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 Diabolos.Rydiya
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-06-20 00:01:45
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Siren.Enternius said:
Quitters, unite!
Ayup.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-06-20 00:02:45
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I'm trying to come back.... new update has me intrigued.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-06-20 00:03:16
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New update has me glad I quit while I had the chance.
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By Siren.Eagleeyes 2010-06-20 00:04:26
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Siren.Enternius said:
New update has me glad I quit while I had the chance.


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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-20 00:07:22
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-06-20 00:10:26
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My new deck concept, if I can ever get a sound answer on humility's ruling.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-20 00:13:28
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Bahamut.Serj said:
My new deck concept, if I can ever get a sound answer on humility's ruling.
Just look at the oracle text. Or the advance rulings on when each type of state based effects are applied. Which changes occasional and since I haven't played in a couple of years not sure if it works
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-06-20 00:14:13
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Diabolos.Rydiya said:
Asura.Ludoggy said:
Diabolos.Rydiya said:
phatspade said:
so it's been about 6 months of not playing. is anyone gaining more interest to the game now with all these big changes?
I quit.. Involuntarily, but still.
gotta pay for the game yourself now?
And start over from scratch, or find a nub to buy? Yep.
lol he took your account too? lame
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By phatspade 2010-06-20 00:16:50
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wow i missed out on a lot in the past 3 months.
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-06-20 00:16:57
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Bahamut.Serj said:
My new deck concept, if I can ever get a sound answer on humility's ruling.

I don't understand the conflict? What I'm seeing is two cards used to keep a field wiped until someone destroys either enchantment.
Asura.Ludoggy said:
lol he took your account too? lame

And it appears I've missed something? Ryd get hacked or something?
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-06-20 00:19:31
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This is the current interaction between Humility and Opalescence: The type-changing effect applies at layer 4, but the rest happens in the applicable layers. The rest of it will apply even if the permanent loses its ability before it's finished applying. So if Opalescence, Humility, and Worship are on the battlefield and Opalescence entered the battlefield before Humility, the following is true: Layer 4: Humility and Worship each become creatures that are still enchantments. (Opalescence). Layer 6: Humility and Worship each lose their abilities. (Humility) Layer 7b: Humility becomes 4/4 and Worship becomes 4/4. (Opalescence). Humility becomes 1/1 and Worship becomes 1/1 (Humility). But if Humility entered the battlefield before Opalescence, the following is true: Layer 4: Humility and Worship each become creatures that are still enchantments (Opalescence). Layer 6: Humility and Worship each lose their abilities (Humility). Layer 7b: Humility becomes 1/1 and Worship becomes 1/1 (Humility). Humility becomes 4/4 and Worship becomes 4/4 (Opalescence).


You apply power/toughness changing effects in a series of sublayers in the following order: (a) effects from characteristic-defining abilities; (b) effects that set power and/or toughness to a specific number or value; (c) effects that modify power and/or toughness but don't set power and/or toughness to a specific number or value; (d) changes from counters; (e) effects that switch a creature's power and toughness. This card's effect is always applied in (b), which means that effects applied in sublayer (c), (d), or (e) will not be overwritten; they will be applied to the new value.




So in paragraph 2.... Humility is applied first and then Night of Souls Betrayal. Cool, a *** you lock down
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-06-20 00:20:58
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Ramuh.Tousou said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
My new deck concept, if I can ever get a sound answer on humility's ruling.

I don't understand the conflict? What I'm seeing is two cards used to keep a field wiped until someone destroys either enchantment.

Conflict was which happens first. -1/-1 then becoming 1/1 vanilla makes Betrayal pointless. Other way around makes creature go boom.
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-06-20 00:22:25
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Ramuh.Tousou said:
Asura.Ludoggy said:
lol he took your account too? lame

And it appears I've missed something? Ryd get hacked or something?
Broke up with Raelia.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-06-20 00:22:27
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Humility made the priority structure. It kinda made people go "Huh?" because of Opalescence and it.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-20 00:23:53
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Not like outside of sligh, which will probably kill you before then anyways and wouldn't need humility in there, actually use creatures much in type one or is that still extended legal?
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-06-20 00:28:32
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Type 1, and I haven't played in a tournament in many years lol, so idk. I just play with my friends and annoy the hell out of them with lockdown/control decks.
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By phatspade 2010-06-20 00:28:35
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nerd talk, go!
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-06-20 00:28:46
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Bahamut.Serj said:
Conflict was which happens first. -1/-1 then becoming 1/1 vanilla makes Betrayal pointless. Other way around makes creature go boom.

I think the 2 paragraphs overcomplicated something simplistic :x

Then again, my mind was never in tune with each picky little detail or ruling. If -1/-1 is a constant effect, then regardless of when the creatures are turned into 1/1s, it'll still take effect.

I can only assume all these details arose from somebody being pissed off and trying to "Lawyer" their way into a win.
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-06-20 00:29:19
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phatspade said:
nerd talk, go!
Apparently, and it's nerd talk I don't understand, so I can't take part in
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-06-20 00:30:48
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phatspade said:
nerd talk, go!
-Interjects with more relevant, better nerd-talk-

Anyone going to get The Old Republic?
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By phatspade 2010-06-20 00:31:20
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I'm being a social networking nerd atm. Running into all kinds of people now that I joined a group that's specific to my air force job.
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By Diabolos.Rydiya 2010-06-20 00:32:53
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Siren.Enternius said:
phatspade said:
nerd talk, go!
Anyone going to get The Old Republic?
Nope.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-20 00:33:02
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Ramuh.Tousou said:
Bahamut.Serj said:
Conflict was which happens first. -1/-1 then becoming 1/1 vanilla makes Betrayal pointless. Other way around makes creature go boom.
I think the 2 paragraphs overcomplicated something simplistic :x

Then again, my mind was never in tune with each picky little detail or ruling. If -1/-1 is a constant effect, then regardless of when the creatures are turned into 1/1s, it'll still take effect.

I can only assume all these details arose from somebody being pissed off and trying to "Lawyer" their way into a win.
By that same argument it would make those 0/0s back into 1/1s again though. Hence the layering of effects was developed
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-06-20 00:33:31
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Diabolos.Rydiya said:
Siren.Enternius said:
phatspade said:
nerd talk, go!
Anyone going to get The Old Republic?
Nope.
Why not?
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By phatspade 2010-06-20 00:33:59
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since I can't edit my posts...I'll just double post.
(if no one posts before I submit this one)

MMO's are a No-Go for me. I'm strictly playing games I can pause or just leave and not worrying about making other people upset.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-06-20 00:35:19
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Same thing with Opalescence, humility would make the enchantments 1/1 vanilla, but then humility would have no effect, as would opalescence. The game would just end. Only solution.
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-06-20 00:35:38
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
By that same argument it would make those 0/0s back into 1/1s again though. Hence the layering of effects was developed

0/0s would die and be removed from the field, therefore cutting the back and forth off at the knees, but I see what you mean now.

As for TOR: I'm quite interested in it and have been enjoying the bits and pieces they've released. It's not something I'm all giddy for, but definitely something I'll look into.

Edit: No idea what opalescence is or does. Didn't see the picture of it, so I didn't take it into consideration :x
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-06-20 00:36:41
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Siren.Enternius said:
phatspade said:
nerd talk, go!
-Interjects with more relevant, better nerd-talk-

Anyone going to get The Old Republic?
If I had the stuff, I would c.c
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-06-20 00:37:33
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I used to make decks could cause forced draws unless one of us pretty much just quit lol. Ie infinite loops that would accomplish something but might not help me win the game unless other things were setup lol
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