Sigurd's Descendants: The Art Of Dragon Slaying.

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By SimonSes 2019-02-04 23:29:36
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How is PDL neck a +9.1%, when +10%PDL itself is +10% damage and you have +15 STR on top of that.
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By SimonSes 2019-02-04 23:30:18
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Asura.Veikur said: »
Forgot about the STR, but again, literally doesn't matter for the overall results.

Also, you're forgetting the fotia belt.

No, I dont forgot anything. I calculate it with Fotia belt.
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By Asura.Veikur 2019-02-04 23:34:23
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4.05/4.455

Regardless, AGAIN, the final point is that you need 2500ish TP for Stardiver to outperform Drakesbane with augmented Ryunohige.

PDL vs Fotia neck in no way changes this.
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By SimonSes 2019-02-04 23:36:14
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Asura.Veikur said: »
4.05/4.455

It's 4.455/4.05 lol

Even use simple logic. If you raise pdif by 10%, you raise damage by 10%.
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By SimonSes 2019-02-04 23:54:54
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Asura.Veikur said: »
Regardless, AGAIN, the final point is that you need 2500ish TP for Stardiver to outperform Drakesbane with augmented Ryunohige.

Well it should put it closer to 2250.

Also could you post WS set for Drakesbane? It would be nice to know what you used.
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By Asura.Veikur 2019-02-05 14:03:48
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Sets for both DB and SD were pulled from the Here Be DRGs guide.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2019-02-08 14:22:57
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So Dragoon has a good slashing damage option now.

Finally we get Savage Blade. The Job was a Knight of Sandoria that did not have access to this skill, let alone the fact it is a jumping attack they could of easily mastered. Yet some how COR could use it before we could.

Sadly for screwing around the best option I could find was Tanmo+1 offhand.

RMEA polearm, Exalted Staff+1 and the Ambu Sword should cover all bases.

The Impulse spear is neat if you have nothing better. Currently is just behind a 3000 to stardiver. So with the Impulse bonus it hits really hard paired with WSDMg. It's kind of similar to cross reaper in a way. I'm going to be using it on WAR when the situation calls for it.
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By Asura.Highwynn 2019-02-08 14:57:29
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I mean DRG has a C- in swords, so....Although it could have been decent for procs in Abyssea, I guess.
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By SimonSes 2019-02-08 15:28:11
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Asura.Highwynn said: »
I mean DRG has a C- in swords, so....Although it could have been decent for procs in Abyssea, I guess.

and? thats 56 skill vs A+, which is like 50 acc? DRG with sword has probably more accuracy than WAR or COR (because of native very high accuracy)
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By Asura.Veikur 2019-02-08 15:44:13
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Vampirism is probably our best offhand option. 25 STR is nice.

Tanmoyagi +1 is nice if accuracy is needed though.
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By Asura.Veikur 2019-02-08 23:53:09
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For shits and giggles, @1000 TP, Kaja/Vampirism:
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By Asura.Veikur 2019-02-09 01:31:21
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More stuff because I felt like it:
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By Asura.Highwynn 2019-02-10 10:34:24
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and? thats 56 skill vs A+, which is like 50 acc? DRG with sword has probably more accuracy than WAR or COR (because of native very high accuracy)

Jobs with C skills in a weapon don't typically get the quested weapon skill.
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By Leviathan.Sidra 2019-02-10 10:36:08
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It's accessible via the new Ambuscade sword. That's why his data and the discussion.

I am trying to figure out a use for it, though. I remember once I did Ony with a bunch of Savage Bladers, and I used Camlann's so I wasn't skillchaining. Savage Blade would have been stronger. But the whole thing was sub optimal, I should have been Mewing on SMN and let someone else hit it. And a lot of stuff strong to piercing is weak to blunt, and we have really solid options there already.

Short of super niche like Ruann caturae shields or Temperance, I am not really thinking of anything.
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By SimonSes 2019-02-10 14:58:17
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I feel that there is something wrong in those numbers for Impulse Drive Veikur.

With 2.156 fTP it should be
7011*2.156+4465 just from 2 base hits, which is 19580 before you even consider multi-attack proc. So where that 16253 comes from. It's the same for values after jumps.
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By Asura.Saevel 2019-02-10 14:58:32
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That would be a very bad option because it forces you to DW which is bad or use one hand which is worse. Savage Blade at 1K is weak but it experiences a huge amount of damage scaling with TP, which makes the magian gun near broken tier for COR.

DRG's have Stardiver, one of the strongest WS's in the game, along with a TP Bonus 500 weapon to use it with.
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By Asura.Veikur 2019-02-10 15:04:46
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SimonSes said: »
I feel that there is something wrong in those numbers for Impulse Drive Veikur.

With 2.156 fTP it should be
7011*2.156+4465 just from 2 base hits, which is 19580 before you even consider multi-attack proc. So where that 16253 comes from. It's the same for values after jumps.
Son of a ***, I forgot Impulse drive was actually 2 hits. Welp, be back in a bit.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2019-02-10 15:06:48
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Asura.Saevel said: »
That would be a very bad option because it forces you to DW which is bad or use one hand which is worse. Savage Blade at 1K is weak but it experiences a huge amount of damage scaling with TP, which makes the magian gun near broken tier for COR.

DRG's have Stardiver, one of the strongest WS's in the game, along with a TP Bonus 500 weapon to use it with.


For sure it isn't optimal. It's just something to screw around with/another tool in the tool box. Quetz(Easy beads dual wield.. laziness yay!), Caturae, Warder of Temp, etc.
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By Asura.Veikur 2019-02-10 15:18:34
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There we go.
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By Asura.Reichleiu 2019-02-10 16:36:12
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So where does the new Kaja Lance fall in relation to REMA options? I know the math is above. If I'm interpreting it correctly, it's comparable to Stardiver at 1k TP with a Ryu, but behind Trish? Or am I reading something wrong?
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By Asura.Veikur 2019-02-10 18:12:14
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Best non-RMEAD, probably, including un-augmented. Impulse Drive from Kaja poops on Habile Mazrak Stardivers, and a well augmented Reienkyo isn't significantly better than a Habile Mazrak anyway.

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By Phoenix.Luxxord 2019-02-10 18:48:50
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SO what does a savage blade set look like for drg?
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By Odin.Skeero 2019-02-10 19:09:54
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If i see anyone use a sword on drg i will call the cops
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By Asura.Eiryl 2019-02-10 19:17:55
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Odin.Skeero said: »
If i see anyone use a sword on drg i will call the cops

I once used DRG/NIN with 2 Swords for the rank 2-3 ahriman fight waaaaaay back in the day.
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By Bahamut.Shozokui 2019-02-10 20:24:31
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Phoenix.Luxxord said: »
SO what does a savage blade set look like for drg?

It looks exactly like a Camlann's Torment set
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2019-02-10 20:37:32
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Asura.Eiryl said: »
Odin.Skeero said: »
If i see anyone use a sword on drg i will call the cops

I once used DRG/NIN with 2 Swords for the rank 2-3 ahriman fight waaaaaay back in the day.
I remember that DRGs used staff and swords for that skeleton fight, 5-1?

The good old times of shouting for weeks to not get invited because of polearms.
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By Afania 2019-02-11 00:54:13
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Odin.Skeero said: »
If i see anyone use a sword on drg i will call the cops

Historically dragoons used swords so....;)

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By Asura.Veikur 2019-02-11 01:00:51
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Also guns. TP Bonus gun now, please. Gimme those 2750 TP Stardivers @1000 TP.
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By Afania 2019-02-11 01:03:22
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Asura.Veikur said: »
Also guns. TP Bonus gun now, please. Gimme those 2750 TP Stardivers @1000 TP.

Yes please ;)
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