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 Leviathan.Draylo
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2014-06-01 15:03:06
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Ragnarok.Afania said: »
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The game is still the same really. I have been playing a very long time and it's still the same game to me. Unless you are talking about NM camping specifically, what is it that isn't the same?


Before: You toss gear every 1~3 years.

Now: You toss gear every 1~3 months.

So different ;x

The game still plays the same though, what is the issue with tossing older gear? I still use gear I got like years ago like Enif legs, Brutal earring, supa, Loquacious earring, etc. Did you wanna still be using the exact same gear all these years later? What is the point lol.
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By Cerberus.Balloon 2014-06-01 15:20:34
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »

The game is still the same really. I have been playing a very long time and it's still the same game to me. Unless you are talking about NM camping specifically, what is it that isn't the same?


Before: You toss gear every 1~3 years.

Now: You toss gear every 1~3 months.

So different ;x

The game still plays the same though, what is the issue with tossing older gear? I still use gear I got like years ago like Enif legs, Brutal earring, supa, Loquacious earring, etc. Did you wanna still be using the exact same gear all these years later? What is the point lol.

I have to agree with that. The days where everyone wore a Hauby/W.Turban weren't fun. The days when new gear would come out and we'd all collectively shrug at it because it was marginally worse than what we currently wore was terrible.

There was a long time where they just weren't releasing gear that beat the top choices at the time.

That being said if they ever want to reuse the Loki's Kaftan model I'd be a-okay with that. I guess that's where Cosmetic gear comes in.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-01 15:28:54
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Cerberus.Balloon said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Leviathan.Draylo said: »

The game is still the same really. I have been playing a very long time and it's still the same game to me. Unless you are talking about NM camping specifically, what is it that isn't the same?


Before: You toss gear every 1~3 years.

Now: You toss gear every 1~3 months.

So different ;x

The game still plays the same though, what is the issue with tossing older gear? I still use gear I got like years ago like Enif legs, Brutal earring, supa, Loquacious earring, etc. Did you wanna still be using the exact same gear all these years later? What is the point lol.

I have to agree with that. The days where everyone wore a Hauby/W.Turban weren't fun. The days when new gear would come out and we'd all collectively shrug at it because it was marginally worse than what we currently wore was terrible.

There was a long time where they just weren't releasing gear that beat the top choices at the time. That time was terrible.

That being said if they ever want to reuse the Loki's Kaftan model I'd be a-okay with that. I guess that's where Cosmetic gear comes in.

I'm not saying you should wear 1 gear for 10 years, but I think it's reasonable to expect your raid gear to last 1 year, not 1 month.

There are a couple of pieces I had, which cost 3M to make, I also spent time and farmed other stuff to make it, and it died next month.

Inb4 3M isn't a lot of money, gil is gil.


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The game still plays the same though, what is the issue with tossing older gear? I still use gear I got like years ago like Enif legs, Brutal earring, supa, Loquacious earring, etc. Did you wanna still be using the exact same gear all these years later? What is the point lol.


I don't have an issue tossing brutal/suppa/loq, but I have an issue storing reforge 119 1 month after I got them.
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By Asura.Dakenx 2014-06-01 15:50:23
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too big to quote but @ Afania.

What job are you storing Relic 119 for? Most relic 119s are useful for the augments on them if nothing else. Just interested in what job had absolutely no situational use for its relic 119s? I see on your profile you have Death Penalty. I would assume you don't mean you stored your useful relic 119 COR armor.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2014-06-01 15:59:00
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3m is nothing man and pretty much all of the Reforged Relic is still useful. The AF reforged is still useful too for most jobs depending on which set you need it for.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-01 16:06:52
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Asura.Dakenx said: »
too big to quote but @ Afania.

What job are you storing Relic 119 for? Most relic 119s are useful for the augments on them if nothing else. Just interested in what job had absolutely no situational use for its relic 119s? I see on your profile you have Death Penalty. I would assume you don't mean you stored your useful relic 119 COR armor.

I said reforge 119, so it can mean AF but not relic.

So far I only use AF119 body actively. I really, really, rarely need to use head/hands/feet when I need macc. It's so rare that I don't think it's worth 3M and all the paper grind. Originally I made head/feet for /ra but then Umbani/vanir replaced it.

I can't really think of much reason to use legs unless I'm doing WF enmity- set too, which is completely unnecessary. Bayld gear replaced it too.

Leviathan.Draylo said: »
3m is nothing man and pretty much all of the Reforged Relic is still useful. The AF reforged is still useful too for most jobs depending on which set you need it for.

It's only nothing if the gear is good, it's something if you just toss it in the garbage can. If you really think 3M is nothing just toss 3Mx4 = 12M yourself see how you feel! Not everyone like to waste time/gil like that.


Asura.Dakenx said: »
too big to quote but @ Afania.

What job are you storing Relic 119 for? Most relic 119s are useful for the augments on them if nothing else. Just interested in what job had absolutely no situational use for its relic 119s? I see on your profile you have Death Penalty. I would assume you don't mean you stored your useful relic 119 COR armor.


The point is that, originally when I grind certain gear I grind it for other use, not "situational use". And honestly what's so unreasonable to expect the highest tier raid gear last a bit longer than 1~3 months?
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2014-06-01 16:08:14
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Hey guys, is it worth coming back to Pacman?? I used to play it back in the days, but I wonder if it's changed much.
Because Pacman is totally the kind of game that needs renovated content and other people to play with.

Ded gaem.

Even Street Fighter II has more players within Japan alone than FFXI does worldwide. I'm nice, I picked a multiplayer game that is only alive because of a ranking system that makes it like a literal MMO in Japan.
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By Bismarck.Vurant 2014-06-01 16:09:51
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
I enjoy playing the windower ffxi metagame at the moment, and that is an option that was much less accessible in the past.

Shiva.Siral said: »
FFXI is great IF you can find people to do stuff with. Are servers less populated? Yes. But to do the majority of content you need 6 or less people. If you can find some people with your playtime and want to do content it can be extremely fun.

Just spend the $13 reactivate and try it out. See if you can find a shell/friends to do content with. You'll know by the end of the month whether you like it or not.

These posts pretty sum it up i think!

Checking your profile you have done a great deal of things already, so you could easily give it a go and catch up current content while seeing if you like the game still!
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-06-01 16:47:04
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I tell a games worth by movie ticket prices.

1 Movie Ticket = $7.00
Movie average time = 2 hours

Equation used to figure out game value:
(Time Played/Average Movie time)x Movie Ticket Cost - Cost of game.


Some Examples:
Dark Souls II -
Game Price: 59.99
Time Played: 180 hours

(180/2)x7 - 59.99 = $570.01

Borderlands 2 -
Game Price: 59.99 (when I bought it)
DLC Total Price: 19.99 + 9.99x5 + 4.99 = 74.93
Time Played: 319 hours

(319/2)x7 - 59.99 - 74.93 = $981.58
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-06-01 17:00:23
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eslim said: »
my combined characters have like 36,000 hours of playtime, so that's $126,000 lol.. can i get a refund?

FFXI over a long period of time is kinda hard to do. Since a lot of people bazaar which messes up play time by deluding it with afk time. Best measure for an MMO with these types of mechanics is shoot for non-afk time enjoyed per month. So pretty much if you play and enjoy at least 5/6 hours a month you are making an entertainment profit any less then that and the games value starts to decline.
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By Jogi 2014-06-01 17:06:56
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Come back and form your own opinion.
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2014-06-01 17:20:43
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Kinda' echoing/extrapolating upon what Byrth said, but I think the game itself is just as fun as it has always been, and the playability given to us by the Windower team and other unofficial developers has never been stronger. It could certainly use a great deal more bodies, though- all the more reason to return.
 
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2014-06-01 17:37:15
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you can get movies from red box for $1.20 and watch them more than once, that's a horrible basis for comparison
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-06-01 17:54:43
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
you can get movies from red box for $1.20 and watch them more than once, that's a horrible basis for comparison

That was just my opinion. Since normally I try to figure out if the game was worth it is near release so I compare it to seeing a movie as if it was also just released. It's really up to the buyer how they choose something is worth the money I was just giving an example with how I figure out a games worth.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Windowpane 2014-06-01 18:30:37
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How is it if you have no character anymore? If I started from scratch? How is the grind and stuff? It almost intrigues me to give it a go, just to play in the barren wasteland that I once loved. I have tried Star Wars, ESO, FFXIV (about to give this a second chance) and none of these have done it for me.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Valli 2014-06-01 18:47:41
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
you can get movies from red box for $1.20 and watch them more than once, that's a horrible basis for comparison

Pirate them all from (various) websites for free also....
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By Quetzalcoatl.Zubis 2014-06-01 18:48:42
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Honestly it's dependent on your server.

Quez is a horrible server. It's dead in GMT and on life support in NA, and my advice is to get off it.

I honestly thought FFXI was dead until I moved off Quez.
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By fonewear 2014-06-01 18:59:20
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
eslim said: »
is this rl?
Or just fantasy?

Caught in a landslide. No escape from reality. Open your eyes. Look up to the skies and see
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By Leviathan.Xsoahc 2014-06-01 19:01:39
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How is it if you have no character anymore? If I started from scratch? How is the grind and stuff? It almost intrigues me to give it a go, just to play in the barren wasteland that I once loved. I have tried Star Wars, ESO, FFXIV (about to give this a second chance) and none of these have done it for me.
Great from scratch so far. You can get NPCs to party with and no loss of exp. I've been playing for about a week now and just hit 50 this morning. Doing quests now. It's rather fun to enjoy the basic stuff without having to bash enter on cut scenes all the time.

Already got to rank 3, some op warps as I pass the areas, etc. It's very fun imo.
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By fonewear 2014-06-01 19:02:29
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If I've learned anything is that. Song lyrics are everywhere if you look.

And FFXI is not dead it was never "alive"

Freddie Mercury played FFXI so it is probably a good idea.
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By Derfthegalka 2014-06-01 19:20:26
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yo aint dang deead BRODERSS!!!!!!! ti goold OLD DERF needsums to bufff mah dang ole monk YO!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Stik 2014-06-01 19:28:01
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By Sieha1 2014-06-01 19:33:45
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I think we need a giant sign on the front page.

"Come back if you want to and stop asking us"

if you see a person eating a hamburger and you say, hey I remember eating one of those before. is it still good? Of course the guy will say yes otherwise he wouldnt be eating it.

I really think that all these, should I come back, threads are just admins and mods using old unused accounts to generate topics!
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By Cerberus.Halticus 2014-06-01 19:50:33
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Or we could just make it where if a thread like this is made , the website response "Warning, you are in violation of Code 32 Article 32.25678: Banable Offense ... Are you sure you would like to proceed"? and scare the absolute ***out of them.
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By Fenrir.Camiie 2014-06-01 19:57:02
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I really don't see the harm in asking about the state of the game before joining/rejoining. It's actually pretty smart. The fact that this sort of topic annoys the community says more about us than it does the person asking the question.
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By Cerberus.Halticus 2014-06-01 19:59:53
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Its annoying because its 2-4 per day ... everyday
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By Cerberus.Halticus 2014-06-01 20:01:50
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If i spammed Jponry in /yell in your jeuno, chances are you would GM me. Expect to get flamed
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By Cerberus.Halticus 2014-06-01 20:08:57
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Leviathan.Xsoahc said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Windowpane said: »
How is it if you have no character anymore? If I started from scratch? How is the grind and stuff? It almost intrigues me to give it a go, just to play in the barren wasteland that I once loved. I have tried Star Wars, ESO, FFXIV (about to give this a second chance) and none of these have done it for me.
Great from scratch so far. You can get NPCs to party with and no loss of exp. I've been playing for about a week now and just hit 50 this morning. Doing quests now. It's rather fun to enjoy the basic stuff without having to bash enter on cut scenes all the time.

Already got to rank 3, some op warps as I pass the areas, etc. It's very fun imo.
Sooo, how's those conversations with those npc's goin?
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