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By Ragnarok.Corres 2013-07-12 14:07:21
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New wonder drug matches and kills all kinds of cancer — human testing starts 2014

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Stanford researchers are on track to begin human trials of a potentially potent new weapon against cancer, and would-be participants are flooding in following the Post’s initial report on the discovery.

The progress comes just two months after the groundbreaking study by Dr Irv Weissman, who developed an antibody that breaks down a cancer's defense mechanisms in the body.

A protein called CD47 tells the body not to "eat" the cancer, but the antibody developed by Dr Weissman blocks CD47 and frees up immune cells called macrophages — which can then engulf the deadly cells.


The new research shows the miraculous macrophages effectively act as intelligence gatherers for the body, pointing out cancerous cells to cancer-fighting "killer T" cells.

The T cells then "learn" to hunt down and attack the cancer, the researchers claim.

“It was completely unexpected that CD8+ T (killer T) cells would be mobilized when macrophages engulfed the cancer cells in the presence of CD47-blocking antibodies,” said MD/PhD student Diane Tseng, who works with Dr. Weissman.

The clinical implications of the process could be profound in the war on cancer.

When macrophages present "killer T" cells with a patient's cancer, the T cells become attuned to the unique molecular markers on the cancer.

This turns them into a personalized cancer vaccine.

“Because T cells are sensitized to attack a patient’s particular cancer, the administration of CD47-blocking antibodies in a sense could act as a personalized vaccination against that cancer,” Tseng said.

The team of researchers at Stanford plan on starting a small 10-100 person phase I clinical human trial of the cancer therapy in 2014.

What are your opinions about that?

My Grandfather died because of Cancer, that was however i even got to know him. My Partner in life had Breast Cancer.
Luckily it wasn't too late to save her very breast. A not close Aunt to me, died of Cancer last year.

If it works let us hope that it doesn't cost about 100k Wild-onions.
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By volkom 2013-07-12 14:10:16
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Reminds me of will smith's "I am legend"
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-12 14:14:57
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volkom said: »
Reminds me of will smith's "I am legend"
Exactly what i thought too lol. "This is how the Zombie Apocolypse begins!" [not that I Am Legend is a zombie movie...cause its not...]

My grandmother whom i was very close to got Breast cancer, survived it, and then got rectal/colon cancer and died. Very devastating things but atleast now i hope other people will now get the chance to have this ailment cured.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-07-12 14:27:23
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If this is accurate, *** great.

I've watched far too many people die of cancer.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2013-07-12 14:29:43
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I'm no scientist or anything, but it's always baffled me how in all the man-made zombie-type apocalypse movies, the scientists are unaware of these symptoms before it's too late. Highly doubt it's something that would be an issue in real life.

Although the thought of someone creating a cure that leads to an apocalypse of the like does mildly worry a few people I know.
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By Ragnarok.Zohnax 2013-07-12 14:31:17
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I remember hearing about this within the last year, and joking at the name of course, but it's exciting to see it gaining speed and ground. HIV, cancer... what's next to be cured? <_<
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2013-07-12 14:33:53
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Although the thought of someone creating a cure that leads to an apocalypse of the like does mildly worry a few people I know.
in real life? I could understand that for many people on the internet.
I think it was back when they finished building the large hadron collider and many people were worried if it would create a black hole.

If it comes to an Apocalypse that would suck.

"hey guys we cured cancer"
"good job, now cure the zombie/infected desease please"
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2013-07-12 14:35:48
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Obesity needs a cure !

Start by closing down terrible fast-food restaurants like McDonalds.

Then, idk, create some drug that eats fat, or something.
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2013-07-12 14:39:24
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Obesity needs a cure !

Start by closing down terrible fast-food restaurants like McDonalds.

Then, idk, create some drug that eats fat, or something.
I do not live in the US so i only know what i read about some time ago.
Apparently healthy food is quite a lot higher in price than let's say a cheeseburger. If that is true then you would have a huge impact when you close them down. Or even force them so sell healthier food for the exact same price.
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By Blazed1979 2013-07-12 14:41:20
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my response is best described as measured enthusiasm.
I've heard and read of so many breaking news "miracle cancer cures" and none seem to be on the market or being used as treatment yet.

I have a personal fear of cancer ever since my great grandfather died when I was 10. I saw him go from a 220 pound healthy 85 year old, capable of taking hikes to a 90 pound zombie in the hospital in 1 year.

I hope it turns out to be true and works, and hits the mainstream ASAP.
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-07-12 14:44:18
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Obesity needs a cure !

Start by closing down terrible fast-food restaurants like McDonalds.

Then, idk, create some drug that eats fat, or something.

But then The US won't be the fattest country in the world anymore!! That's like the only statistic we still lead the world in today.
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By Siren.Mosin 2013-07-12 14:46:17
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I hate to tell you guys, but something will kill you either way.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2013-07-12 14:48:34
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Siren.Knivesz said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Obesity needs a cure ! Start by closing down terrible fast-food restaurants like McDonalds. Then, idk, create some drug that eats fat, or something.
But then The US won't be the fattest country in the world anymore!! That's like the only statistic we still lead the world in today.

We're already not the fattest country in the world. We dropped to #2 recently. Mexico took over.
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By Ragnarok.Zohnax 2013-07-12 14:48:34
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Ragnarok.Corres said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Obesity needs a cure !

Start by closing down terrible fast-food restaurants like McDonalds.

Then, idk, create some drug that eats fat, or something.
I do not live in the US so i only know what i read about some time ago.
Apparently healthy food is quite a lot higher in price than let's say a cheeseburger. If that is true then you would have a huge impact when you close them down. Or even force them so sell healthier food for the exact same price.
This is precisely true. Most things actually good for you would cost your average family a good portion of their household income, depending on the size and income of the family of course. But then you have like, 99cent tacos or Dollar Menu foods from McDonald's which is instant, no one has to cook or take time out and it's cheap. Quite frankly, the only way people are going to get over obesity is when they start to realize just how detrimental to their health being overweight is, along with how bad over half of the garbage they're eating is. All those preservatives and additives aren't good for you and neither is anything that tricks your body into thinking it's getting something it's not and vice-versa.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-07-12 14:48:38
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Ragnarok.Zohnax said: »
I remember hearing about this within the last year, and joking at the name of course, but it's exciting to see it gaining speed and ground. HIV, cancer... what's next to be cured? <_<
There is always something left to cure, unfortunately.

I'm not hoping for such scenario but I wouldn't surprised if a new thing appeared in the next century.

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Ragnarok.Corres said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Obesity needs a cure !

Start by closing down terrible fast-food restaurants like McDonalds.

Then, idk, create some drug that eats fat, or something.
I do not live in the US so i only know what i read about some time ago.
Apparently healthy food is quite a lot higher in price than let's say a cheeseburger. If that is true then you would have a huge impact when you close them down. Or even force them so sell healthier food for the exact same price.
This is precisely true. Most things actually good for you would cost your average family a good portion of their household income, depending on the size and income of the family of course. But then you have like, 99cent tacos or Dollar Menu foods from McDonald's which is instant, no one has to cook or take time out and it's cheap. Quite frankly, the only way people are going to get over obesity is when they start to realize just how detrimental to their health being overweight is, along with how bad over half of the garbage they're eating is. All those preservatives and additives aren't good for you and neither is anything that tricks your body into thinking it's getting something it's not and vice-versa.
I know that if I want to eat properly, in London, I'm looking to spend at the very least 8£ for a complete day (breakfast, lunch, dinner).

I can drop this to 5£ if I buy the food and cook it myself, but UK is so bad when it comes to food that the quality becomes an issue when you do that.

In France you're looking to spend 5€ per day on much healthier food. It's really a matter of country imo, rather than pure price.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-07-12 14:50:17
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Obesity needs a cure !

Start by closing down terrible fast-food restaurants like McDonalds.

Then, idk, create some drug that eats fat, or something.

No people just need to stop being lazy ***. You can overeat and be thin/healthy if you actually exercise or do reasonable amounts of activity. I exercise so that I can enjoy my food and still look and feel good. Obesity getting labeled a disease just gave people, that already had a million excuses, a million and one excuses.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-07-12 14:50:35
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mexico is the fattest country in the world atm

derp, beaten
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-07-12 14:53:13
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Siren.Knivesz said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Obesity needs a cure ! Start by closing down terrible fast-food restaurants like McDonalds. Then, idk, create some drug that eats fat, or something.
But then The US won't be the fattest country in the world anymore!! That's like the only statistic we still lead the world in today.

We're already not the fattest country in the world. We dropped to #2 recently. Mexico took over.

Damn, there goes our claim to fame.
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By Lakshmi.Ryanx 2013-07-12 14:56:45
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If this does cure cancer this will never reach the people the medical systems make a fortune with kemo and radiation and so sergery's. there has been natrual cures for cancer for a long time but they do not want you to know about it because they can not make money
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By Asura.Melbufrauma 2013-07-12 14:56:52
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Incoming T-virus
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By Lakshmi.Ryanx 2013-07-12 14:57:36
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do your research I no longer trust medical system
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2013-07-12 14:58:36
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
Obesity needs a cure ! Start by closing down terrible fast-food restaurants like McDonalds. Then, idk, create some drug that eats fat, or something.
No people just need to stop being lazy ***. You can overeat and be thin/healthy if you actually exercise or do reasonable amounts of activity. I exercise so that I can enjoy my food and still look and feel good. Obesity getting labeled a disease just gave people, that already had a million excuses, a million and one excuses.

This is ignorant.

Everyone's metabolism is different, not to mention countless other factors.

I exercise daily and eat well within FDA-reccomended guidelines. I manage to not gain weight. But any weight I manage to lose is observable only through weight measurement.

I know people who eat entire 12-pizzas on a regular basis for a single meal, exercise minimally, if at all, and do not gain weight. Maintain muscle tone, even. (Edit: And also have the pure balls to *** to me that they can't gain weight.)

It's true that losing weight is a possibility for anyone who is overweight. But the amount of work put in varies drastically from person to person, and even between genders. (Men lose weight more easily than women, in general.)

Sometimes the amount of work and sacrifice required is extremely daunting.
 
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-07-12 15:12:32
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The questions I have is, this about the anti-CD47 antibody that you'd give the patients. That signal given by CD47 must exist for something else too. It's likely not just many cancerous cell's shields from the body's immune system but probably has other interactions that may be important, so by blocking it are we allowing our immune system to attack other things in the body or perhaps blocking certain interactions?
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2013-07-12 15:14:53
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
The questions I have is, this about the anti-CD47 antibody that you'd give the patients. That signal given by CD47 must exist for something else too. It's likely not just many cancerous cell's shields from the body's immune system but probably has other interactions that may be important, so by blocking it are we allowing our immune system to attack other things in the body or perhaps blocking certain interactions?

Research and test groups would be important, obviously. Being able to gauge precisely how it works (if it really does work!) and side-effects are crucial. But I'll tell you this...when it comes to the immune system, I'll taking living with an auto-immune disorder over dying from cancer. The former is unpleasant...but you only get one life.
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By Enuyasha 2013-07-12 15:15:45
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
The questions I have is, this about the anti-CD47 antibody that you'd give the patients. That signal given by CD47 must exist for something else too. It's likely not just many cancerous cell's shields from the body's immune system but probably has other interactions that may be important, so by blocking it are we allowing our immune system to attack other things in the body or perhaps blocking certain interactions?
Which will cause the Zombie Apocotaco.
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2013-07-12 15:21:43
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Enuyasha said: »
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
The questions I have is, this about the anti-CD47 antibody that you'd give the patients. That signal given by CD47 must exist for something else too. It's likely not just many cancerous cell's shields from the body's immune system but probably has other interactions that may be important, so by blocking it are we allowing our immune system to attack other things in the body or perhaps blocking certain interactions?
Which will cause the Zombie Apocotaco.

"Apocotaco?"

...sounds like something that could potentially be tasty, if not entirely heart-healthy.
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By Blazed1979 2013-07-12 15:28:54
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Bismarck.Ramyrez said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
The questions I have is, this about the anti-CD47 antibody that you'd give the patients. That signal given by CD47 must exist for something else too. It's likely not just many cancerous cell's shields from the body's immune system but probably has other interactions that may be important, so by blocking it are we allowing our immune system to attack other things in the body or perhaps blocking certain interactions?
Which will cause the Zombie Apocotaco.

"Apocotaco?"

...sounds like something that could potentially be tasty, if not entirely heart-healthy.

I've lived through several "Apocotaco" and survived. Its called the Taco-Bell drive through.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2013-07-12 15:30:24
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"I have the cure for cancer BUT... I need 2 million people to test the drug to see if it works."

This is all I got from it.
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By Gimp 2013-07-12 15:30:43
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I haven't been affected by cancer as much as other people in their own lives so I could be biased...but I'm leery(always have been) of magic bullets.

I think it's great they made a special antibody(how and out of what?) to be administered to the body(that won't get eaten by it) to then tell the white blood cells distinguish the cancer cells to be able to eat them(and hopefully not the cancer free cells in the process).

Lacking obviously in the knowledge of science for this area, it's just something we won't know until it's tried and tested because of the factor of the human body and know the consequences a few months to a decade and a half later...


Is the antibody like normal medicine that has it's own side effects in exchange for the effect that we hope to achieve or is it something more dangerous that can cause more harm than good in the process?
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