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 Carbuncle.Sevourn
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-30 05:57:39
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Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Hmmm strange how you know your little snapfax tidbits but can't understand basic, basic fundamentals.
right looking like this http://www.myspace.com/bestfreindsanimalshelter/photos/3451290 is clearly a result of not knowing even the most basic ***someone please take me under their wing and teach me how to do a bench press

How does a pair of meatheads jerking off together prove you know anything?

because you don't look like that if you ignore the basics

if your "basics" were correct

i'd still look like gimme
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-30 05:58:21
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Fenrir.Weewoo said:
I really don't mind you Sev.
You're a jackpot of knowledge and help whether it be game related or not. I just don't like everything being painted as black or white.


you forgot to explain what went over my head
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-10-30 05:58:57
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hey serious guys..i have an FFXI related question lol.... so somebody plz read this post and respond in kind to help lol... i have 8/8 mp merits, and i got an ugg pendant.. what gear can i put on then take off to fake out my mp pool to reduce it low enough so I can get the +8 MAB on cor or nin?
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2010-10-30 05:59:43
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Yup you know how to lift that's what I said.
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By Fenrir.Weewoo 2010-10-30 05:59:51
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Weewoo said:
I really don't mind you Sev.
You're a jackpot of knowledge and help whether it be game related or not. I just don't like everything being painted as black or white.


you forgot to explain what went over my head

Oh, I was just trying to explain that you're going into unnecessary complexities when we're aiming at general fundamentals for well being.
Not that the complexities don't help or are important, but it really ends up feeling like red tape to someone on level with just being healthy.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-30 05:59:57
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Hmmm strange how you know your little snapfax tidbits but can't understand basic, basic fundamentals.
right looking like this http://www.myspace.com/bestfreindsanimalshelter/photos/3451290 is clearly a result of not knowing even the most basic ***someone please take me under their wing and teach me how to do a bench press

How does a pair of meatheads jerking off together prove you know anything?

because you don't look like that if you ignore the basics

if your "basics" were correct

i'd still look like gimme


as for the academic side...

i still havent seen any answers...

even to the easiest and most important one

why it's so important to leave within an hour or so
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-10-30 06:00:11
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Not sure how low you need it, but you can always get the MP cruor buff and cancel it. It will come back 2 seconds after you cancel it, but it won't fill your MP up afterward.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-10-30 06:01:09
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Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
Not sure how low you need it, but you can always get the MP cruor buff and cancel it. It will come back 2 seconds after you cancel it, but it won't fill your MP up afterward.


thx Tiger...any idea of outside of abyssea ***? like if i'm just *** around testing my jutsus?
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By Fenrir.Weewoo 2010-10-30 06:01:12
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
hey serious guys..i have an FFXI related question lol.... so somebody plz read this post and respond in kind to help lol... i have 8/8 mp merits, and i got an ugg pendant.. what gear can i put on then take off to fake out my mp pool to reduce it low enough so I can get the +8 MAB on cor or nin?

Not sure what your MP pool is, but keep in mind merits are added to your base MP and are not gear related. So put that 80 MP into the overall percentage.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-30 06:01:18
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Fenrir.Weewoo said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Weewoo said:
I really don't mind you Sev.
You're a jackpot of knowledge and help whether it be game related or not. I just don't like everything being painted as black or white.


you forgot to explain what went over my head

Oh, I was just trying to explain that you're going into unnecessary complexities when we're aiming at general fundamentals for well being.
Not that the complexities don't help or are important, but it really ends up feeling like red tape to someone on level with just being healthy.


i brought them up in direct response to sag

who seems to be under the impression i am a meathead with no academic knowledge of lifting

try to call me out on not knowing my ***

and i will make my point

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By Fenrir.Weewoo 2010-10-30 06:02:30
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I'm actually kind of curious now why it's vital to leave the gym within an hour after finishing your workout.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-10-30 06:02:35
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Fenrir.Weewoo said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
hey serious guys..i have an FFXI related question lol.... so somebody plz read this post and respond in kind to help lol... i have 8/8 mp merits, and i got an ugg pendant.. what gear can i put on then take off to fake out my mp pool to reduce it low enough so I can get the +8 MAB on cor or nin?

Not sure what your MP pool is, but keep in mind merits are added to your base MP and are not gear related. So put that 80 MP into the overall percentage.


i said for nin or cor (cor isn't leveled up that high atm, but point remains, cuz i would like to level it eventually... i got the pendant for sch really but it has uses for nin for sure), so sub would be not magic related, and for nin i use turban >_< which i can always take off i guess and put back on
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By Fenrir.Weewoo 2010-10-30 06:03:40
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Well even if the job doesn't have natural MP, you gave yourself natural MP just by having those merits. So you'll need to hit <40 to get your latent I believe.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-10-30 06:05:41
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yes wee, i understand that much, and i know convert x to y gear for hp/mp doesn't count in said equation >_< but i'm not sure what gears I can use to fake out my mp pool, though in abyssea, tiger has a good idea, and again i thank you.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-30 06:07:19
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Fenrir.Weewoo said:
I'm actually kind of curious now why it's vital to leave the gym within an hour after finishing your workout.

cortisol

it mobilises amino acids from muscle tissue and sends them over to mr liver for gluconeogenisis, leaving you with glucose where that wonderful muscle tissue used to be

not only that, it inhabits cellular rna synthesis, which means no protein synthesis(well reduced protein synthesis actually) for you

46 minutes is the magic number where your adrenal gland has pumped out enough cortisol to have a significant effect on muscle fibers

past an hour, its a case of one step foward, two steps back
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2010-10-30 06:09:00
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Weewoo said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Weewoo said:
I really don't mind you Sev. You're a jackpot of knowledge and help whether it be game related or not. I just don't like everything being painted as black or white.
you forgot to explain what went over my head
Oh, I was just trying to explain that you're going into unnecessary complexities when we're aiming at general fundamentals for well being. Not that the complexities don't help or are important, but it really ends up feeling like red tape to someone on level with just being healthy.
i brought them up in direct response to sag who seems to be under the impression i am a meathead with no academic knowledge of lifting try to call me out on not knowing my ***and i will make my point

...

For the 4th time.

You obviously know how to lift. That is obv what you specialise in and you know how to do it<~ LOOK HERE

I didn't say you don't know how to lift or that you don't know anything full stop, I said that alot of what you were saying to the others was misinformed; regarding toning up, cardio workouts, high rep workouts. You can recite your biology textbook it doesn't change the fact that you have already demonstrated you don't understand the advantages of alternative exercises. Hell I don't know a great deal about lifting, you don't see me running my mouth saying it's a pointless exercise and claiming I know better than everyone else.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-30 06:09:00
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Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Yup you know how to lift that's what I said.

still waiting for a credible source for your assertions
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By Fenrir.Weewoo 2010-10-30 06:13:07
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Weewoo said:
I'm actually kind of curious now why it's vital to leave the gym within an hour after finishing your workout.

cortisol

it mobilises amino acids from muscle tissue and sends them over to mr liver for gluconeogenisis, leaving you with glucose where that wonderful muscle tissue used to be

not only that, it inhabits cellular rna synthesis, which means no protein synthesis(well reduced protein synthesis actually) for you

46 minutes is the magic number where your adrenal gland has pumped out enough cortisol to have a significant effect on muscle fibers

past an hour, its a case of one step foward, two steps back

I'm confused as to how this relates to how long an exercise should go on and when it comes into matter of when you leave since I would think the effect is passive regardless of elapsed time.
Perhaps I'm just confusing myself since it's 4 AM.
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By Phoenix.Gimmeurselables 2010-10-30 06:15:16
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Hmmm strange how you know your little snapfax tidbits but can't understand basic, basic fundamentals.
right looking like this http://www.myspace.com/bestfreindsanimalshelter/photos/3451290 is clearly a result of not knowing even the most basic ***someone please take me under their wing and teach me how to do a bench press

How does a pair of meatheads jerking off together prove you know anything?

because you don't look like that if you ignore the basics

if your "basics" were correct

i'd still look like gimme
LOL you're still talking like this huh? Wow, you are so pathetic.
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2010-10-30 06:16:52
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Fenrir.Weewoo said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Weewoo said:
I'm actually kind of curious now why it's vital to leave the gym within an hour after finishing your workout.
cortisol it mobilises amino acids from muscle tissue and sends them over to mr liver for gluconeogenisis, leaving you with glucose where that wonderful muscle tissue used to be not only that, it inhabits cellular rna synthesis, which means no protein synthesis(well reduced protein synthesis actually) for you 46 minutes is the magic number where your adrenal gland has pumped out enough cortisol to have a significant effect on muscle fibers past an hour, its a case of one step foward, two steps back
I'm confused as to how this relates to how long an exercise should go on and when it comes into matter of when you leave since I would think the effect is passive regardless of elapsed time. Perhaps I'm just confusing myself since it's 4 AM.

He is trying to sound smart by overwhelming you with an extract from wiki. Basically there is a window if you like for optimal muscle repair/refuelling post workout called the 'glycogen window'. Taking on recovery drinks or protein shakes during this time grants you the maximal effect for repairing and refuelling your body for the next workout.
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By Phoenix.Gimmeurselables 2010-10-30 06:17:02
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Apparently after working out for 2 weeks if I don't have massive bulging muscles already it's because my basics are wrong? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-30 06:18:21
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yawn
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By Phoenix.Gimmeurselables 2010-10-30 06:19:13
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Morning Dasva, you missed out on some epic lols
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2010-10-30 06:20:14
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Phoenix.Gimmeurselables said:
Apparently after working out for 2 weeks if I don't have massive bulging muscles already it's because my basics are wrong? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Lmao look at the link he posted of the 2 guys with their hands on their ***.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2010-10-30 06:20:40
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Phoenix.Gimmeurselables said:
Morning Dasva, you missed out on some epic lols
I glanced thru when I saw that since I'd been napping at night there were like 25 new pages... looks mostly lame though
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-30 06:20:59
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Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Weewoo said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Weewoo said:
I really don't mind you Sev. You're a jackpot of knowledge and help whether it be game related or not. I just don't like everything being painted as black or white.
you forgot to explain what went over my head
Oh, I was just trying to explain that you're going into unnecessary complexities when we're aiming at general fundamentals for well being. Not that the complexities don't help or are important, but it really ends up feeling like red tape to someone on level with just being healthy.
i brought them up in direct response to sag who seems to be under the impression i am a meathead with no academic knowledge of lifting try to call me out on not knowing my ***and i will make my point

...

For the 4th time.

You obviously know how to lift. That is obv what you specialise in and you know how to do it<~ LOOK HERE

I didn't say you don't know how to lift or that you don't know anything full stop, I said that alot of what you were saying to the others was misinformed; regarding toning up, cardio workouts, high rep workouts. You can recite your biology textbook it doesn't change the fact that you have already demonstrated you don't understand the advantages of alternative exercises. Hell I don't know a great deal about lifting, you don't see me running my mouth saying it's a pointless exercise and claiming I know better than everyone else.


i absolutely understand the benefits of alternative exercises

your body is a cavemen at heart. it doesn't know we can get food when we want it, and so it wants to make the absolute minimum amount of muscle possible

if you stick to the same workout routine, your body will synthesize the exact amount of muscle it needs to do the work and not a bit more

that's why it's so important to constantly change exercises, exercise order, angles at which you hit the muscle, and incorporate lockouts, supersets, dropsets, bodyweights, etc

that said, you don't get bigger in the gym, you get smaller. you get larger while you sleep and your body is in repair mode. here's why you are wrong about high rep sets.

you achieve muscular hypertrophy through two major mechanisms, muscle tears(which you may already know) and to kick your body far enough out of its normal routine to stimulate T3 and T4 release from the thyroid follicles(which you did not already know)

high reps do not put enough stress on your muscle fibers to create appreciable tearing. they do not send your body into enough of a state of alarm to stimulate t3 and t4 release.

they do not produce enough cardiovascular activity to achieve the state of ketosis you would need for efficient fat burn to achieve your "toned" look.

claiming i don't know my basics, my academia, or anything in between isn't a particularly effective tack here. i'm not misinformed ewhen i tell you you are wrong, i have an intamate understanding of exactly why you are wrong.

admitting you know *** all about lifting was the truest thing you've said tonight

like i told art, it's probably best to stick to calling me an ***, you'll get more traction there

and once you've been reading it for years, you don't have to crack open a book anymore to recite it
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By Phoenix.Gimmeurselables 2010-10-30 06:21:30
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I don't care how much book knowledge Sev says he has, his common sense is out the *** window.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-30 06:23:45
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Ramuh.Sagittario said:
Fenrir.Weewoo said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Weewoo said:
I'm actually kind of curious now why it's vital to leave the gym within an hour after finishing your workout.
cortisol it mobilises amino acids from muscle tissue and sends them over to mr liver for gluconeogenisis, leaving you with glucose where that wonderful muscle tissue used to be not only that, it inhabits cellular rna synthesis, which means no protein synthesis(well reduced protein synthesis actually) for you 46 minutes is the magic number where your adrenal gland has pumped out enough cortisol to have a significant effect on muscle fibers past an hour, its a case of one step foward, two steps back
I'm confused as to how this relates to how long an exercise should go on and when it comes into matter of when you leave since I would think the effect is passive regardless of elapsed time. Perhaps I'm just confusing myself since it's 4 AM.

He is trying to sound smart by overwhelming you with an extract from wiki. Basically there is a window if you like for optimal muscle repair/refuelling post workout called the 'glycogen window'. Taking on recovery drinks or protein shakes during this time grants you the maximal effect for repairing and refuelling your body for the next workout.

sorry, didn't touch wiki :(
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By Ramuh.Sagittario 2010-10-30 06:23:58
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Phoenix.Gimmeurselables said:
I don't care how much book knowledge Sev says he has, his common sense is out the *** window.

I give up it's like arguing with a wall.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-10-30 06:24:19
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Phoenix.Gimmeurselables said:
I don't care how much book knowledge Sev says he has, his common sense is out the *** window.

which is when i tried to apply my knowledge i got no results at all
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