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6 men or 8 men delve?
 Bismarck.Nobunobu
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By Bismarck.Nobunobu 2014-05-01 09:40:14
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I keep hearing about how 6 men or 8 men delve group encounters the same amount of HP for NMs and Boss in fracture. Is this true or some old wives tale? ;o
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2014-05-01 09:45:20
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Bismarck.Nobunobu said: »
I keep hearing about how 6 men or 8 men delve group encounters the same amount of HP for NMs and Boss in fracture. Is this true or some old wives tale? ;o

Not true. Chubs did the math on this in a previous thread, but I believe 65,000 HP is added for each person who joins beyond a 6-man party.

I might be off on the exact HP figure, but it's around that.
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By Lakshmi.Neboh 2014-05-01 09:51:03
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Cerberus.Avalon said: »
Bismarck.Nobunobu said: »
I keep hearing about how 6 men or 8 men delve group encounters the same amount of HP for NMs and Boss in fracture. Is this true or some old wives tale? ;o

Not true. Chubs did the math on this in a previous thread, but I believe 65,000 HP is added for each person who joins beyond a 6-man party.

I might be off on the exact HP figure, but it's around that.
From last I remember, 6-man is 1/3 of original boss's HP. It's an additional 5% added per person after that. I forget the source.
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By Cerberus.Spirachub 2014-05-01 09:51:56
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I never did the maths lol. Someone else did.

But hp scales by the # of people you take in. so every person you add above 6 you'd add 1/18 extra hp on the bosses.

1/18 being 1/18th of what the hp would've been if you take 18 people.

6 people is 6/18. which is 1/3 of original hp.
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By Cerberus.Avalon 2014-05-01 09:53:22
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Cerberus.Spirachub said: »
I never did the maths lol. Someone else did.

But hp scales by the # of people you take in. so every person you add above 6 you'd add 1/18 extra hp on the bosses.

That's what I meant, but I had forgotten what the exact % was. :D
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By Lakshmi.Neboh 2014-05-01 09:54:31
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Cerberus.Spirachub said: »
I never did the maths lol. Someone else did.

But hp scales by the # of people you take in. so every person you add above 6 you'd add 1/18 extra hp on the bosses.
Makes sense right? 1/18 = 5.55% added. So if that additional 1 or 2 ppl will add to dmg or strategy, why not? If not, you're just adding more HP for the same amount of work.
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By Cerberus.Spirachub 2014-05-01 09:57:56
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Lakshmi.Neboh said: »
Cerberus.Spirachub said: »
I never did the maths lol. Someone else did.

But hp scales by the # of people you take in. so every person you add above 6 you'd add 1/18 extra hp on the bosses.
Makes sense right? 1/18 = 5.55% added. So if that additional 1 or 2 ppl will add to dmg or strategy, why not? If not, you're just adding more HP for the same amount of work.

Yup, not contesting that.

Apart from you're not adding 5.55% hp raising from 6 man to 8 man. you're adding 33% of hp. Because you're going from 6/18 of hp to 8/18 of hp.

In a simple example, if a 6 man boss has 6k hp, 8 man boss would have 8k hp.

8k - 6k = 2k. 2k is 33% of 6k.
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By Bismarck.Nobunobu 2014-05-01 10:19:03
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Thanks for the feed backs. That clears it up a lot.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2014-05-01 10:23:32
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Cerberus.Spirachub said: »
Lakshmi.Neboh said: »
Cerberus.Spirachub said: »
I never did the maths lol. Someone else did.

But hp scales by the # of people you take in. so every person you add above 6 you'd add 1/18 extra hp on the bosses.
Makes sense right? 1/18 = 5.55% added. So if that additional 1 or 2 ppl will add to dmg or strategy, why not? If not, you're just adding more HP for the same amount of work.

Yup, not contesting that.

Apart from you're not adding 5.55% hp raising from 6 man to 8 man. you're adding 33% of hp. Because you're going from 6/18 of hp to 8/18 of hp.

In a simple example, if a 6 man boss has 6k hp, 8 man boss would have 8k hp.

8k - 6k = 2k. 2k is 33% of 6k.

i believe he meant 5.55% of what the total hp would be at 18man
But im still waking up so my mine aint totally working atm...
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By Cerberus.Spirachub 2014-05-01 10:26:15
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I'm sure that's what he meant, but just wanted to clarify % is all based on what you're taking it off from.. :P

As in, anyone who plan to take a 7th guy thinking "oh i'm just adding an extra 5% hp onto the bosses if i take him instead of going with 6 people" is obviously incorrect there ^^
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