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 Fenrir.Nightfyre
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-30 16:45:04
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80k >.> NQ Weskit went as high as 60-70k for a while too, normally 20-30. Stuck at ~50k right now.
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 Unicorn.Tarowyn
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By Unicorn.Tarowyn 2009-07-30 16:45:14
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Nightfyre said:
Herp de *** derp. To repost something that comes up every time Windower is mentioned, what do Windower, FFXIAPP, FFXIclopedia, BG, and KI (but not Alla) have in common?


Just out of curiosity, how are using those 3 websites breaking TOS? I could maybe understand FFXIAH (though even this site I'm not sure what part of the TOS you're breaking), but what's wrong with those 3?
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 Garuda.Hypnotizd
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2009-07-30 16:54:59
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Tarowyn said:
Nightfyre said:
Herp de *** derp. To repost something that comes up every time Windower is mentioned, what do Windower, FFXIAPP, FFXIclopedia, BG, and KI (but not Alla) have in common?


Just out of curiosity, how are using those 3 websites breaking TOS? I could maybe understand FFXIAH (though even this site I'm not sure what part of the TOS you're breaking), but what's wrong with those 3?

I'm sure if you look around in other threads where the TOS and windower were named you'll find your answer. This has been beat to death.

Here quick search on the forum search: Searched windower tos
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 Bismarck.Veona
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By Bismarck.Veona 2009-07-30 17:28:55
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 Bahamut.Rumaha
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-30 17:41:30
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omg that hauberk... ; ;
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 Fenrir.Nightfyre
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-07-30 18:06:45
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Tarowyn said:
Just out of curiosity, how are using those 3 websites breaking TOS? I could maybe understand FFXIAH (though even this site I'm not sure what part of the TOS you're breaking), but what's wrong with those 3?

Meant to include FFXIAH. Long story short, none of the above websites except Alla are sanctioned by SE.
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 Ramuh.Thunderz
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2009-07-30 18:30:44
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Malicious said:
Fair enough...here's what I have gotten so far just goofing around.

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I apologize if my rigid stance against game modification offends you.


fyi using another program to take pics of FFXI is also breaking ToS

I don't see SE logo on that pic

roh roh
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 Asura.Korpg
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-07-30 18:32:23
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I would say hypocrit, but why?
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 Ramuh.Thunderz
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2009-07-30 18:34:16
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I dunno ^ , people who Q.Q over windowers is soooo dumb

especially when they are posting that crap on FFXIah dont you agree
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 Bahamut.Rumaha
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By Bahamut.Rumaha 2009-07-30 18:39:33
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i dont play on PC often(360), here and there, so i only use SE's windower cuz all i care about is being able to minimize that ***lol, but yes, hypocrite lol
 Bahamut.Raenryong
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2009-07-30 18:40:15
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Mattyc said:
i was in party with my friend debating on the dmg difference between the 3 gk's i have
@soboro aside@

rindomaru-77dmg store tp +14 acc+4 flash +8
hagun-75dmg
ushi-81dmg +3str acc+ wtf ever on beasts

i didn't see much of a difference in the three as far as ws's went tbh
the only question is this acc gear on any of your chosen gk
your gonna miss without enough acc if your not merited
for that reason 5 hit goes out the window imo
i personally think hagun is a waste of hard earned gil
everyones opinion is there own so no ones right or wrong
i for one think base dmg will win with 5 hit ws's
i have had the hard core samurai complex since i started a few years back
i've had 12 haguns
and have had the hagun>all complex aside from relic
anyways blah blah blah
my point is this if your not merited and have ws dmg issues buy a hagun
if your one of those do or die i wanna out DD everyone types with sam capped merits
and use a hagun u sir are a moron ^^


English skills aside, there is a lot of wrong in this post ;x

Hagun is +18.8% WS damage (with Gorget), +20% WS damage (without Gorget) at 100% TP (less at higher).

To put this in base damage terms...

You will have approximately ~75 WSC+fSTR I'd imagine, if not more.

Let's use 150 BD.

+18.8% => 178.2
Therefore at 150 BD, it's like having an extra 28.2 DMG compared to a blank 75 DMG GKT.

Furthermore, since it multiplies the damage and does not add to it (as DMG and STR do) it will not suffer decreasing returns in the way they do.

Hagun actually becomes better the BETTER your gear is, not the other way around.
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By Unicorn.Tarowyn 2009-07-30 18:42:44
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Nightfyre said:
Meant to include FFXIAH. Long story short, none of the above websites except Alla are sanctioned by SE.


Hmmm, by the strict letter of the law, while the sites themselves are breaking the rules, I don't see anything that actually says there's anything wrong with viewing the sites.

Posting SS's, even with the official SS'er is pretty much out it seems though.

But this is neither the time nor the place, we should probably stop this now, lol.
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 Ramuh.Xanathos
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By Ramuh.Xanathos 2009-07-30 18:57:55
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Xanathos said:
SKY NM:

igqira weskit: earth +20

ruby ring: light+12

warwolf belt: hp+14 mp-14

ZITAH NM:

potent belt: hp+7

failfailfailfail lol


ZITAH NM:

chivalrous chain: str-1 dex+2 agi-1

VoS NM:

jet seraweels: resist blind +1, resist virus +1

jet seraweels: resist bind +2

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By Fairy.Washburn 2009-07-30 19:17:57
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1/1 in Grauberg[S].

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 Ramuh.Thunderz
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2009-07-30 19:34:14
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O.o
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By Phoenix.Jovant 2009-07-30 19:44:14
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Washburn said:
1/1 in Grauberg[S].

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thats sick... /envy lol congrats man
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By Asura.Luminiferous 2009-07-30 20:24:04
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Sky LS did a couple more augments today. Interesting results..

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By Odin.Arnor 2009-07-30 20:30:16
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god thatsmn staff is sexy O.o
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By Fenrir.Alijah 2009-07-30 20:52:00
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Got this today! :D Granted, the HQ Staves would do a bit better in the long run, but still not too bad I dont think. Trying again for some Song Spellcasting %- tomorrow.

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By Bahamut.Foxxy 2009-07-30 21:29:15
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i got an igqira wesket w/ resist charm+1 and a thunder staff w/ wind+17 and healing magic skill+4
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-30 23:41:32
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Alijah said:
Got this today! :D Granted, the HQ Staves would do a bit better in the long run, but still not too bad I dont think. Trying again for some Song Spellcasting %- tomorrow.

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Something like this x2 would be very nice for brd/nin, or perhaps song spellcasting %- x2
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By Leviathan.Antonioklaus 2009-07-31 00:05:30
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Malicious said:
did you really miss the first sentence?
Use of any third-party program that affects game play is prohibited, whether or not it benefits the user.

matter dropped, jeez guilty conscience?

I guess when you've been in game long enough to have seen people banned for just using windower you might be as paranoid as I am...again sorry if I offend you.

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lol, anyone that says they got banned for "just" windower is FOS! Unless they are too stupid and talk about it in game chat in front of ppl that don't like them.

GMs won't use links or pictures at all. I tried when I was on ps2. I offered to take a photo and send it to them. Told me it was against their policy.

btw, you don't think SE trolls forums?
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-07-31 00:19:22
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No, thats my job :D
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By Asura.Buddhsie 2009-07-31 00:21:30
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Been trying Dragon harnesses... So far the best ive got is +20 HP -20 MP.. not bad for reducing the HP lost when switching to WS gear from homam which gives a fair bit of +HP.. but I'll keep trying D:
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By Fenrir.Alijah 2009-07-31 00:27:42
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Blazza said:
Alijah said:
Got this today! :D Granted, the HQ Staves would do a bit better in the long run, but still not too bad I dont think. Trying again for some Song Spellcasting %- tomorrow.

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Something like this x2 would be very nice for brd/nin, or perhaps song spellcasting %- x2


Yeah I bought a second dagger and Im getting another one once my AH crap sells. Im totally addicted to these things! >:D Also have an RDM one to try.

Am really hoping for another one like this for Brd/Nin, or maybe some nice Song Spellcasting time.
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By Garuda.Malicious 2009-07-31 01:47:15
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Thunderz said:
Malicious said:
Fair enough...here's what I have gotten so far just goofing around.

User submitted image
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I apologize if my rigid stance against game modification offends you.


fyi using another program to take pics of FFXI is also breaking ToS

I don't see SE logo on that pic

roh roh


Hello, there is now a feature built in to FFXI that allows you to window the program, that's all you have to do to take a hq screenshot, then you can use paint or which ever imaging program you want to generate your screenshot into a sharable image....duh, using the feature provided by SE only.....not cheating with outside software, without windows, FFXI doesn't work.....nice try, but you fail.
And Korpg, did I bash you, you just hatin because yer jealous.
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By Garuda.Malicious 2009-07-31 01:49:39
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Antonioklaus said:
Malicious said:
did you really miss the first sentence?
Use of any third-party program that affects game play is prohibited, whether or not it benefits the user.

matter dropped, jeez guilty conscience?

I guess when you've been in game long enough to have seen people banned for just using windower you might be as paranoid as I am...again sorry if I offend you.

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lol, anyone that says they got banned for "just" windower is FOS! Unless they are too stupid and talk about it in game chat in front of ppl that don't like them.

GMs won't use links or pictures at all. I tried when I was on ps2. I offered to take a photo and send it to them. Told me it was against their policy.

btw, you don't think SE trolls forums?


My only point in saying anything is, people posting pictures showing altered games is like the parolee that wrote a bank robbery note on his release papers. I have been a gamer for an extremely long time, prolly longer than most players have been walking, I would put myself in the upper 10% age bracket in this game (RL age players). Excuse me for pointing out the leaving of evidence that could potentially (key word potentially) cause you (users of third party software) grief, if yer not worried about it, then stfu and stick to the topic, notice, I posted screen shots, using the features of the game as intended. If you need to see other people's tp or have your timers up for your JAs or spells thru a third party program, you would be (in certain circles *diehards*) weak. Play the game as it was given and show some skills, otherwise use a crutch and that just proves my point. If ya can't do it the way it's given, then you are lacking, there is no argument, enhancement is enhancement, nothing you can say will change the definition of the word. Please for goodness sake and the peace of all the other readers stfu and post your augments, why dwell on something you can't win, I cannot be beaten in this argument, because I stand on TRUE usage, original programing and appreciation for the developers work. I've had these arguments with people for over 10 yrs and you all say the same thing, and continue to prove your weakness.
I apologize to the readers and posters of this topic, I will no longer respond to any attempts to jab at my statement, I will stay on topic and just laugh at anyone who recoils at my opinion. Arguing online is like being in the Special Olympics....even if you win you are still HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
I am not hating on windower users, in fact it's the opposite, I justdon't want to see them receive any grief. {b} Flame away if you are an idiot [/b]
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By Odin.Blazza 2009-07-31 02:07:53
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Dude, seriously, take your windower hating rants somewhere people actually give a ***. I have no idea if such a place exists, but we really don't care.
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By Garuda.Malicious 2009-07-31 02:22:15
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Blazza said:
Dude, seriously, take your windower hating rants somewhere people actually give a ***. I have no idea if such a place exists, but we really don't care.


I'm not hating windower users, I pity them.
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By Bahamut.Etrayis 2009-07-31 02:33:52
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Malicious said:
Blazza said:
Dude, seriously, take your windower hating rants somewhere people actually give a ***. I have no idea if such a place exists, but we really don't care.


I'm not hating windower users, I pity them.

lol
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