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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:24:03
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Siren.Enternius said:
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There's no reason to go for Aftermath with Ryunohige. Drakesbane only increases crit rate at higher TP so assuming you have a good DEX build for it, 300 TP won't be much more effective than 100 TP. That said, you're sacrificing 66% of your WS damage to get cool 800-damage jump spikes.

Aye, but once you did get the aftermath, all hell can break loose since you'd be swinging away like crazy and jumps would be crit and DAed. However, you would be generally sacrificing a lot of WS dmg from obtaining said aftermath.
And then even if you were doing that, the double-attack jumps would all be for naught as you'd just have to save up to 300 TP again.

Yeah =/
How long is the aftermath anyways? 1 minute right?
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:24:53
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2 minutes for DA, 3 minutes for ACC/Attack.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:26:03
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Eh yeah. If you were smart about it, you could easily get 300% back on time to repeat the process and still get 2-4 weapon skills off beforehand. But it just doesn't sound worth it to make DRG a DoT based damage dealer.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:27:45
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And this is comparing it to anything at all worthwhile. While we're debating whether it's even worth using, there's stuff like this that would win everytime regardless:

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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:29:23
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Yeah, the Corsesca wins for the sake of not having a condition to kick ***. But if you had the patience and haste buffs at hand, Ryonohige would be pretty neato. But god help the soul having to save up that initial first hand 300% -.-
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:31:25
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Even saving to 300 TP with the OAT aftermath up, you'll still be a lot slower than someone WSing at 100 TP. Even someone using Stingray or something. Corseca WSs almost twice as often as even that, so you'll WS about 4x as often with Corseca than Ryunohige. For less damage, yes, but either way you look at it, 4 WSs for 1200 damage > 1 WS for 1800 damage.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-08-29 13:31:30
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Siren.Enternius said:
And this is comparing it to anything at all worthwhile. While we're debating whether it's even worth using, there's stuff like this that would win everytime regardless:



And this is comparing it to anything at all worthwhile. While we're debating whether it's even worth using, there's a job like this that would win everytime regardless:

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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-08-29 13:32:07
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Ryunohige is bad, and you should feel bad.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:32:38
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Yeah, Loldrg and all that, but I was reading the comments on Ryunohige and people were saying "Lol this is the best mythic weapon" which, while that may be true, it just goes to show that Mythic weapons aren't worth using regardless.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:34:16
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Siren.Enternius said:
Even saving to 300 TP with the OAT aftermath up, you'll still be a lot slower than someone WSing at 100 TP. Even someone using Stingray or something. Corseca WSs almost twice as often as even that, so you'll WS about 4x as often with Corseca than Ryunohige. For less damage, yes, but either way you look at it, 4 WSs for 1200 damage > 1 WS for 1800 damage.

I just realized. WSing even once at 100% post the 300% aftermath for the DA proc rate would totally overwrite it with the weaksauce aftermath huh?

Derp.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-08-29 13:34:42
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Conqueror is totally better.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:35:44
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This spear is better than Ryunohige.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:36:12
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IMO the best mythics are the ones for the jobs that never had the chance to get a relic: DNC dagger, BLU sword and COR gun.

But with Empyreal weapons coming out and the potential they serve, Mythics may generally become total moot in time.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-08-29 13:37:22
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Kenkonken.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:37:57
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Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha said:
Kenkonken.

See? PUP is so lol, I completely forgot about it.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:38:15
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Are the Empyreal weapons loaded with hidden effects or something? Because looking at them, they don't look very good. The high-damage trial path as-is isn't worth doing, and Empyreal weapons are just the same thing but with even higher damage.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:38:52
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Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha said:
Kenkonken.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-08-29 13:38:55
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Siren.Enternius said:
Are the Empyreal weapons loaded with hidden effects or something? Because looking at them, they don't look very good. The high-damage trial path as-is isn't worth doing, and Empyreal weapons are just the same thing but with even higher damage.

No hidden so far, they are to get their own WS's I believe, but until they show they are worth the time, I am not even motioning towards any.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-08-29 13:39:37
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Kogarasumaru is the worst mythic by far, anyway.

Edit**

I mean I guess maybe its the best tanking GKT with the Third Eye which Idk even what it does, but that is pretty much it.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:40:42
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Siren.Enternius said:
Are the Empyreal weapons loaded with hidden effects or something? Because looking at them, they don't look very good. The high-damage trial path as-is isn't worth doing, and Empyreal weapons are just the same thing but with even higher damage.

Their power will sleep til SE is done updating/releasing abyssea stuff. I have a feeling it'll be like 3 stages similar to the fashion in which relics are made.

Your base weapon for vision of abyssea, possibly augmented with neat stuff for scars, and hopefully the final version for heroes. We'll just have to see.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:46:25
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Loldrg
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-08-29 13:48:33
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Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha said:
Conqueror is totally better.
Yagrush!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha 2010-08-29 13:49:31
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Diabolos.Rydiya said:
Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha said:
Conqueror is totally better.
Yagrush!
Yagrush your face.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-08-29 13:50:29
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Siren.Enternius said:


Loldrg
Exception to the rule.
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-08-29 13:50:32
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The ***? Why the hell is my laptop in KY? It's coming to WA and was in Arizona damnit!
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-29 13:51:32
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Diabolos.Rydiya said:
Quetzalcoatl.Rumaha said:
Conqueror is totally better.
Yagrush!
Yay spend 90M and months of effort to be able to do what SCH could do back in 2008.
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-08-29 13:52:37
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>.> I could've said Tupsimati..
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-29 13:53:30
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loldrg?
 
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