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 Asura.Jezzus
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By Asura.Jezzus 2014-06-04 20:00:38
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^mod delete haha. QQ some more when you know im right
By fractalvoid 2014-06-04 20:09:14
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Asura.Hashtag said: »
im building the crossbow and there's nothing you can do to stop me tbh

gastra would at least be fun to mess around with and see if you could possibly make it compete. not that i really think it could (though I haven't played in like half a year) but the barrage accuracy would actually be beneficial now that we get so many shots. there's also more snapshot gear now so maybe it could be like super repeating crossbow or something. idk...

also the lack of a good ws kinda kills it lol and regardless it wouldn't be the "best" ... just so no one gets confused and all srsbsns with me... could just be not as useless as it once was... though this is doubtful.

i love rng tho so im biased anyway.

edit: im not sure there's an answer for "best" unless you give a specific situation... tho again i havent played in forever
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By Carbuncle.Xenhas 2014-06-04 20:19:38
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fractalvoid said: »
the barrage accuracy would actually be beneficial now that we get so many shots

relic barrage procs...
By fractalvoid 2014-06-04 20:25:35
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Carbuncle.Xenhas said: »
fractalvoid said: »
the barrage accuracy would actually be beneficial now that we get so many shots

relic barrage procs...

true.

dps could possibly even out (if you didnt die w/o a way to shed enmity like relics) if you managed to get a fast enough snapshot set... but i doubt it.

i dont think it would actually compare and be even close to worthwhile to make if one was making a mythic solely for the utility and not the novelty or something.

fun speculation tho and gives me reason to want to make one.

or i could just go on test server but what fun is that
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By Asura.Natenn 2014-06-04 22:02:33
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Asura.Jezzus said: »
Asura.Felgarr said: »
I'll be the first person to tell you that this game is all about perception, but I do believe you are comparing apples and oranges, with your poor weapon analogy. I also believe the most popular mythics list underscores the "best" mythic. Why? I personally define "best" as the "best" relative augment for its job.

I'm sorry Felgarr but I am going to have to disagree with you on this. Kind of the attitude as too why I disagree with most from Asura"Legends" and that's because this is a video game. A form of entertainment. It is fine if you want to treat FFXI as your career and that is your way of entertainment... But if someone likes RDM and wants a Murg, hell they should make that thing and enjoy it! They shouldn't let a bunch of snobs tell them its not as relevant as Yag or w.e.

People should have this attitude...

Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Now I am making Laev. Given BLM's irrelevance in current content and SCH's kind of all-around superiority, I doubt this mythic will be useful for my friends or myself....but I started as a black mage and played the job for years, dammit!

Anyways in the end I think if someone is asking the question of this thread then they want the kind of answer you are giving them Felgarr.

Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
You are the typical kind of player that cannot help but follow the masses in doing what they do the best: mistakes.

"Everyone is using Hauteclaire or at least want it, why on earth am I using Joyeuse and spamming Atonnement?" This is the kind of logic you're serving.

And then people wonder how in one sentence you can determine if a player is bad or not.

So true.
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By Asura.Hashtag 2014-06-04 22:16:35
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Asura.Natenn said: »
Asura.Jezzus said: »
Asura.Felgarr said: »
I'll be the first person to tell you that this game is all about perception, but I do believe you are comparing apples and oranges, with your poor weapon analogy. I also believe the most popular mythics list underscores the "best" mythic. Why? I personally define "best" as the "best" relative augment for its job.

I'm sorry Felgarr but I am going to have to disagree with you on this. Kind of the attitude as too why I disagree with most from Asura"Legends" and that's because this is a video game. A form of entertainment. It is fine if you want to treat FFXI as your career and that is your way of entertainment... But if someone likes RDM and wants a Murg, hell they should make that thing and enjoy it! They shouldn't let a bunch of snobs tell them its not as relevant as Yag or w.e.

People should have this attitude...

Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Now I am making Laev. Given BLM's irrelevance in current content and SCH's kind of all-around superiority, I doubt this mythic will be useful for my friends or myself....but I started as a black mage and played the job for years, dammit!

Anyways in the end I think if someone is asking the question of this thread then they want the kind of answer you are giving them Felgarr.

Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
You are the typical kind of player that cannot help but follow the masses in doing what they do the best: mistakes.

"Everyone is using Hauteclaire or at least want it, why on earth am I using Joyeuse and spamming Atonnement?" This is the kind of logic you're serving.

And then people wonder how in one sentence you can determine if a player is bad or not.

So true.

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By Asura.Natenn 2014-06-04 22:22:02
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well i am a hero afterall
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By Asura.Hashtag 2014-06-05 00:05:13
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Asura.Natenn said: »
well i am a hero afterall
same here man
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By Sylph.Limlight 2014-06-05 01:53:42
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i'm honestly a bit surprised to hear that conq war has fallen off the turnip truck that much. Koga sam just crushes it now?
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By Asura.Jezzus 2014-06-05 06:36:26
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Yes.. Full retard.. cause you know exactly what I was talking about... Here is the relevance to AsuraLegends.

About 6 or so months ago when I was in AL and I told them I wanted to make a a mythic rdm and that mythics should be a personal pursuit, I got ***stormed by Jay and a few others over how stupid I was and that I should make a yag if I was going to make a mage mythic. Meanwhile a bunch of others in the LS were all LOLfacing over the total douche treatment that took place. Never mind all the other BS I'm not going to get into. But put it this way, Marila felt obligated to make contact with me over skype to warn me about them, and with out directly saying it, really leaned towards trying to tell me they were conspiring against me for their amusement. That friends I had from AL for some time before joining were not really my friends. And the way Marila was acting towards me for awhile really just made me question her intentions as well.

I take offense to you calling me HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. I have a mental illness. But I am not intellectually challenged, nor even autistic. Though I do have a hard time with people, mainly due to how insensitive they can be(especially on the internet). A lot of people in FFXI who I've told about my illness have used it against me somehow. Some of which are in AsuraLegends (like the supposed friends).

These are some of the kind of people who are in AL... These are the kind of people on this game. Its screwed up, but the internet is screwed up. Give people freedom with anonymity and they will turn into demons... Shine light on it and they will just deny and lie because they know they can get away with it.

..and honestly sorry Marila for being an ***, i was just annoyed you didn't recognize what I was talking about. I went out of line on my second reply in this thread. Also there is a handful of people I DO respect in AL. Such as Felgarr.

Yeah Natenn, I'm just a retard...

Sorry for the derailment
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By Carbuncle.Sambb 2014-06-05 06:48:38
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Easy now we don't want a player warning thread now do we.

Short answer make your rdm mythic. If that's what you want, there will always me views as to its usefulness. Does it give perks to the job? Yeah I guess it does. Do I think its a stupid mythic to make given rdms position in the game and the actual buffs the weapon gives? Yes yes I think its very stupid, however I'm not making it you are so it doesn't bother me.
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By Asura.Jezzus 2014-06-05 07:00:31
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lol well at the time I just seriously wanted it for the novelty of it. Now that I play BRD a lot I will most likely make a Carn if I ever get around to making a mythic.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2014-06-05 07:05:42
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Asura.Jezzus said: »
Yes.. Full retard.. cause you know exactly what I was talking about... Here is the relevance to AsuraLegends.

About 6 or so months ago when I was in AL and I told them I wanted to make a a mythic rdm and that mythics should be a personal pursuit, I got ***stormed by Jay and a few others over how stupid I was and that I should make a yag if I was going to make a mage mythic. Meanwhile a bunch of others in the LS were all LOLfacing over the total douche treatment that took place. Never mind all the other BS I'm not going to get into. But put it this way, Marila felt obligated to make contact with me over skype to warn me about them, and with out directly saying it, really leaned towards trying to tell me they were conspiring against me for their amusement. That friends I had from AL for some time before joining were not really my friends. And the way Marila was acting towards me for awhile really just made me question her intentions as well.

I take offense to you calling me HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. I have a mental illness. But I am not intellectually challenged, nor even autistic. Though I do have a hard time with people, mainly due to how insensitive they can be(especially on the internet). A lot of people in FFXI who I've told about my illness have used it against me somehow. Some of which are in AsuraLegends (like the supposed friends).

These are some of the kind of people who are in AL... These are the kind of people on this game. Its screwed up, but the internet is screwed up. Give people freedom with anonymity and they will turn into demons... Shine light on it and they will just deny and lie because they know they can get away with it.

..and honestly sorry Marila for being an ***, i was just annoyed you didn't recognize what I was talking about. I went out of line on my second reply in this thread. Also there is a handful of people I DO respect in AL. Such as Felgarr.

Yeah Natenn, I'm just a retard...

Sorry for the derailment


Why do you care about other ppl's opinion about your decision, it's not like your decision in a video games holds responsibility for anything. There's no way your decision can please everyone and receive positive opinion from everyone. When I made my Mythic ppl gave me ***storm all over because it's not OP mythic. Then when I said I wanted a Yagrush because Yagrush is OP more ppl gave me ***storm cuz I'm not supposed to "regret" or else I'd be wasting other ppl's time and effort. No matter what you do you can't make everyone happy. So why do you care?
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By Asura.Jezzus 2014-06-05 07:14:30
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Well if I really cared I would of brought this out awhile ago. I just made mention that AL had a similar opinion to Felgarr. Then I ticked off Marila and she obviously scream and yelled to everyone she knows cause I got harassed by a bunch of clowns yesterday (which is funny cause after when I went to confront her she instantly told me not to harass her and said she was blisting me lol). So I just spoke for the record what I clearly wasnt gonna lay out in tells to a bunch of biase friends of hers.

edit: also tells from al members/friends of al
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-05 07:18:48
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Sylph.Limlight said: »
i'm honestly a bit surprised to hear that conq war has fallen off the turnip truck that much. Koga sam just crushes it now?
There aren't many good WARs out there anyway.

If you gear right, a WAR can outdamage SAMs pretty easily. A Conqueror WAR will outdamage a Kogarasumaru SAM just as easily.

Then again, a Kogarasumaru SAM will outdamage a Conqueror WAR just as easily too. It just depends on the players and how they gear.
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By Creaucent Alazrin 2014-06-05 07:35:41
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Asura.Natenn said: »
Asura.Jezzus said: »
Asura.Felgarr said: »
I'll be the first person to tell you that this game is all about perception, but I do believe you are comparing apples and oranges, with your poor weapon analogy. I also believe the most popular mythics list underscores the "best" mythic. Why? I personally define "best" as the "best" relative augment for its job.

I'm sorry Felgarr but I am going to have to disagree with you on this. Kind of the attitude as too why I disagree with most from Asura"Legends" and that's because this is a video game. A form of entertainment. It is fine if you want to treat FFXI as your career and that is your way of entertainment... But if someone likes RDM and wants a Murg, hell they should make that thing and enjoy it! They shouldn't let a bunch of snobs tell them its not as relevant as Yag or w.e.

People should have this attitude...

Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Now I am making Laev. Given BLM's irrelevance in current content and SCH's kind of all-around superiority, I doubt this mythic will be useful for my friends or myself....but I started as a black mage and played the job for years, dammit!

Anyways in the end I think if someone is asking the question of this thread then they want the kind of answer you are giving them Felgarr.

Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
You are the typical kind of player that cannot help but follow the masses in doing what they do the best: mistakes.

"Everyone is using Hauteclaire or at least want it, why on earth am I using Joyeuse and spamming Atonnement?" This is the kind of logic you're serving.

And then people wonder how in one sentence you can determine if a player is bad or not.

So true.

I agree that a mythic should be made for the job you like the most not to suit a bunch of knuckle draggers in some easily expenable LS. LSes that actually demand their players to make, lets go with Yagrush here, a certain mythic obviously needs to check its players skill. SE made all this content winnable with "normal" gear so if you absolutely need Yagrush whm so you can Na the alli then thats because the other whms, brds and cors are incompetent.

From what ive seen posted the only people that are "full HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE" are the other members in this lolls.
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By Creaucent Alazrin 2014-06-05 07:37:44
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Asura.Natenn said: »
well i am a knuckle dragger afterall

Ftfy
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2014-06-05 07:40:16
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Sylph.Limlight said: »
i'm honestly a bit surprised to hear that conq war has fallen off the turnip truck that much. Koga sam just crushes it now?
There aren't many good WARs out there anyway.

If you gear right, a WAR can outdamage SAMs pretty easily. A Conqueror WAR will outdamage a Kogarasumaru SAM just as easily.

Then again, a Kogarasumaru SAM will outdamage a Conqueror WAR just as easily too. It just depends on the players and how they gear.
^ This post makes no sense. One of the two weapon/job combinations is objectively better. The fact that there's a range of player skill levels is irrelevant.

Also, look at this post by someone who has both weapons that actually answers Limlight's question:
Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Also, though it's true that Conqueror is a huge DPS boost for WAR, last time I looked at it WAR was not a very competitive DD without Conqueror. The job is slowly turning into Dragoon.

Sad, but very true at the moment. The only situation it has a chance to win is in high buff fights that last less than 3min, where the majority of your DPS is from SP1+2 and other DDs don't have a chance to catch up. Other than that, it falls behind really fast on anything else/doesn't have any weapon type gimmicks like SAM+MNK.
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By Asura.Jezzus 2014-06-05 07:41:02
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Creaucent Alazrin said: »
From what ive seen posted the only people that are "full HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE" are the other members in this lolls.

yeah every time i read the below thread for a laugh i think of them.

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/34981/ttof-seriously-a-serious-linkshell-guys/
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-06-05 07:45:01
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Sylph.Limlight said: »
i'm honestly a bit surprised to hear that conq war has fallen off the turnip truck that much. Koga sam just crushes it now?
There aren't many good WARs out there anyway.

If you gear right, a WAR can outdamage SAMs pretty easily. A Conqueror WAR will outdamage a Kogarasumaru SAM just as easily.

Then again, a Kogarasumaru SAM will outdamage a Conqueror WAR just as easily too. It just depends on the players and how they gear.
^ This post makes no sense. One of the two weapon/job combinations is objectively better. The fact that there's a range of player skill levels is irrelevant.

Also, look at this post by someone who has both weapons that actually answers Limlight's question:
Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Also, though it's true that Conqueror is a huge DPS boost for WAR, last time I looked at it WAR was not a very competitive DD without Conqueror. The job is slowly turning into Dragoon.

Sad, but very true at the moment. The only situation it has a chance to win is in high buff fights that last less than 3min, where the majority of your DPS is from SP1+2 and other DDs don't have a chance to catch up. Other than that, it falls behind really fast on anything else/doesn't have any weapon type gimmicks like SAM+MNK.
What, you think that a player has no basis on how they perform on a specific job?

What does that make you then, a robot?

You are assuming that the best WAR in the game vs. the best SAM in the game, when faced next to each other, would have the SAM beating the WAR.

You forget that not everyone can be the "best" and that WAR can still outperform SAM given the players who are playing those jobs/characters.

You are limiting potential because you want to only deal with extremes. Even the "best" of a job can make mistakes, or still have other random factors from keeping them at being the "best" at a specific fight or whatnot. That is why it is ludicrous to even try to define what is "best" and who is the "best" job and what is the "best" mythic.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2014-06-05 07:52:46
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Your quoted post:
Sylph.Limlight said: »
i'm honestly a bit surprised to hear that conq war has fallen off the turnip truck that much. Koga sam just crushes it now?

This post is not asking, "What weapon does the best SAM or WAR Mythic player on my server happen to use?" or "Is it possible for a Mythic WAR to be superior to a Mythic SAM?" It's asking, "Holding player constant, what is better?"


That's like if someone asks you whether men are taller than women and you reply with, "Well, it depends on the person." Bzzt. Your attempts to not offend anyone have resulted in a meaningless answer. The answer was "men." If people aren't asking about a specific person, then they're asking about the average.
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By Pantafernando 2014-06-05 08:04:44
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Asura never cease to amaze me!

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By Asura.Echandra 2014-06-05 10:06:45
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I don't have Conqueror for my War b/c I would die all the time C R U S H I N G everyone on DPS, even the whm couldn't keep up. It would hopefully make up for the fact that my War is horrible.

The weapon does help, but if you aren't building up anything else...cheers? I see a fair amount of these supposedly mighty wielders of the end all mythics/relic/emp gears just being glass cannons. On the mage end, sweet! you've got a yagg you can AoE remove stats...but you're still slow at removing them? Wait why are you full timing yag... Or bards thinking just because they have a M dagger, 3-4 song / ghorn whatever thinking that is enough and the rest of the gear doesn't matter.

I'm not surprised by the Asura here. Bored? Nothing to do...go gang up on people in game and trolllololol. Gotta be with the in crowd and always defend your friends!

Since people can't separate items from a sign of status in game, I'm going to say that unless you have multiple mythics and afterglows...oh wait never mind. Make whatever you want!
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By Asura.Japano 2014-06-05 11:06:35
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Ya mythic's are pretty nice regardless who ever has them. i would like to make a burtgang just being paladin that would be a very nice achievement on my part to do such a thing.

I dont post much but i mean Jezzus really its been more then a day. you apologize which is nice but then you go and open your mouth to keep on pushing the issue for something that really has nothing to do with the topic. as much as i wanna hear about your real life problems about being HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE or some form of mental illness that clearly puts you up on the intelligent path from your point of view.

still wtf does any of this has to do with "mythic weapon's"?
Stop trying to be the victim here all you do is speak of other people trying to bully you in a way but you dont really post much about the responses you like to give people when you feel they arent much to your standards on the game.... I mean if you cant make up your mind whether you hate AsuraLegends or dont i mean really all i have to say is good luck...

Also I mean you wanna cry about your you know issues you know the kitchen is that way ------> and well you know where the knife's are.. >.> so save your crying for you know when you wanna hug your mother from your basement or such things as hugging that shrine to marila you have in your sister's closet..
yes this is the real Jezzus!!! Dont let the Victim fool you guys really...
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By Creaucent Alazrin 2014-06-05 11:41:17
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Lol you make a profile just to come on here to bash someone else asura must be the shortbus server. Anyway you are telling him to stop mouthing off yet you are doing the exact same thing.... btw its knives not knife's since knives cant own anything.

This thread needs 100% more Liberator which is a spear in XIV lol.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-05 11:50:35
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Creaucent Alazrin said: »
Lol you make a profile just to come on here to bash someone else asura must be the shortbus server. Anyway you are telling him to stop mouthing off yet you are doing the exact same thing.... btw its knives not knife's since knives cant own anything.

This thread needs 100% more Liberator which is a spear in XIV lol.
Well actually, technically a knife can own a sheath.
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By Asura.Japano 2014-06-05 11:50:39
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Didnt make had >.> and the last time i checked it still has to do with a personal thing. i do bash on him cause he wants to play victim but doesnt really mention the time's he has done stuff that i mean was pretty messed up cause he felt other's were not worthy of sorts. thanks for the correction learn something new every day.
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2014-06-05 11:54:27
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Your quoted post:
Sylph.Limlight said: »
i'm honestly a bit surprised to hear that conq war has fallen off the turnip truck that much. Koga sam just crushes it now?

This post is not asking, "What weapon does the best SAM or WAR Mythic player on my server happen to use?" or "Is it possible for a Mythic WAR to be superior to a Mythic SAM?" It's asking, "Holding player constant, what is better?"


That's like if someone asks you whether men are taller than women and you reply with, "Well, it depends on the person." Bzzt. Your attempts to not offend anyone have resulted in a meaningless answer. The answer was "men." If people aren't asking about a specific person, then they're asking about the average.

Objectivity, the hardest of concepts.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-05 12:24:12
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Well actually, technically a knife can own a sheath.
That's what all knives wanna think, but in truth they'll be dependant on the sheath for the rest of their lives.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-06-05 12:27:21
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Well actually, technically a knife can own a sheath.
That's what all knives wanna think, but in truth they'll be dependant on the sheath for the rest of their lives.
Sheaths are designed specifically for knives. What's a sheath without a knife? Just a hollow container.
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