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July Update confirms Haste II; a great return?
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-07-08 09:27:13
Cerberus.Spirachub said: »As expected corsair and whm got replaced for rng+pld setup fight.
inc "why brd over cor" debate.
One reason is because flurry and haste do not stack, if RNGs need the haste to keep shadows up, BRD is better.
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2014-07-08 11:31:18
We know if Haste II overwrites/prevents potent Slow effects yet?
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-07-08 11:33:56
We know if Haste II overwrites/prevents potent Slow effects yet?
It prevents and overwrites a few slow 1 moves I've seen so far, but I haven't tried on anything that would be considered slow 2.
Incidentally, flurry 2 on Joachim is hilarious.
By playzthegame 2014-07-08 11:47:06
I found haste 2 and flurry 2 at the western adoulin waterfront, and idea where the tier 1 versions are? Also im still looking for frazzle and distract. Thank you in advance
By wormfeeder 2014-07-08 11:52:04
I found haste 2 and flurry 2 at the western adoulin waterfront, and idea where the tier 1 versions are? Also im still looking for frazzle and distract. Thank you in advance haste you get in selbina flurry might be there also.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-07-08 11:52:11
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By Quetzalcoatl.Orestes 2014-07-08 11:52:50
I found haste 2 and flurry 2 at the western adoulin waterfront, and idea where the tier 1 versions are? Also im still looking for frazzle and distract. Thank you in advance
Quoting from BG
Quote: Falgima- Selbina (H-9) Flurry
Tya Padolih - Mhaura (G-9) Distract, Frazzle
Mazuro-Ookuro - Tavnazian Safehold (F-9) Frazzle II, Distract II
Lendericus - Western Adoulin (H-5) Haste II, Flurry II
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-07-08 11:54:19
Also worth noting that Gravity and Distract stack, they are different effects, giving the possibility of ~ -150 Evasion, which is pretty significant. I haven't had a chance to see resist rates on high end stuff, though.
By wormfeeder 2014-07-08 11:56:19
Item-related
New synthesis recipes have been added.
New items have been added.
The following vendors sell new magic scrolls.
Falgima in Selbina (H-9): Flurry
Tya Padolih in Mhaura (G-9): Distract / Frazzle
Mazuro-Oozuro in Tavnazian Safehold (F-9): Distract II / Frazzle II
Ledericus in Western Adoulin (H-5): Haste II / Flurry II
Eukalline in Western Adoulin (H-5): Indi-Haste
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By Cerberus.Spirachub 2014-07-08 11:58:28
Also worth noting that Gravity and Distract stack, they are different effects, giving the possibility of ~ -150 Evasion, which is pretty significant. I haven't had a chance to see resist rates on high end stuff, though.
Sadly nope.
From update notes:
Quote: Targets under the effects of Weight no longer have their physical evasion decreased.
By playzthegame 2014-07-08 11:58:57
The spells are a bit pricey from vendors. Haste 2 flurry 2 are near 400k at vendor in western adoulin, however i see them on the ah for cheaper currently which leads me to believe they are dropping from bcnm's or somewhere else. Anyone know where the new spells are dropping?
By kenshynofshiva 2014-07-08 12:01:03
Also worth noting that Gravity and Distract stack, they are different effects, giving the possibility of ~ -150 Evasion, which is pretty significant. I haven't had a chance to see resist rates on high end stuff, though.
you missed this: Targets under the effects of Weight no longer have their physical evasion decreased.
By Pantafernando 2014-07-08 12:04:20
The spells are a bit pricey from vendors. Haste 2 flurry 2 are near 400k at vendor in western adoulin, however i see them on the ah for cheaper currently which leads me to believe they are dropping from bcnm's or somewhere else. Anyone know where the new spells are dropping?
People have been doing the enhanced drops bcnms from wotg.
They are saying some rdm spells drop there, even marrows.
By Chimerawizard 2014-07-08 12:17:44
People have been doing the enhanced drops bcnms from wotg.
They are saying some rdm spells drop there, even marrows.
Yup, I saw scrolls of meteor, tornado, freeze, Indi-Wilt, Distract 2, and Watera 2 drop from the Campaign Ops: Plucking Wings earlier. As well as a Pil's toille or w/e.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-07-08 12:18:00
Also worth noting that Gravity and Distract stack, they are different effects, giving the possibility of ~ -150 Evasion, which is pretty significant. I haven't had a chance to see resist rates on high end stuff, though.
you missed this: Targets under the effects of Weight no longer have their physical evasion decreased.
I just noticed it in the update notes, bummer.
By pchan 2014-07-08 12:38:37
As expected corsair and whm got replaced for rng+pld setup fight.
Because apparently pld is useful? And people use COR ? I don't think whm/brd is replaced in anyway. COR has always been a garbage job and will drop even further in the job rankings (propably behind pup). RDM is a ***healer and will remain so, their haste is mostly useless because most paries use BRD in the first place with gjallar and ddb raining.
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-07-08 12:40:21
As expected corsair and whm got replaced for rng+pld setup fight.
Because apparently pld is useful? And people use COR ? I don't think whm/brd is replaced in anyway
Yes we use pld on VD dm and Ghesso.
By pchan 2014-07-08 12:42:58
I didn't play for 3 months sorry but I assume those fights still drop garbage.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2014-07-08 12:47:24
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-07-08 12:48:07
I didn't play for 3 months sorry but I assume those fights still drop garbage.
Those drop are still best in slot in a lot of situation for the job that currently matters; and it still good gil for the effort it takes anyway.
By pchan 2014-07-08 12:59:54
let me check
DM : the money items have been divided by 3 since I played including plutons. Except pup/smn ammo nothing worth of interest here, and they drop a lot for 6 man DM.
gessho : complete garbage items. I think I missed why it's worth farming an subtle blow ammo in VD mode using cor and pld.
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By Asura.Failaras 2014-07-08 13:10:17
Man I love when Pchan comments on new stuff!
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-07-08 13:10:51
Cerberus.Spirachub said: »As expected corsair and whm got replaced for rng+pld setup fight.
inc "why brd over cor" debate.
There's no "debate" if ppl doesn't trust spreadsheet numbers lol, it'd just ended up everyone saying their own things.
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-07-08 13:11:23
let me check
DM : the money items have been divided by 3 since I played including plutons. Except pup/smn ammo nothing worth of interest here, and they drop a lot for 6 man DM.
gessho : complete garbage items
Just out of curiousity wich job matters for you?
By pchan 2014-07-08 13:13:43
Why don't you just explain which items are "good". Since after the AA battles they keep releasing gear inferior to super easy content like skirmish or augmentable delve2, which is why everyone quits.
Also I checked yesterday's VU new item lists and there was nothing good either.
By Pantafernando 2014-07-08 13:14:21
Why did you quit?
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By Asura.Ccl 2014-07-08 13:20:24
Why don't you just explain which items are "good". Since after the AA battles they keep releasing gear inferior to super easy content like skirmish or augmentable delve2, which is why everyone quits.
"Answer to a question by a question cause I have no clue what job are usefull now so I'll try to move the discussion"
3/5 earring are best in slot for what they do; so is the rng/sam body.
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By Ragnarok.Drewbles 2014-07-08 13:20:50
Because there has been no relevant content since the games inception! Duh!
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By Ragnarok.Drewbles 2014-07-08 13:23:10
Why don't you just explain which items are "good". Since after the AA battles they keep releasing gear inferior to super easy content like skirmish or augmentable delve2, which is why everyone quits.
"Answer to a question by a question cause I have no clue what job are usefull now so I'll try to move the discussion"
3/5 earring are best in slot for what they do; so is the rng/sam body. Well he is a monk guy, so therefore lithelimb is best in class for hybrid dt/acc and feli mask is best in class tp. Patricious ring solid for hybrid, earrings as you said. Ptica is insane for ninja and works as a decent vs peice for monk if you need accuracy. Metal singer belt is 13 str in a belt slot.
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By Asura.Reichleiu 2014-07-08 13:32:49
I think we will see more updates to jobs like this. some people don't want to lvl jobs just so they can get invites to Mega boss fights or the high tier battle fields. I bet they make all jobs relevant.
My Mythic DRG would like to have a talk with you...
So would every BLU PUP SMN BLM BST WAR DRK in current end-game.
they will never make all jobs relevant, not this current group anyway. Some jobs, BLM DRG PUP BST, are designed extremely poorly. Others, they just don't seem to care about.
or rather an unneeded change for a forsaken job?
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