S.Kindred Crest Farming

Hello, yesterday I took a group of 6/6 to Kamihr Drifts to farm seals since yesterdays login camp started they have higher chance for "seals" to drop. I was just curious on the fact that they don't really have a lot of mobs in Kamihr Drifts to support 6/6 since the mobs die so fast and re spawn time bothers members. We took the group to Yahse hunting grounds where the PT split up and went on a frenzy killing any mob we could find... Still getting 1-2 or rarely 3 seals at a time. Question to the community is did anybody find that Killing around each other helps more to drop? Or is it better to just split up and kill whatever you come across? Should we keep farming in these zones or would it be better to just join an alliance in altep an kill that way? Any type of feedback on this would be much appreciative. TY!

Killing in party 6/6 is more efficient for farming.
Thats because of the nature of seals/crest drops. They arent just based in a random chance. Instead, they also depend of a cooldown timer, that is, if you get a crest now, you wont get any more till your timer reset. After that, crest are random based.
And according with updates notes, the more people you have in party, the cooldowm time is reduced.
So the efficient way to farm is getting a party 6/6 to minimum cooldown time, get a drop, wait the cooldown, and imediately after kill mobs faster one after other, till crests drops and repeat.
It said that zoning reset timer, so if you can kill near and entrance, prob that would be the optimal way to farm.
Aparently new zones are the best place to farm. I farmed in morimar with a 2 member party and the timer was high, and single drops. Grabbed more one friend and went to kamihr, double, triple drops started to fall. Joined more 3 friends doing wk just to reduce timer, me alone farmed 15 random crests in 2 hours aside the 12 or so skc, that i lotted. Other member got the random crest drops also, so i wouldnt be surprise if a total of 50 crests dropped.
Ally is pointless. The reduced cooldown timer cap at 6 members, aside you prob wont be freely loting skc, also the drops in abyssea are horrible.

Thanks Pantafernado, just trying to look at this from all points of view.

Try taking that party and splitting it into 3 groups of 2 then alliance it. See if that helps because normally how seals drop is 1 seal per party per 5 minutes. Yesterday In 3 party alliance I was seeing 6 seals drop at a time in some cases. Which makes me think that its just a x2 drop rate during the event.

From what I've noticed.

Each 'seal' item can drop once every 5 minutes. I'm pretty sure when you zone you have to wait 5 minutes to get your first seal drop. So you actually wouldn't want to try to keep zoning because it would reset it to 5 minute wait.

That seal drop timer is party specific though, not alliance. So if you have 3 people all in different parties and alliance them each party will get a drop every 5 minutes. So instead of 1 every 5 minutes you get 3 every 5 minutes.

Just make sure that you have someone killing in each party.

Example: DD in Party 1 gets killshot and mob drops 1 seal, party 1 won't be able to get a drop for 5 minutes. So you want Party 2 to get the killshot so they get their drop and start their 5 minute timer. If Party 1 is the only one killing then you're not going to see any more seal drops.

From what it's sounding like(and I may be wrong) is that the 5 minutes hasn't changed during this event, but they made where 2/3 can drop at a time. I would recommend seeing when the drops start to increase. Someone mentioned only needing 3 people to see the increase.

So what I would recommend is if you have 6 members. Putting 2 parties of 3 people and alliance may be better. You can have them divide up at 2 different camps and both parties will be getting their own seal drops for the alliance.

Zoning does appear to abolish the cooldown timer. I've gotten back-to-back sacred Kindred's crests within 40 seconds zoning in between (this is soloing).

SS of 40 second interval
Also the timer can be shorter than 5 minutes so that multiple crests can show up in the pool. Anecdotally in party (with thief though and before the 11/11 campaign). I have seen another KC drop a little over 3 minutes after the previous KC (no other crest drops in between).

With this 11/11 event it may be more efficient to farm SKCs in party but if soloing, zoning "method" hasn't been nerfed.

Guy/girls, do what I do. Bring a heavy DD to a lower-level area like Ceizak. Go from the Frontier Station all down the beach and pound the hell outta mandies. MNK is great for this bc Chakra + Regen equipment. Panta, lets do SKC10/20's tonight!!! :)

Just need teroku to join because he helped me farm my crests, but lets do it.

I'm home at 4:30PM...should get a few LS'ers and go to town

Really wanting that MNK Body for a 700+HP Chakra lol

Also, dont do that ***with microcosmic orb.
I wasted 10 sacred crests that i spend like 2 hours solo to farm to get the same common drops from the horlais peak original bcnm (vile elixir, etc. Not even the "fantastic" aegis ring...).
Of course i did in the normal mode, of course it was never said that af mats would drop from microcosmic orb, but still.... I wanted anything different.

Wait, only SKC20 has the guaranteed Rem's Tale drops? (Idk maybe I read it wrong)

Yes

1) Seal recast is one minute not 5 minute. Not sure if it's a byproduct of farming with 6, the special XI anniversary campaign or both, but I guarrantee you it's 1 minute.
2) TH8 or bust. Did an attempt with someone /thf and it's crap. (ionis is adding one tier TH for free btw)
3) Seals drop by packet of 1 to 6, i've had 2 SKC drop at once several times, but usually it's plenty of crap seal with at least 50% chance of an SKC.
3) Khimir drifts has a nice spot with sheeps and rams at the bottom left of the map. There are 10-15 mobs and since you are limited by the 1 minute timer, it's more than enough for a single pt.

1) It is NOT 1 minute, i can guarantee you that based on since SKC have came out until even now with the event going on I have farmed for a total of around 50 hours, lowest i have yet to see is 4.5m(lowest time that comes to mind) cooldown, NEVER 1 minute or even close.
2) It was proven LONG ago that TH has nothing to do with drop rates on seals, I have gotten pools with 6 SKC and pools with 6 KC.
3) I agree with drop rate on SKC :p
4) Any 'new area' will have better drop rates, so the new gates or drifts is best bet as you stated.

There is no five minute cooldown. I have twenty by killing mandies over two days. But I did get two seals back to back. But then hour or two nothing.

Sucks. 38 kc 28 hkc and 20skc

Farming with a THF in only a party of 3 in Marjami, I've observed durations < 2 minutes both between sacred crests and between any two crest types multiple times. (Still looking for < 1 minute but I only farmed for an hour in a group so far.)

4.5 minutes between crests in a party of 6 with THF is pretty unlikely in my experience (both before and after event), although your situation may differ from mine.

According to some published JP guide, TH affects crest frequency indirectly through reducing the cooldown timer.

Going to try subing THF and see what happends, see if it really lowers cooldown

1 minute is 100% certain but idk if it's due to being a 6 man party, the special event, or treasure hunter.

4 ppl party and TH 3min CD on seals drop. so if 1 player = -1 min is possible to have 1 mins CD

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l53/aikchan/img_20131117_211942.png

wasn't really looking for that SS, randomly killed 2 mobs while running around, w/ 3 mins 2secs since last seal.