? Lol.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-10-07 12:46:25
It's only the pits appearantly... otherwise yeah...
I'm not familiar with the shaving habits of chinese women though. I don't get how either of them are superior cultures either but yeah...
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-10-07 13:21:33
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Your cars still look like Happy Meal toys, your haircuts are still from the 60's, your women are still hairy, and your teeth are still crooked.
Spoken like someone who has never been to Europe even once in their life.
Yeah...This is getting kind of sad, but it does remind me of my cousin's reaction (who was four at the time) to seeing a lard-butt in the check out queue in front of us when they were visiting. The lady was a typical American stereotype. Clinically obese and riding a scooter.
Oh, it was bad!
"Fat" and "fett" are pronounced similarly in English and German. I had to hush her, but she wasn't wrong by questioning how could someone possibly be that fat.
By Dolphis 2014-10-07 13:33:36
Great way to stay on topic everyone. We go from French intel officer defecting to Al Qaeda, to discussing european culture. Flawless I think this thread needs to be locked.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-10-07 13:35:40
Great way to stay on topic everyone. We go from French intel officer defecting to Al Qaeda, to discussing european culture. Flawless I think this thread needs to be locked. Clearly you've not been around here much... Let's keep it that way ^^
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By Fenrir.Squintik 2014-10-07 13:39:40
Great way to stay on topic everyone.
What does "on topic" mean?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-07 13:51:37
Great way to stay on topic everyone. We go from French intel officer defecting to Al Qaeda, to discussing european culture. Flawless I think this thread needs to be locked.
By Jetackuu 2014-10-07 13:52:26
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Also: George W. Bush was not elected President in 2000, Al Gore was (as almost as disturbing as that may be).
Can thank his daddy and his brother for that one. I guess facts don't mean much to you in this matter? Do we really need to go over how most Florida recounts showed that W got more votes? We get it. You want to deny reality because you guys invested what little credibility you had in Gore being the winner. If governors could fix elections, they'd never be voted out. Grow up. Talk about denying reality... That's a joke coming from a religious person.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-07 13:55:48
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Also: George W. Bush was not elected President in 2000, Al Gore was (as almost as disturbing as that may be).
Can thank his daddy and his brother for that one. I guess facts don't mean much to you in this matter? Do we really need to go over how most Florida recounts showed that W got more votes? We get it. You want to deny reality because you guys invested what little credibility you had in Gore being the winner. If governors could fix elections, they'd never be voted out. Grow up. Talk about denying reality...
Looks like Bush won Florida to me.
Yup, he did win Florida.
So, what's your reality like anyway? You know, the one where Bush didn't win Florida?
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By Jetackuu 2014-10-07 14:01:05
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Also: George W. Bush was not elected President in 2000, Al Gore was (as almost as disturbing as that may be).
Can thank his daddy and his brother for that one. I guess facts don't mean much to you in this matter? Do we really need to go over how most Florida recounts showed that W got more votes? We get it. You want to deny reality because you guys invested what little credibility you had in Gore being the winner. If governors could fix elections, they'd never be voted out. Grow up. Talk about denying reality...
Looks like Bush won Florida to me.
Yup, he did win Florida.
So, what's your reality like anyway? You know, the one where Bush didn't win Florida?
I'm laughing at this, between you not knowing how voting works, and how those counts are skewed, and his brother's office involvement. It would be comical if it weren't so sad, but the past is the past, and Texas has it's village idiot back.
By Altimaomega 2014-10-07 14:07:45
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Also: George W. Bush was not elected President in 2000, Al Gore was (as almost as disturbing as that may be).
Can thank his daddy and his brother for that one. I guess facts don't mean much to you in this matter? Do we really need to go over how most Florida recounts showed that W got more votes? We get it. You want to deny reality because you guys invested what little credibility you had in Gore being the winner. If governors could fix elections, they'd never be voted out. Grow up. Talk about denying reality...
Looks like Bush won Florida to me.
Yup, he did win Florida.
So, what's your reality like anyway? You know, the one where Bush didn't win Florida?
I'm laughing at this, between you not knowing how voting works, and how those counts are skewed, and his brother's office involvement. It would be comical if it weren't so sad, but the past is the past, and Texas has it's village idiot back.
Elaborate more on your conspiracy theory of how everything is always a Bush's fault.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-10-07 14:10:30
He likes his girls shaved, so he goes to Japan. Am I the only one seeing a fault in that plan? Lol. Actually, porn is a bad thing in that regard.
I have a friend living in Japan, she's a woman. One day we were talking about that and I asked her if girls in Japan were usually hairy or not. She explained that, first the Japanese body is rather hairless, and regarding armpits and other things, they shaved like crazy there.
I was surprised, but she explained that she was just as surprised when she went to the public baths just to see everyone "like her".
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-10-07 14:17:42
Don't get me wrong, I was merely poking fun at the fact that he himself was using stereotypes(wrong ones too).
By Jetackuu 2014-10-07 14:18:48
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Also: George W. Bush was not elected President in 2000, Al Gore was (as almost as disturbing as that may be).
Can thank his daddy and his brother for that one. I guess facts don't mean much to you in this matter? Do we really need to go over how most Florida recounts showed that W got more votes? We get it. You want to deny reality because you guys invested what little credibility you had in Gore being the winner. If governors could fix elections, they'd never be voted out. Grow up. Talk about denying reality...
Looks like Bush won Florida to me.
Yup, he did win Florida.
So, what's your reality like anyway? You know, the one where Bush didn't win Florida?
I'm laughing at this, between you not knowing how voting works, and how those counts are skewed, and his brother's office involvement. It would be comical if it weren't so sad, but the past is the past, and Texas has it's village idiot back.
Elaborate more on your conspiracy theory of how everything is always a Bush's fault.
Oh look, making ***up again, as usual.
We could talk about Prescott Bush and the plotted overthrow of the United States Government to instil a fascist regime instead.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-10-07 14:21:10
A lot of talk about bushes on this page.
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By Jetackuu 2014-10-07 14:22:14
A lot of talk about bushes on this page. Does the carpet match the drapes?
(rhetorical)
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-07 14:46:16
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Also: George W. Bush was not elected President in 2000, Al Gore was (as almost as disturbing as that may be).
Can thank his daddy and his brother for that one. I guess facts don't mean much to you in this matter? Do we really need to go over how most Florida recounts showed that W got more votes? We get it. You want to deny reality because you guys invested what little credibility you had in Gore being the winner. If governors could fix elections, they'd never be voted out. Grow up. Talk about denying reality...
Looks like Bush won Florida to me.
Yup, he did win Florida.
So, what's your reality like anyway? You know, the one where Bush didn't win Florida?
I'm laughing at this, between you not knowing how voting works, and how those counts are skewed, and his brother's office involvement. It would be comical if it weren't so sad, but the past is the past, and Texas has it's village idiot back. Obviously you didn't even read the link. The picture was to show overwhelming support based by state demographics, where the democrat supporters tend to be in densely populated areas (go figure) but Florida isn't all one big city.
But still, Bush won Florida. Facts show that. Keep dreaming that he didn't win.
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By Altimaomega 2014-10-07 14:48:45
Gilgamesh.Tenshibaby said: »Also: George W. Bush was not elected President in 2000, Al Gore was (as almost as disturbing as that may be).
Can thank his daddy and his brother for that one. I guess facts don't mean much to you in this matter? Do we really need to go over how most Florida recounts showed that W got more votes? We get it. You want to deny reality because you guys invested what little credibility you had in Gore being the winner. If governors could fix elections, they'd never be voted out. Grow up. Talk about denying reality...
Looks like Bush won Florida to me.
Yup, he did win Florida.
So, what's your reality like anyway? You know, the one where Bush didn't win Florida?
I'm laughing at this, between you not knowing how voting works, and how those counts are skewed, and his brother's office involvement. It would be comical if it weren't so sad, but the past is the past, and Texas has it's village idiot back.
Elaborate more on your conspiracy theory of how everything is always a Bush's fault.
Oh look, making ***up again, as usual.
We could talk about Prescott Bush and the plotted overthrow of the United States Government to instil a fascist regime instead.
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By Jetackuu 2014-10-07 14:53:49
Obviously you didn't even read the link. The picture was to show overwhelming support based by state demographics, where the democrat supporters tend to be in densely populated areas (go figure) but Florida isn't all one big city.
But still, Bush won Florida. Facts show that. Keep dreaming that he didn't win.
I've read extensively on the subject (which obviously you haven't) or you'd know that he lost Florida, but between his brother, his daddies money/buddies and a few judges said "no more recounts" then again the entire process for the recounts was amiss anyway.
By Altimaomega 2014-10-07 14:59:36
Jet's read extensively on the subject everyone case closed.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-07 14:59:58
Obviously you didn't even read the link. The picture was to show overwhelming support based by state demographics, where the democrat supporters tend to be in densely populated areas (go figure) but Florida isn't all one big city.
But still, Bush won Florida. Facts show that. Keep dreaming that he didn't win.
I've read extensively on the subject (which obviously you haven't) or you'd know that he lost Florida, but between his brother, his daddies money/buddies and a few judges said "no more recounts" then again the entire process for the recounts was amiss anyway. You know, I highly doubt you read "extensively" on anything, especially since you openly admit to being lazy in providing your sources.
So, here's your chance to prove me wrong. Show us your research into why you think Bush lost when every single record shows that he won.
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By Altimaomega 2014-10-07 15:03:07
Obviously you didn't even read the link. The picture was to show overwhelming support based by state demographics, where the democrat supporters tend to be in densely populated areas (go figure) but Florida isn't all one big city.
But still, Bush won Florida. Facts show that. Keep dreaming that he didn't win.
I've read extensively on the subject (which obviously you haven't) or you'd know that he lost Florida, but between his brother, his daddies money/buddies and a few judges said "no more recounts" then again the entire process for the recounts was amiss anyway. You know, I highly doubt you read "extensively" on anything, especially since you openly admit to being lazy in providing your sources.
So, here's your chance to prove me wrong. Show us your research into why you think Bush lost when every single record shows that he won.
Jet show proof on something. Hahahahahaa
By Jetackuu 2014-10-07 15:10:11
It's not that hard to google bush gore 200 election recount and read up on the counting methods used, the votes that were ignored, the harassment of the team doing the recount, the shady court rulings, the illegal practices at the voting offices in the first place, and not to mention the blatant abuse of power by the Governor's office. It's like you guys don't even read.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-10-07 15:11:51
It's not that hard to google bush gore 200 election recount and read up on the counting methods used, the votes that were ignored, the harassment of the team doing the recount, the shady court rulings, the illegal practices at the voting offices in the first place, and not to mention the blatant abuse of power by the Governor's office. It's like you guys don't even read. Makes radical statement, asks/demands others to do the research to prove his radical statement.
Classic Jet.
Here's a hint Jet: your lack of substantiating your claims is why people don't listen to you at all, except to ridicule you on a constant basis.
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Quote: IRBIL, Iraq — A former French intelligence officer who defected to al Qaida was among the targets of the first wave of U.S. air strikes in Syria last month, according to people familiar with the defector’s movements and identity.
Two European intelligence officials described the former French officer as the highest ranking defector ever to go over to the terrorist group and called his defection one of the most dangerous developments in the West’s long confrontation with al Qaida.
The identity of the officer is a closely guarded secret. Two people, independently of one another, provided the same name, which McClatchy is withholding pending further confirmation. All of the sources agreed that a former French officer was one of the people targeted when the United States struck eight locations occupied by the Nusra Front, al Qaida’s Syrian affiliate. The former officer apparently survived the assault, which included strikes by 47 cruise missiles.
U.S. officials have acknowledged that the assault on the Nusra Front locations, which came as the Americans and coalition partners also struck Islamic State positions elsewhere, was aimed at members of what the Obama administration has dubbed the Khorasan group, a unit of top-level terror operatives who had been dispatched to Syria to plot attacks on the West.
The only member of that unit U.S. officials have identified is Muhsin al Fahdli, a 33-year-old one-time confidant of al Qaida founder Osama bin Laden. The United States offered a $7 million reward in October 2012 for information leading to Fahdli’s death or capture. Twitter accounts associated with jihadi sympathizers have said Fahdli was killed, but U.S. officials have said that information remains unconfirmed.
The former French officer may have been a more important target. Syrian rebels battling to topple President Bashar Assad said that U.S. officials had told them before the strikes that they were closely monitoring the defector’s movements.
European intelligence officials said the former officer had defected from either French military intelligence or from France’s foreign intelligence agency, the General Directorate for External Security, known by its French-language acronym as the DGSE.
The former officer, according to one rebel source, is an explosives expert who fought in Afghanistan and in Syria with al Qaida and had assembled a group of about five men that was operating out of a mosque in Idlib.
The French operative is “still alive and kicking” after the airstrikes, said one European intelligence official, who described the man as “highly trained in Western intelligence trade-craft and explosives.” The combination of Western-style intelligence training and devout jihadist beliefs made him among the most dangerous of al Qaida operatives, the intelligence official said.
It was unknown whether the former officer’s al Qaida sympathies were missed during the French vetting process or manifested themselves later.
Four European intelligence agents from a variety of countries with a range of knowledge of the situation were able to confirm or partially confirm the French agent’s existence. All declined to speak for attribution because of the sensitive nature of the information and because they feared being charged criminally in their home countries for revealing classified information. One called the existence of the French officer “absolutely top secret.”
“I’m rather appalled I’m even having this conversation,” he said.
“We don’t know if he was sleeper [agent] or radicalized after he joined the service,” said another European intelligence official familiar with the man’s background. “I assume my French colleagues are working hard to determine that and if they have figured it out, they certainly aren’t sharing how they ended up in this mess, which as you could expect they find rather embarrassing.”
Two European intelligence sources provided the man’s name but asked that it not be published – one cited possible violence in France against the man’s family. Both independently provided the same name.
When reached for comment on the situation, a U.S. intelligence official refused to provide any information.
Three attempts to discuss the matter with French intelligence services were rebuffed. “There is no way I am going to discuss this matter” was one response.
An intelligence official from a third country, who said that his familiarity with the situation stemmed only from casual conversation and not from an official briefing, said the situation represents an “epic nightmare that we have so far been spared.”
“We’ve seen Arab partners lose well trained people to these groups, and in a handful of cases those defectors have benefited from our training through partnership programs,” he said. “It’s the cost of doing business when you aid some of our regional allies.”
But the French officer’s defection, he said, is the first he’d heard of by “someone with legitimate security clearance and Western-style vetting and training.”
“As embarrassed as the French must be right now, it should be pointed out that the French services are highly regarded within the intelligence community as consummate and loyal professionals,” he said. “This failure, and I do believe this happened, must be seen in the context as an outlier and not anything systematic about the French services.”
One European official directly familiar with the case said the partial confusion over the man’s resume – which has been alternately described as French Special Forces, military intelligence or DGSE – probably stems from the overlapping “seconding” process where specialists move between branches of the government on a fairly regular basis.
“It sounds likely he started as French military and maybe because of an Arabic family background and appearance, language skills and a high degree of competency, he would then be loaned out to different aspects of the French services,” the European official said. “Everyone does that all the time,” he said, citing as an example a member of the U.S. military’s Special Operations Command being assigned to the CIA.
For their part, Syrian rebels, who are already furious at the United States for not notifying them in advance about the strikes and for not including Assad government facilities among the targets, expressed puzzlement at why the U.S. government hadn’t approached them about trying to seize the man.
But a European intelligence official said the decision to try to strike the defector with a missile rather than capture him was in part to keep the French agent’s existence a secret. “Perhaps some problems are best buried forever under a pile of rubble,” he said.
Quote: Agent is said to be highest ranking official to have joined organization
Quote: He is the first known person “with legitimate security clearance and Western-style vetting and training”
Quote: he is a former explosives expert with an Arab family and his movements are being closely watched by Western authorities.
Full story
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/10/05/242218_sources-us-air-strikes-in-syria.html?sp=/99/117/&rh=1#storylink=cpy
A high ranking intelligence agent defecting to a rogue paramilitary group? Maybe he's a triple agent?

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