Seems like Cross Reaper is my best WS post june 17.
Anyone else been messing with WS's non Relic/Mythic?
Post Update DRK
Post Update DRK
ADL is lower content but I did 2 10k insurgencies using Lib back to back. Cata also ranged 5-8k for me last night on apoc.
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how does torcleaver do ?
Haven't tested yet. Been playing around Scourge, Cata and insurgency really. I'm sure someone will post it.
I am interested to know whether Resolution is still the WS of choice for DRK. I use Rag 119 and don't have an Apoc so am only looking for GS choices. Someone please tell me whether Torcleaver is the WS to use now. If so, I can start working on that empyrean. Thanks.
Interested in seeing how the new;
Catastrophe!
STR: 40%, INT: 40%
will work out? Really hoping this will push it into higher end DPS. A Competitive Apoc Drk would make me happy dance. The whole reason I started playing Drk was for my love in Apoc and Dark Magic.
Catastrophe!
STR: 40%, INT: 40%
will work out? Really hoping this will push it into higher end DPS. A Competitive Apoc Drk would make me happy dance. The whole reason I started playing Drk was for my love in Apoc and Dark Magic.
Remind me, what was Catatafish before? AGI and INT?
Otomis said: »
Interested in seeing how the new;
Catastrophe!
STR: 40%, INT: 40%
will work out? Really hoping this will push it into higher end DPS. A Competitive Apoc Drk would make me happy dance. The whole reason I started playing Drk was for my love in Apoc and Dark Magic.
Catastrophe!
STR: 40%, INT: 40%
will work out? Really hoping this will push it into higher end DPS. A Competitive Apoc Drk would make me happy dance. The whole reason I started playing Drk was for my love in Apoc and Dark Magic.
Well won't beat resolution spam. Also Scourge got an even bigger boost, 40 STR VIT to go with its 3.0 fTP and 5% crit bonus. If you love using Scythe on DRK then make a Liberator as its the only DPS competitive Scythe.
From limited eyeballing in about 5 Ra'Kaznar skirmish runs, I found that Scourge was outperforming Resolution most of the time, and it's nice to be able to ride out that aftermath. So take that for what it's worth. Would love to see some concrete testing for both Great sword and Scythe weaponskills.
So Insurgency and Cross Reaper are the new jam for Scythe? I hadn't tried either.
Fudo gets to pull 12k but Quietus is still a joke?
528 delay scythe now gets 146 tp/hit instead of 144, good job on that one SE.
Whole update was pretty much a Ragnarok-only buff. DRK is dead to me.
Fudo gets to pull 12k but Quietus is still a joke?
528 delay scythe now gets 146 tp/hit instead of 144, good job on that one SE.
Whole update was pretty much a Ragnarok-only buff. DRK is dead to me.
I have to check other GS WS at some time. Seems VIT is now the "goto" stat for GS. Thankfully I had already decided on VIT being my 3rd merit stat next to STR/DEX
Torcleaver for me messing around on mandies outside adoulin were like 3k to 5k 1000tp 9k 3000tp last resort and hasso on. Reso seemed a bit better but I am hoping to test more with better buffs on.
Yeah, Quietus only got up to about 4k for me, which is maybe 300 more than it does at base TP. What happened to the whole 'Get DRK using scythe again' stuff? What the *** is this five-digit Fudo nonsense?
Did they just completely forget the weapon exists while buffing everything else? Every other weapon saw an increase in tp/hit, not just one-handers but including Ragnarok, but Scythe got a piddly 0.2, like they have no understanding why the TP Peak was there to begin with.
"DRK isn't emo enough, let's buff everything but Scythe!"
Did they just completely forget the weapon exists while buffing everything else? Every other weapon saw an increase in tp/hit, not just one-handers but including Ragnarok, but Scythe got a piddly 0.2, like they have no understanding why the TP Peak was there to begin with.
"DRK isn't emo enough, let's buff everything but Scythe!"
Quote:
"DRK isn't emo enough, let's buff everything but Scythe!"
Thought FFXI was dead to you already?
Anyhow the TP buff was for low delay weapons mostly and got progressively smaller the higher delay you went. The weapons with the highest delay saw the smallest increase. So it just happens that Scythe received the smallest increase, right next to Great Axe. Liberator is still the king of the kill so Scythe is still DRK's strongest weapon. Your Apoc (which is what your really crying about) hasn't been a DPS weapon since Abyssea? Why on earth would you expect that to change now?
Lakshmi.Saevel said: »
Quote:
"DRK isn't emo enough, let's buff everything but Scythe!"
Thought FFXI was dead to you already?
Anyhow the TP buff was for low delay weapons mostly and got progressively smaller the higher delay you went. The weapons with the highest delay saw the smallest increase. So it just happens that Scythe received the smallest increase, right next to Great Axe. Liberator is still the king of the kill so Scythe is still DRK's strongest weapon. Your Apoc (which is what your really crying about) hasn't been a DPS weapon since Abyssea? Why on earth would you expect that to change now?
Apoc is nice, but Torncleaver rocks with Rag or another great great sword. Since update.
I need further testing (my only relevant parse is 2 hours on lvl 126 mobs so far) but Scourge's boost may put it even with torcleaver.
I'm pissed about scythe as well. I'm sitting on around 11k alex and I may just give up and make a koga :(
i'm so salty atm
I'm pissed about scythe as well. I'm sitting on around 11k alex and I may just give up and make a koga :(
i'm so salty atm
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wonder how a ilvl 119 caladbolg would do now =S
I messed around with a few of the scythe weapon skills, and I will share what I found. Its all eyeballing so take it with a grain of salt.
I used a apoc, and the bunnies in Marjami.
Guillotine > It did about high 3ks never quite breaking 4k even at 3000tp.
Spiral Hell > About 4k at 1000 tp and 6k at 3000 tp.
Catastrophe > 4.3k to 5k 1000 tp > 3000tp.
Quietus > 3.9k at 1000 tp and 4.1k at 3000tp. It's sad that it still sucks =/.
Entropy 5/5 > Close to 5k at 1000 tp almost 9k (8.7k) at 3000 tp. At 3000 tp it one shoted the bunnies, it could maybe hit 10k at 3000 tp?
Reso was doing 5kish at 1000tp and 10k to 12k at 3000 tp on Kaggen. It also one shoted the bunnies. Used the GK gs. I would to love to see how well scourge does since I am doing my Ragnarok trials atm.
I used a apoc, and the bunnies in Marjami.
Guillotine > It did about high 3ks never quite breaking 4k even at 3000tp.
Spiral Hell > About 4k at 1000 tp and 6k at 3000 tp.
Catastrophe > 4.3k to 5k 1000 tp > 3000tp.
Quietus > 3.9k at 1000 tp and 4.1k at 3000tp. It's sad that it still sucks =/.
Entropy 5/5 > Close to 5k at 1000 tp almost 9k (8.7k) at 3000 tp. At 3000 tp it one shoted the bunnies, it could maybe hit 10k at 3000 tp?
Reso was doing 5kish at 1000tp and 10k to 12k at 3000 tp on Kaggen. It also one shoted the bunnies. Used the GK gs. I would to love to see how well scourge does since I am doing my Ragnarok trials atm.
volkom said: »
wonder how a ilvl 119 caladbolg would do now =S
Empyrean Weaponskills get the same hidden damage upgrades when used with the Empyrean Weapon that Relic-Mythic do on their respective weapons right? (Trial -> iLVL etc)
Might give you a reasonable ballpark if that's true.
I think the biggest question is: how does Shadow of Death do?!
So I see some people say Torcleaver is great now, but is it better then Reso?
Would it be worth getting Torcleaver at all? I was using Reso last night and it was pretty sweet.
Would it be worth getting Torcleaver at all? I was using Reso last night and it was pretty sweet.
Ugh ... bump, so hard to find an answer to this question.
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
So I see some people say Torcleaver is great now, but is it better then Reso?
Would it be worth getting Torcleaver at all? I was using Reso last night and it was pretty sweet.
Would it be worth getting Torcleaver at all? I was using Reso last night and it was pretty sweet.
On a more serious note, it's definitely worth it. I like having different WS's with different skill chain properties, and from my eyeballing, Tor still outperformed Scourge (just my eyeballing, needs proper testing really). You can SC for light with MNKs spamming VS or even double light off a regular light. It's true that Scourge can do the same thing as well, with the added bonus of getting the AM, so it'll be the better option, but someone needs to confirm that scourge is better.
Edit: and with the decreased resistance to skill chain damage, skill chaining might be a reasonable method of playing (its fun too!)
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Thanks Zeig, I just wanted to know so I could start farming items for Caladbolg.
If I had to guess, you would idealy want to start a big fight with a 300 tp scourge then spam Torcleaver, but Reso was boosted quite well too, but if Torcleaver can do very similar numbers then I can demerit Reso.
Ninja Edit: Skillchains have always been fun, even in the Magic Burst days :) I am praying that Reso is just a weapon skill for those DRKs new to high level, because farming the items for Torcleaver is much more time consuming and should be rewarded.
If I had to guess, you would idealy want to start a big fight with a 300 tp scourge then spam Torcleaver, but Reso was boosted quite well too, but if Torcleaver can do very similar numbers then I can demerit Reso.
Ninja Edit: Skillchains have always been fun, even in the Magic Burst days :) I am praying that Reso is just a weapon skill for those DRKs new to high level, because farming the items for Torcleaver is much more time consuming and should be rewarded.
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Sylph.Safiyyah said: »
Well that's silly! I thought they earned the right after the 1500HMP and 60Rift<item> stages.
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